So Irvin Kershner> George Lucas > Richard Marquand
oh please... even Marquand had to have given better direction than:
"ok... the green screen behind you has a big monster on it... we'll put that in later... and theres lasers being shot at you... we'll put those in later too... and... ACTION!"
So Irvin Kershner> George Lucas > Richard Marquand
Hehe. The three prequels sully Lucas' name so much... but Episode 4, and the Indy films redeem him. But I do like Jedi far more than any of the prequels, Ewoks and all. Yub yub!
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oh please... even Marquand had to have given better direction than:
"ok... the green screen behind you has a big monster on it... we'll put that in later... and theres lasers being shot at you... we'll put those in later too... and... ACTION!"
Yeah, his dialogue is pretty terrible. Just the whole ewok thing.....kinda killed it for me.....the Darth Vader/Luke battle with the Emperor was the only good thing about the end of that movie....the Lando-death star sequence should have been better and the worst part was the endor scenes after Luke left.....
Hehe. The three prequels sully Lucas' name so much... but Episode 4, and the Indy films redeem him. But I do like Jedi far more than any of the prequels, Ewoks and all. Yub yub!
Yeah, I guess I do like Jedi more than I and II.
My rating goes like this:
1. Empire
2. New Hope
3. Revenge of the Sith (Even with the terrible dialogue)
4. Jedi
5. Clones
6. Phantom Menace
Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith can switch rankings from time to time.
And Ill say this.....the Darth Maul-Obi Wan-Qui-gon scene is underrated.
1. Empire
2. New Hope
3. Revenge of the Sith (Even with the terrible dialogue)
4. Jedi
5. Clones
6. Phantom Menace
Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith can switch rankings from time to time.
And Ill say this.....the Darth Maul-Obi Wan-Qui-gon scene is underrated.
All the prequels had their moments, for sure. I, for one, love the opening sequence of Clones - up until Jango shoots that other bounty hunter. But Empire, as you said, is the pinnacle of the series. Just stone-cold classic all over.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
All the prequels had their moments, for sure. I, for one, love the opening sequence of Clones - up until Jango shoots that other bounty hunter. But Empire, as you said, is the pinnacle of the series. Just stone-cold classic all over.
Yeah, I like the opening of that movie....I like the other Jango stuff toward the end, too.
Hehe. The three prequels sully Lucas' name so much... but Episode 4, and the Indy films redeem him. But I do like Jedi far more than any of the prequels, Ewoks and all. Yub yub!
Spielberg directed the Indy films. Lucas was just the co-creator.
Pretty much the only good movie Lucas ever directed was A New Hope...
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Spielberg directed the Indy films. Lucas was just the co-creator.
Pretty much the only good movie Lucas ever directed was A New Hope...
you underestimate lucas's talent and influence when you pass him off merely as a co creator. spielberg did defer to lucas on more than one occasion and has admitted that it was the right thing to do.
perhaps lucas's strength is not directing, or dialogue for that matter, but behind the scenes his worth can never be devalued or underestimated. sometimes editting can make or break a movie, let alone a particular scene.
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you underestimate lucas's talent and influence when you pass him off merely as a co creator. spielberg did defer to lucas on more than one occasion and has admitted that it was the right thing to do.
perhaps lucas's strength is not directing, or dialogue for that matter, but behind the scenes his worth can never be devalued or underestimated. sometimes editting can make or break a movie, let alone a particular scene.
Exactly - he had help with the dialogue in Episode 4, but he also created the franchise, directed the movie, had enough sense to realise Episode 4 was the most marketable, and so on. Irvin Kershner and Lawrence Kasdan may have created a classic with Empire, but it was George's universe they were playing in.
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Exactly - he had help with the dialogue in Episode 4, but he also created the franchise, directed the movie, had enough sense to realise Episode 4 was the most marketable, and so on. Irvin Kershner and Lawrence Kasdan may have created a classic with Empire, but it was George's universe they were playing in.
he had help with the dialogue in ep4? yikes! oh i guess it wasnt that bad and besides i was only 12 at the time. looks as if luke got his whining gene from his da. have to admit though, my favourite george lucas film wasn't directed by him.
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he had help with the dialogue in ep4? yikes! oh i guess it wasnt that bad and besides i was only 12 at the time. looks as if luke got his whining gene from his da. have to admit though, my favourite george lucas film wasn't directed by him.
Yeah, I remember reading that after Harrison Ford said "You can type this shit, George, but you sure as hell can't say it!", George called in some help.:p That scene on the Death Star where Luke's trying to convince Han to help rescue Leia wasn't George's writing at all. (Far too natural.:D)
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Yeah, I remember reading that after Harrison Ford said "You can type this shit, George, but you sure as hell can't say it!", George called in some help.:p That scene on the Death Star where Luke's trying to convince Han to help rescue Leia wasn't George's writing at all. (Far too natural.:D)
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man he should have called me in during revenge of the jedi cause i pull muscles cringing at some of the shite having to be spoken in that one.
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You just know if George had written that scene, it'd be:
INT. Death Star
Han: No, Luke. I refuse to help you rescue said princess. I do this because I am selfish and out for personal gain only.
Luke: But Han, you must help me save her! Have you no conscience? Did your mother not teach you right from wrong?
Han: My mother was a darling woman.
Luke: I never knew my mother. Or my father.
Han: Think that's of some galactic significance?
Luke: *looks wistful*
C3PO:agitated master luke you must come... its the princess
han rolls his eyes. luke glances at han and shakes his head. he turns his attention to the droid.
luke: the princess! luke looks at han who is mostly ignoring them. what is it? where is she? is she okay C3PO?
C3PO: im sorry master i can't help but notice something appears to be wrong
luke: oh its just han. he refuses to help save the princess.
C3PO: i dont quite understand humans master luke.
luke: C3PO! the princess??
C3PO: oh yes yes master luke i forgot....
han: who was listening cause afterall luke and the droid were talking about him. i have no conscience except that which can be bought. He claps his hand on luke's shoulder how much you got kid?
han grins and luke cant help but smile.
luke: i knew you'd help.
han: whatever. just dont get cocky on me. (oh yes i know i just ripped off lucas)
C3PO shuffles away followed by han and luke.
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C3PO:agitated master luke you must come... its the princess
han rolls his eyes. luke glances at han and shakes his head. he turns his attention to the droid.
luke: the princess! luke looks at han who is mostly ignoring them. what is it? where is she? is she okay C3PO?
C3PO: im sorry master i can't help but notice something appears to be wrong
luke: oh its just han. he refuses to help save the princess.
C3PO: i dont quite understand humans master luke.
luke: C3PO! the princess??
C3PO: oh yes yes master luke i forgot....
han: who was listening cause afterall luke and the droid were talking about him. i have no conscience except that which can be bought. He claps his hand on luke's shoulder how much you got kid?
han grins and luke cant help but smile.
luke: i knew you'd help.
han: whatever. just dont get cocky on me. (oh yes i know i just ripped off lucas)
C3PO shuffles away followed by han and luke.
And yet all of what we just wrote is eminently better than anything in the Phantom Menace.
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You just know if George had written that scene, it'd be:
INT. Death Star
Han: No, Luke. I refuse to help you rescue said princess. I do this because I am selfish and out for personal gain only.
Luke: But Han, you must help me save her! Have you no conscience? Did your mother not teach you right from wrong?
Han: My mother was a darling woman.
Luke: I never knew my mother. Or my father.
Han: Think that's of some galactic significance?
Luke: *looks wistful*
Ha Ha!
Well done, well done.
I worked as a manager of a movie theatre when ep. I came out and we had a midnight showing in which I whipped up the crowd and was equally excited to watch along with them. After the show, I just sat in my seat, looking like an ewok who just discovered his mother was shot by a passing AT-ST. I couldn't bear to watch everyone shuffle out in silence. Now, I know Lucas isn't the best at dialogue or directing, but I had no idea he was so out of touch with reality. The prequels were AWFUL. Even ep. III. I was hoping to get a really deep, spiritual quest for Annakin based on J. Campbell's work like A New Hope was. I felt like Lucas was not only writing FOR his kids, he was writing AS his kids. When I was a kid watching the originals in the theatre, I understood all the complexity and nuance, as simple as it was. Why did the prequels have to be so devoid of context or subtlety? I can only think Lucas' ego got in the way.
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ps-Obi Wan is the best. I think his story could have been told with much more gravitas in the prequels.
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And yet all of what we just wrote is eminently better than anything in the Phantom Menace.
yeah but phantom menace started up that whole argument about whether one could or could not stab someone to death with a light sabre. star wars geeks! hilarious!!!
oh and the homage to ben hur wasnt too shabby either.
oh and did i mention liam neeson was in phantom?
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yeah but phantom menace started up that whole argument about whether one could or could not stab someone to death with a light sabre. star wars geeks! hilarious!!!
oh and the homage to ben hur wasnt too shabby either.
oh and did i mention liam neeson was in phantom?
Yes - the movie was almost worth it for the Star Wars geeks' reactions.
Liam Neeson... A grand fellow countryman.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
Yes - the movie was almost worth it for the Star Wars geeks' reactions.
Liam Neeson... A grand fellow countryman.
when i saw phantom menace these what i assumed to be SW geeks behind me said as the credits rolled, "they didnt tell us who played darth sidious'
i couldnt help but laugh. i felt like turning around and saying, "do you really want to know? might spoil what is obviously gonna be a huge surprise for you two later on though."
come to think of it they cant have been SW geeks if they had no clue who played darth sidious. or who even darth sidious was.
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The only Star Wars movie NOT directed by George Lucas = The Empire Strikes Back.
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Return of the Jedi wasn't directed by him either. Twas directed by Richard Marquand.
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So Irvin Kershner> George Lucas > Richard Marquand
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Hehe.
Yeah, his dialogue is pretty terrible. Just the whole ewok thing.....kinda killed it for me.....the Darth Vader/Luke battle with the Emperor was the only good thing about the end of that movie....the Lando-death star sequence should have been better and the worst part was the endor scenes after Luke left.....
Yeah, I guess I do like Jedi more than I and II.
My rating goes like this:
1. Empire
2. New Hope
3. Revenge of the Sith (Even with the terrible dialogue)
4. Jedi
5. Clones
6. Phantom Menace
Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith can switch rankings from time to time.
And Ill say this.....the Darth Maul-Obi Wan-Qui-gon scene is underrated.
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...nor do I want to.
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All the prequels had their moments, for sure. I, for one, love the opening sequence of Clones - up until Jango shoots that other bounty hunter. But Empire, as you said, is the pinnacle of the series. Just stone-cold classic all over.
Dont forget, there will be a live action TV series, much like the Terminator-Sarah Connor Chronicles.
And that has led to 3 more terminator movies with Christian Bale as john Connor, so you never know.
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Yeah, I like the opening of that movie....I like the other Jango stuff toward the end, too.
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Spielberg directed the Indy films. Lucas was just the co-creator.
Pretty much the only good movie Lucas ever directed was A New Hope...
Oh, I know - Indy was named after George's dog and all that. I'm a nerd, guy!
But you have to give him credit for the stories he gave to the world - he really brought back a great sense of innocent adventure to the cinema.
you underestimate lucas's talent and influence when you pass him off merely as a co creator. spielberg did defer to lucas on more than one occasion and has admitted that it was the right thing to do.
perhaps lucas's strength is not directing, or dialogue for that matter, but behind the scenes his worth can never be devalued or underestimated. sometimes editting can make or break a movie, let alone a particular scene.
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Exactly - he had help with the dialogue in Episode 4, but he also created the franchise, directed the movie, had enough sense to realise Episode 4 was the most marketable, and so on. Irvin Kershner and Lawrence Kasdan may have created a classic with Empire, but it was George's universe they were playing in.
he had help with the dialogue in ep4? yikes! oh i guess it wasnt that bad and besides i was only 12 at the time. looks as if luke got his whining gene from his da.
take a good look
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Yeah, I remember reading that after Harrison Ford said "You can type this shit, George, but you sure as hell can't say it!", George called in some help.:p That scene on the Death Star where Luke's trying to convince Han to help rescue Leia wasn't George's writing at all. (Far too natural.:D)
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man he should have called me in during revenge of the jedi cause i pull muscles cringing at some of the shite having to be spoken in that one.
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You just know if George had written that scene, it'd be:
INT. Death Star
Han: No, Luke. I refuse to help you rescue said princess. I do this because I am selfish and out for personal gain only.
Luke: But Han, you must help me save her! Have you no conscience? Did your mother not teach you right from wrong?
Han: My mother was a darling woman.
Luke: I never knew my mother. Or my father.
Han: Think that's of some galactic significance?
Luke: *looks wistful*
C3PO:agitated master luke you must come... its the princess
han rolls his eyes. luke glances at han and shakes his head. he turns his attention to the droid.
luke: the princess! luke looks at han who is mostly ignoring them. what is it? where is she? is she okay C3PO?
C3PO: im sorry master i can't help but notice something appears to be wrong
luke: oh its just han. he refuses to help save the princess.
C3PO: i dont quite understand humans master luke.
luke: C3PO! the princess??
C3PO: oh yes yes master luke i forgot....
han: who was listening cause afterall luke and the droid were talking about him. i have no conscience except that which can be bought. He claps his hand on luke's shoulder how much you got kid?
han grins and luke cant help but smile.
luke: i knew you'd help.
han: whatever. just dont get cocky on me. (oh yes i know i just ripped off lucas)
C3PO shuffles away followed by han and luke.
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And yet all of what we just wrote is eminently better than anything in the Phantom Menace.
Ha Ha!
Well done, well done.
I worked as a manager of a movie theatre when ep. I came out and we had a midnight showing in which I whipped up the crowd and was equally excited to watch along with them. After the show, I just sat in my seat, looking like an ewok who just discovered his mother was shot by a passing AT-ST. I couldn't bear to watch everyone shuffle out in silence. Now, I know Lucas isn't the best at dialogue or directing, but I had no idea he was so out of touch with reality. The prequels were AWFUL. Even ep. III. I was hoping to get a really deep, spiritual quest for Annakin based on J. Campbell's work like A New Hope was. I felt like Lucas was not only writing FOR his kids, he was writing AS his kids. When I was a kid watching the originals in the theatre, I understood all the complexity and nuance, as simple as it was. Why did the prequels have to be so devoid of context or subtlety? I can only think Lucas' ego got in the way.
ok.
ps-Obi Wan is the best. I think his story could have been told with much more gravitas in the prequels.
Trading stories with the leaves instead
yeah but phantom menace started up that whole argument about whether one could or could not stab someone to death with a light sabre. star wars geeks! hilarious!!!
oh and the homage to ben hur wasnt too shabby either.
oh and did i mention liam neeson was in phantom?
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Yes - the movie was almost worth it for the Star Wars geeks' reactions.
Liam Neeson... A grand fellow countryman.
when i saw phantom menace these what i assumed to be SW geeks behind me said as the credits rolled, "they didnt tell us who played darth sidious'
i couldnt help but laugh. i felt like turning around and saying, "do you really want to know? might spoil what is obviously gonna be a huge surprise for you two later on though."
come to think of it they cant have been SW geeks if they had no clue who played darth sidious. or who even darth sidious was.
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thats what ive been saying.
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it sure as hell better not interfer or slow down more batman movies!!!
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OMG LMFAO!!! talk about my subconscious working overtime.
and hey!! that's geek not nerd. thank you very much
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