I'd like to see another Star Wars trilogy as long as Lucas hands the task of directing over to somebody else like Peter Jackson or Josh Whedon.. Preferably a younger talent.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the prequels, but the were only good and not great.
and while he's at it, get someone to help him with dialogue. i know lucas says he wrote star wars for 12 year old boys but those 12 year old boys(and girls) grew up and we expected something on a par with the original trilogy. i think lucas's strength is editing not directing.
i also think perhaps in the same way the original trilogy showed the two sides(vader/luke), eps 1-3(primarily ep3/maybe ep2) should have shown the sacrifices obi-wan made against the sacrifices anakin DIDN'T make. just for balance, you understand?
yes yes i think too much about this stuff. but this is my childhood lucas is screwing with.
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1) why did they have to make all the characters look like puppets? i know they have the means to make em more realistic looking... wouldve preferred something more like the final fantasy films
I agree, more life-like would be nice, but I enjoyed the earlier Clone Wars animations too..
2) why couldnt they have explored a time span that people actually care about? more general grievous? who cares? go after episode VI or before episode 1 or something new...
Uhm.. I actually wouldn't mind more story between II and III.. Grievous not really, but the Obi Wan / Anakin story more or less hangs on "he's holding me back" in III which is kinda lame.
jesus... never heard about that til now... lucas has completely lost touch with what makes a good movie... just like jerry bruckheimer and jj abrams... all tools...
SNL did a skit about it pretty funny. I tried to find it on youtube, but no luck. I think it was Josh Hartnett hosting, and it was him and four other guys dancing with light sabers.
Was he though? I think we can all agree that Christenson did a poor job with much of the acting, but he also had some terrible lines to work with. "My heart is beating... hoping that kiss will not become a scar." But how do you define Anakin as weak-minded? He was clearly a skilled Jedi but because he started his training so late in life he had attachments to other people: his mother, his home, Padme, etc. He was emotional, and it was his downfall. We saw a lot of this in Luke as well. It's part of the story arc. You can look at the entire 6-movie series as The Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker and it works pretty well. At least until Jar-Jar and the stupid new CGI scenes in Ep IV get in the way.
Really underrated in the Star Wars universe. He deserves his own series.
To go along with what the poster said about sacrifices, in the expanded Star Wars universe Obi Wan gave up a love interest due to dedication to his Jedi principles, unlike Anakin.
Really underrated in the Star Wars universe. He deserves his own series.
To go along with what the poster said about sacrifices, in the expanded Star Wars universe Obi Wan gave up a love interest due to dedication to his Jedi principles, unlike Anakin.
The Xbox game centering on Obi Wan had a great ending
And yeah, very underrated. Thanks for the legs, Darth.
Really underrated in the Star Wars universe. He deserves his own series.
To go along with what the poster said about sacrifices, in the expanded Star Wars universe Obi Wan gave up a love interest due to dedication to his Jedi principles, unlike Anakin.
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i have this whole back story written for obi wan about sacrifice... cause... yes... i'm a star wars geek. all george had to do was ask and i'd have given it to him. i mean shit he was filming less than an hour from my joint. :rolleyes:
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I know im late on this one, but I felt the need to express my annoyance with the new movies.
You know I was watching the old star wars again recently, and the way they used models for the star destroyers and other star fighters looked SOOO much more real. Why the hell would they want to use CGI for them when it looks so obvious that its computer generated.
And yea I was very annoyed with the way they made yoda say everything bassackwards. He never said anything that way in the old one. And they shouldnt have used CGI on him the whole movie. Sure they cant make a puppet have a lightsaber battle and make it look real. But dont make him animated through the whole movie, even when hes just sitting in a chair the whole scene.
I know im late on this one, but I felt the need to express my annoyance with the new movies.
You know I was watching the old star wars again recently, and the way they used models for the star destroyers and other star fighters looked SOOO much more real. Why the hell would they want to use CGI for them when it looks so obvious that its computer generated.
And yea I was very annoyed with the way they made yoda say everything bassackwards. He never said anything that way in the old one. And they shouldnt have used CGI on him the whole movie. Sure they cant make a puppet have a lightsaber battle and make it look real. But dont make him animated through the whole movie, even when hes just sitting in a chair the whole scene.
Vent over.
No arguments, really.
Yoda talked backwards a fair bit in the old movies too, though.
People constantly rag on Episodes I-III but I loved them. To me Lucas can do no wrong. American Graffiti was great and so were all 6 Star Wars films. Maybe he made a misstep with Jar Jar but overall I don’t think I-III were all that bad.
I never saw the prequels until I watched Revenge of the Sith on TV the other night. I thought it was awful. I gutted it out because I was curious to see how he became Darth Vader. and it's not really the bad script or overuse of visual effects that hurts it. it was the acting. the guy who played young Anakin was TERRIBLE (especially in scenes where he has to raise his voice) and Natalie Portman was equally as bad.
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Loved the original trilogy. Yeah, I was a kid back then, but they obviously had a certain magic and chemistry that nothing before had, at the time or ever.
When I came out, I was so excited. I was put off by the technology thing, and I was put off by the CGI. I liked the models from before. They looked more real to me. And JarJar. Wow, enough said. Horrible, just horrible.
I actually own the DVD to I because I wanted to give it another chance. It is telling to watch the making of and the other documentaries that come with it. Lucas at one point (I shit you not) says something to the effect of "JarJar is the key to Episode I. If he comes across believeble, it works; if he doesn't, it doesn't work." That documentary was made before the movie was released, and JarJar obviously did not work.
Also, in teh various documentaries, what becomes apparent is that Lucas was obsessed with the new technology and making the movies look better than they did. I believe he dropped the ball because what made the first three movies so special was the story. He should have focused more on the way the story unfolded. It could have been so much better.
And don't even get me started on the little gag lines they threw in for C3PO. "I am beside myself." Ugh.
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I actually own the DVD to I because I wanted to give it another chance. It is telling to watch the making of and the other documentaries that come with it. Lucas at one point (I shit you not) says something to the effect of "JarJar is the key to Episode I. If he comes across believeble, it works; if he doesn't, it doesn't work." That documentary was made before the movie was released, and JarJar obviously did not work.
It did work, kids loved Jar Jar and he looked pretty "real" on screen. What didn't work was all of the humor associated with the character (at least for adults).
It did work, kids loved Jar Jar and he looked pretty "real" on screen. What didn't work was all of the humor associated with the character (at least for adults).
the Gungans suck in general... Boss Nass... LAME
and Jar Jar promoted to the senate?? give me a break!
I never saw the prequels until I watched Revenge of the Sith on TV the other night. I thought it was awful. I gutted it out because I was curious to see how he became Darth Vader. and it's not really the bad script or overuse of visual effects that hurts it. it was the acting. the guy who played young Anakin was TERRIBLE (especially in scenes where he has to raise his voice) and Natalie Portman was equally as bad.
he's holding me back..wah wah wah cry me a river sooky boy.
as ive said before, if i was amidala i would have felt a strong desire to slap anakin until he woke up to himself.
just like all bullies, vader was covering up insecurities and his own low self esteem from his childhood and supposed growing up(which i dont think he ever did) to seek revenge on the entire universe. but did so at another bidding. revenge for what? oh i dont know maybe for not being taken as seriously as he felt he should be. for not garnering the respect he felt was due him. for being told sacrifice is needed if one is to become a great person.
the only thing i applaud vader for is saving luke's life and hoiking the emperor into that abyss.
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he's holding me back..wah wah wah cry me a river sooky boy.
as ive said before, if i was amidala i would have felt a strong desire to slap anakin until he woke up to himself.
just like all bullies, vader was covering up insecurities and his own low self esteem from his childhood and supposed growing up(which i dont think he ever did) to seek revenge on the entire universe. but did so at another bidding. revenge for what? oh i dont know maybe for not being taken as seriously as he felt he should be. for not garnering the respect he felt was due him. for being told sacrifice is needed if one is to become a great person.
the only thing i applaud vader for is saving luke's life and hoiking the emperor into that abyss.
Come on, his voice was pretty bad ass too.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
he's holding me back..wah wah wah cry me a river sooky boy.
as ive said before, if i was amidala i would have felt a strong desire to slap anakin until he woke up to himself.
just like all bullies, vader was covering up insecurities and his own low self esteem from his childhood and supposed growing up(which i dont think he ever did) to seek revenge on the entire universe. but did so at another bidding. revenge for what? oh i dont know maybe for not being taken as seriously as he felt he should be. for not garnering the respect he felt was due him. for being told sacrifice is needed if one is to become a great person.
the only thing i applaud vader for is saving luke's life and hoiking the emperor into that abyss.
To be fair, if you grew up in slavery it might mess with your self esteem. I also think it's overly simplistic to call Vader a bully. He was manipulated by Palpatine from the moment they met.
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To be fair, if you grew up in slavery it might mess with your self esteem. I also think it's overly simplistic to call Vader a bully. He was manipulated by Palpatine from the moment they met.
so okay then skywalker is weak and chose to take the easy path. even when he was warned against it constantly by people who knew better than he did th consequences of his actions. palpatine played on his insecurities and ego.
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and while he's at it, get someone to help him with dialogue. i know lucas says he wrote star wars for 12 year old boys but those 12 year old boys(and girls) grew up and we expected something on a par with the original trilogy. i think lucas's strength is editing not directing.
i also think perhaps in the same way the original trilogy showed the two sides(vader/luke), eps 1-3(primarily ep3/maybe ep2) should have shown the sacrifices obi-wan made against the sacrifices anakin DIDN'T make. just for balance, you understand?
yes yes i think too much about this stuff. but this is my childhood lucas is screwing with.
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SNL did a skit about it pretty funny. I tried to find it on youtube, but no luck. I think it was Josh Hartnett hosting, and it was him and four other guys dancing with light sabers.
Good to see you around, Doc. It's been a while.
Really underrated in the Star Wars universe. He deserves his own series.
To go along with what the poster said about sacrifices, in the expanded Star Wars universe Obi Wan gave up a love interest due to dedication to his Jedi principles, unlike Anakin.
And yeah, very underrated. Thanks for the legs, Darth.
thanks for the info.
i have this whole back story written for obi wan about sacrifice... cause... yes... i'm a star wars geek. all george had to do was ask and i'd have given it to him. i mean shit he was filming less than an hour from my joint. :rolleyes:
take a good look
this could be the day
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i just need to say
You know I was watching the old star wars again recently, and the way they used models for the star destroyers and other star fighters looked SOOO much more real. Why the hell would they want to use CGI for them when it looks so obvious that its computer generated.
And yea I was very annoyed with the way they made yoda say everything bassackwards. He never said anything that way in the old one. And they shouldnt have used CGI on him the whole movie. Sure they cant make a puppet have a lightsaber battle and make it look real. But dont make him animated through the whole movie, even when hes just sitting in a chair the whole scene.
Vent over.
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Yoda talked backwards a fair bit in the old movies too, though.
Im gona keep going on for a second here
Dont you hate how clumsy they made Obi wan in the new ones?
"Its a secret to everybody."
"Its a secret to everybody."
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I never saw the prequels until I watched Revenge of the Sith on TV the other night. I thought it was awful. I gutted it out because I was curious to see how he became Darth Vader. and it's not really the bad script or overuse of visual effects that hurts it. it was the acting. the guy who played young Anakin was TERRIBLE (especially in scenes where he has to raise his voice) and Natalie Portman was equally as bad.
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Loved the original trilogy. Yeah, I was a kid back then, but they obviously had a certain magic and chemistry that nothing before had, at the time or ever.
When I came out, I was so excited. I was put off by the technology thing, and I was put off by the CGI. I liked the models from before. They looked more real to me. And JarJar. Wow, enough said. Horrible, just horrible.
I actually own the DVD to I because I wanted to give it another chance. It is telling to watch the making of and the other documentaries that come with it. Lucas at one point (I shit you not) says something to the effect of "JarJar is the key to Episode I. If he comes across believeble, it works; if he doesn't, it doesn't work." That documentary was made before the movie was released, and JarJar obviously did not work.
Also, in teh various documentaries, what becomes apparent is that Lucas was obsessed with the new technology and making the movies look better than they did. I believe he dropped the ball because what made the first three movies so special was the story. He should have focused more on the way the story unfolded. It could have been so much better.
And don't even get me started on the little gag lines they threw in for C3PO. "I am beside myself." Ugh.
It did work, kids loved Jar Jar and he looked pretty "real" on screen. What didn't work was all of the humor associated with the character (at least for adults).
and Jar Jar promoted to the senate?? give me a break!
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Jar Jar was promoted to the senate intentionally by Palpatine because he's weak and would easily be persuaded to vote Palpatine as emperor.
DUH!
Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. It's a good place to end it with his redemption and death.
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he's holding me back..wah wah wah cry me a river sooky boy.
as ive said before, if i was amidala i would have felt a strong desire to slap anakin until he woke up to himself.
just like all bullies, vader was covering up insecurities and his own low self esteem from his childhood and supposed growing up(which i dont think he ever did) to seek revenge on the entire universe. but did so at another bidding. revenge for what? oh i dont know maybe for not being taken as seriously as he felt he should be. for not garnering the respect he felt was due him. for being told sacrifice is needed if one is to become a great person.
the only thing i applaud vader for is saving luke's life and hoiking the emperor into that abyss.
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Come on, his voice was pretty bad ass too.
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well yes and i will eternally be a fan of james earl jones.
tis just a shame that that such a resonant black voice was revealed to be coming out of a pasty white man.
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so okay then skywalker is weak and chose to take the easy path. even when he was warned against it constantly by people who knew better than he did th consequences of his actions. palpatine played on his insecurities and ego.
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That would have been a hell of a twist - Luke learns that he's Vader's son in Empire, then learns that he's half-black in Jedi.
whoa... whoa... slow down... im still dealing with luke has a sister.
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yes...apparently... there was another.
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