Which way you think they would go in the draft if their pick is that high ?
True, but there's a good chance Moss Won't be back next year. They could lock him up for many years in the future, but that's not what the Pats tend to do with aging talent, and a person known for pulling hamstrings. So maybe they get McFadden for an explosive player to make up for dropping Moss.
Jets reportedly videotaped Patriots last season in Foxborough
There's a new wrinkle in the Spygate controversy between the Patriots and the Jets.
According to a published report, a Jets employee was asked to stop videotaping the Patriots sideline during the first quarter of a game in Foxborough last season. Jets officials claim everything was above board.
"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Bruce Speight, the Jets' senior director of media relations, told Newsday.
The Jets employee at the stadium was removed but the camera was not confiscated, according to the report. The employee's filming took place on the mezzanine level of the stadium.
The newspaper also said there was some confusion as to which Patriots home game the videotaping occurred. New York played at New England twice, including a playoff game.
In Week 1 of this season, New England was santioned by the NFL for videotaping the Jets' sideline. The NFL took away the Patriots' first-round draft pick, fined the team $250,000 and fined head coach Bill Belichick another $500,000.
On Sunday, New England is looking to improve its record to 14-0 when they host the Jets at Foxborough. The Patriots can clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with a win.
True, but there's a good chance Moss Won't be back next year. They could lock him up for many years in the future, but that's not what the Pats tend to do with aging talent, and a person known for pulling hamstrings. So maybe they get McFadden for an explosive player to make up for dropping Moss.
moss will be back either through a new deal or he will get franchised.
i can't see the pats drafting mcfadden (but obviously i would be psyched to get him) just because of the guaranteed money he would get and that typically isn't the patriots m.o.
my guess is that the pats trade down to get multiple 2008/09 picks and then make another deal to get more picks so they'll be stocked for the next couple seasons.
FOXBOROUGH -- A lot to cover here at Gillette Stadium today, and we'll start with the conference call with Jets coach Eric Mangini (11:45 a.m.).
Mangini was asked about today's Newsday report that the Jets were asked to stop videotaping during a game last season at Gillette Stadium.
The Q&A:
There is a report in Newsday that a Jets employee was asked to leave Gillette Stadium last season, possibly for videotaping their coaches. Is that an accurate report?
"What we do every away game is tape our team from both end zones, whenever it's possible. We always ask for permission to do that. Usually it's granted, provided there is a physical space to do that, it's to get the same angle you get in practice. Anybody that asks us to do it, we extend the same courtesy. It's pretty common, one way or the other, depending on how teams like to like at their game tape. That's really what it was."
In other words, you thought you had permission but perhaps you didn't?
"No, we had permission."
And they still asked you to leave?
"Yes, they did."
Mangini was also asked if the Jets were, at all, taping the Patriots' defensive signals.
"No," Mangini said.
He was then asked if the Patriots requested similar permission to have someone taping at various angles or end-zone angles. Again, Mangini replied simply: "No."
Still seriously concerned about the perceived lack of a running game, even considering the fact that the Patriots are, you know, 13-0?
Despite the perfect mark, New England is in the middle of the pack when it comes to the running game, 113.7 yards per contest, only 14th best in the NFL, and the old adage says that to win in the NFL, you have to be able to grind the football into the ground. No good team wins in January without a running game, no matter what Antowain Smith might have to say about it.
The fine folks over at Cold, Hard, Football Facts call this the greatest myth in football, presenting the Minnesota Vikings as Example A:
No. 1 in rushing offense (172.2 YPG)
No. 1 in average per rush (5.49 YPA, nearly a full yard better than No. 2 Philadelphia, 4.57 YPA)
No. 1 in rushing defense (70.7 YPG, more than 100 yards fewer per game than Minnesota generates on offense)
No. 2 in average per rush allowed (3.03 YPA, behind only 4-9 Baltimore at 2.78 YPA).
And yet, despite its running prowess, Minnesota is 7-6 and fighting for a wild card spot.
Kerry Byrne writes:
And if you're looking for a single-game example of the myth of running the ball and stopping the run, simply look at last week's Pittsburgh-New England AFC clash. Before the game, every "pundit" but the Cold, Hard Football Facts told you, like a series of cliche-spewing automatons, that the key to victory for Pittsburgh was to establish the run on offense and keep the ball out of Tom Brady's hands.
Well, the Steelers did exactly what the "pundits" called for them to do: They ran the ball 32 times for 181 yards and a nifty 5.7 average per attempt. They held the Patriots to 22 yards on 9 attempts, a woeful 2.4 average per attempt.
New England won, 34-13.
The Cold, Hard Football Facts, of course, told you in last week's Icy Issues that the key to victory for Pittsburgh was to pass the ball well. Naturally, the Cold, Hard Football Facts were correct and the passing game proved the big difference in the game: The Patriots averaged 8.7 yards per pass attempt. The Steelers averaged just 4.8 yards per pass attempt.
Of course, with a Nor'Easter predicted for the weekend, the Pats may find themselves running the ball a little more than they'd like to, which should finally appease those ready to give up on Laurence Maroney, who still averages 4.2 yards per carry. Compare that to LaDainian Tomlinson (4.5) and Joseph Addai (4.1) and it's clear that it's more a lack of carries and durability than anything else for the second-year back.
Go Jets!! Yeah, i'm an asshole....I love Rhode's quote though, "I guarentee that we'll show up."
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
if the pats run it up...someone is getting brady's knee
The Jets have more incentive to take out their own Judas of a head coach who has turned them from a playoff team to the laughing stock of the league in one season than to injure an opponent.
At least Miami sucked last year, the Jets have taken a mighty fall from grace, and it falls on Mangina.
The Jets have more incentive to take out their own Judas of a head coach who has turned them from a playoff team to the laughing stock of the league in one season than to injure an opponent.
At least Miami sucked last year, the Jets have taken a mighty fall from grace, and it falls on Mangina.
I don't even think NY PJ1 is really a Jet fan, but man the above comments kinda hurt me. Hope you're happy with yourself Ponc.:(
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Just heard a Jets fan say on "J.T. the Brick" that the Jets could beat the Pats. All the Jets had to do, she said, was "sack Brady because he can't throw those touchdowns from his back."
Nice thought, but I jut watched my Steelers get no pressure on Brady after the first 10 minutes of the game and, statistically, tPGH has the No. 1 defense in the NFL. Dunno about all that, but I do know that the Jets better thaw out the New York Sack Exchange if they plan on putting Brady on his ass.
It's really looking as if only injury will stop the Pats from going 16-0. Who knows about the playoffs, but it's not looking good for anybody but those chowder-slurping bastards. Especially once the winter conditions roll in.
A healthy Indy, which we didn't even see in the first meeting, would have a shot against a healthy NE team. Indy has swagger and talent and their defensive line did a pretty good job of harassing ol' Tom.
A red-hot SD team similar to the run the Steelers were on in 2005 might have a chance, but I don't know about them playing in the elements of January Gillette. Tomlinson could definitely get some yards.
PGH would be a stretch, and I'm only giving them that much credit because I love 'em. Jacksonville? Dunno if they already played, but, pssh, please. Cleveland?!? Uh, next contestant.
NE already dispatched Dallas and would take down GB or SEA in a shootout, which supposes either of those teams could generate the offense to get into a shootout with the Pats. That's not saying they have bad offenses, but PGH shut out the 'Hawks (early in the season, yes, I know) and the Pack doesn't have the running game to keep NE's defense going backwards.
Now the world waits, and the anticipation (dread?) of another Pats title looms on the NFL horizon. When (if, please, just let me imagine an 'if' scenario) the Pats take the title, fans of the other 31 teams will grit their teeth as they offer half-hearted congratulations to Pats fans.
Until that one cocky asshole (just like some fans of the Steelers or Cowboys or Niners or Packers fans did in their heydays) makes us all remember just how insufferable the world seems when B. Bill and the boys are kissing the Lombardi Trophy on the Sports Illustrated commercials right after the damned game.
The world seems nicer when the Steelers are No. 1, but I could be biased.
"Almost all those politicians took money from Enron, and there they are holding hearings. That's like O.J. Simpson getting in the Rae Carruth jury pool." -- Charles Barkley
the weather is downright nasty outside. going to be one hell of a game.
p.s. thanks for nothing you suck ass bengals. can't even beat the 49ers who started a 3rd string qb who was making his first start in 6 years in the league.
that game was played like crap on both sides of the ball, granted the weather has be terrible here (not cleveland vs. buffalo terrible though). hats off to anyone that went to the game and stayed for the whole thing.
if i was a jets fan i would want to know why the hell mangini kept running the stupid option play and then brought pennington out for 3rd and long.
Maybe because he's found out that there's cheaters in NY too like A. Petite.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Maybe because he's found out that there's cheaters in NY too like A. Petite.
Peace
Don't you mean like Eric Gagne? Todays paper had a picture from the 1995 Red Sox featuring Mo Vaughn, Roger Clemens, and Jose Canseco. Way to set up the Northeast Balco franchise.
Don't you mean like Eric Gagne? Todays paper had a picture from the 1995 Red Sox featuring Mo Vaughn, Roger Clemens, and Jose Canseco. Way to set up the Northeast Balco franchise.
apparently gagne wasn't using them right, but the sox will take the brewers sandwich pick next year and they can have fun paying him $10mil. and not to get sidetracked, but according to the dates in the mitchell report, it would appear that big mo and roger started using AFTER they left the red sox. jose was a juicer since day 1. and if anything nyc seems to have been the performance enhancing drug center of the east coast.
anyways - how are those jets and ny giants doing? sucks that shockey broke his leg. not that it matters since eli is downright horrible.
Their opponents must pray for snow and wind and rain........Depending on five wide in January in New England may be their downfall. Colts and Jags are better suited to play outdoors in the "elements".
I stand by this statment. Throw in the Chargers as well. They had a tough time beating the hapless Jets in these conditions.
All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
Except the Pats D gets better in the muckm and they have a good running game.
Ypu'll need top pray for high winds, that will be the ingredient to stop brady. precipitation has never really bothered him.
I dont know man. You probably watch more games than I, but it seems he does struggle in the rain. the snow, well...he owns the snow. Wind and rain bring him down to the level of a star vs. superstar.
Not so sure about the defense either....a lot of wide open guys that were over/under thrown yesterday, and a lot of big runs. Who knows...thats why they play the games....ha ha.
I think I have figured out why so many people hate the patriots now. Answer: Rodney Harrison.
All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
T. Brady on 60 Minutes tonight that better not be a jinx. Time for a shutout against Miami. Defense needs to shine today, it was windy down on the beach today.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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Jets reportedly videotaped Patriots last season in Foxborough
There's a new wrinkle in the Spygate controversy between the Patriots and the Jets.
According to a published report, a Jets employee was asked to stop videotaping the Patriots sideline during the first quarter of a game in Foxborough last season. Jets officials claim everything was above board.
"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Bruce Speight, the Jets' senior director of media relations, told Newsday.
The Jets employee at the stadium was removed but the camera was not confiscated, according to the report. The employee's filming took place on the mezzanine level of the stadium.
The newspaper also said there was some confusion as to which Patriots home game the videotaping occurred. New York played at New England twice, including a playoff game.
In Week 1 of this season, New England was santioned by the NFL for videotaping the Jets' sideline. The NFL took away the Patriots' first-round draft pick, fined the team $250,000 and fined head coach Bill Belichick another $500,000.
On Sunday, New England is looking to improve its record to 14-0 when they host the Jets at Foxborough. The Patriots can clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with a win.
moss will be back either through a new deal or he will get franchised.
i can't see the pats drafting mcfadden (but obviously i would be psyched to get him) just because of the guaranteed money he would get and that typically isn't the patriots m.o.
my guess is that the pats trade down to get multiple 2008/09 picks and then make another deal to get more picks so they'll be stocked for the next couple seasons.
FOXBOROUGH -- A lot to cover here at Gillette Stadium today, and we'll start with the conference call with Jets coach Eric Mangini (11:45 a.m.).
Mangini was asked about today's Newsday report that the Jets were asked to stop videotaping during a game last season at Gillette Stadium.
The Q&A:
There is a report in Newsday that a Jets employee was asked to leave Gillette Stadium last season, possibly for videotaping their coaches. Is that an accurate report?
"What we do every away game is tape our team from both end zones, whenever it's possible. We always ask for permission to do that. Usually it's granted, provided there is a physical space to do that, it's to get the same angle you get in practice. Anybody that asks us to do it, we extend the same courtesy. It's pretty common, one way or the other, depending on how teams like to like at their game tape. That's really what it was."
In other words, you thought you had permission but perhaps you didn't?
"No, we had permission."
And they still asked you to leave?
"Yes, they did."
Mangini was also asked if the Jets were, at all, taping the Patriots' defensive signals.
"No," Mangini said.
He was then asked if the Patriots requested similar permission to have someone taping at various angles or end-zone angles. Again, Mangini replied simply: "No."
perfect for an upset
That forecast does not bode well for my fantasy team led by Brady.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
thankfully the field was switched over from grass to field-turf last season.
Still seriously concerned about the perceived lack of a running game, even considering the fact that the Patriots are, you know, 13-0?
Despite the perfect mark, New England is in the middle of the pack when it comes to the running game, 113.7 yards per contest, only 14th best in the NFL, and the old adage says that to win in the NFL, you have to be able to grind the football into the ground. No good team wins in January without a running game, no matter what Antowain Smith might have to say about it.
The fine folks over at Cold, Hard, Football Facts call this the greatest myth in football, presenting the Minnesota Vikings as Example A:
http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_1943_Icy_Issues%3A_busting_football%27s_greatest_myth.html
No. 1 in rushing offense (172.2 YPG)
No. 1 in average per rush (5.49 YPA, nearly a full yard better than No. 2 Philadelphia, 4.57 YPA)
No. 1 in rushing defense (70.7 YPG, more than 100 yards fewer per game than Minnesota generates on offense)
No. 2 in average per rush allowed (3.03 YPA, behind only 4-9 Baltimore at 2.78 YPA).
And yet, despite its running prowess, Minnesota is 7-6 and fighting for a wild card spot.
Kerry Byrne writes:
And if you're looking for a single-game example of the myth of running the ball and stopping the run, simply look at last week's Pittsburgh-New England AFC clash. Before the game, every "pundit" but the Cold, Hard Football Facts told you, like a series of cliche-spewing automatons, that the key to victory for Pittsburgh was to establish the run on offense and keep the ball out of Tom Brady's hands.
Well, the Steelers did exactly what the "pundits" called for them to do: They ran the ball 32 times for 181 yards and a nifty 5.7 average per attempt. They held the Patriots to 22 yards on 9 attempts, a woeful 2.4 average per attempt.
New England won, 34-13.
The Cold, Hard Football Facts, of course, told you in last week's Icy Issues that the key to victory for Pittsburgh was to pass the ball well. Naturally, the Cold, Hard Football Facts were correct and the passing game proved the big difference in the game: The Patriots averaged 8.7 yards per pass attempt. The Steelers averaged just 4.8 yards per pass attempt.
Of course, with a Nor'Easter predicted for the weekend, the Pats may find themselves running the ball a little more than they'd like to, which should finally appease those ready to give up on Laurence Maroney, who still averages 4.2 yards per carry. Compare that to LaDainian Tomlinson (4.5) and Joseph Addai (4.1) and it's clear that it's more a lack of carries and durability than anything else for the second-year back.
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
At least Miami sucked last year, the Jets have taken a mighty fall from grace, and it falls on Mangina.
I don't even think NY PJ1 is really a Jet fan, but man the above comments kinda hurt me. Hope you're happy with yourself Ponc.:(
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Nice thought, but I jut watched my Steelers get no pressure on Brady after the first 10 minutes of the game and, statistically, tPGH has the No. 1 defense in the NFL. Dunno about all that, but I do know that the Jets better thaw out the New York Sack Exchange if they plan on putting Brady on his ass.
It's really looking as if only injury will stop the Pats from going 16-0. Who knows about the playoffs, but it's not looking good for anybody but those chowder-slurping bastards. Especially once the winter conditions roll in.
A healthy Indy, which we didn't even see in the first meeting, would have a shot against a healthy NE team. Indy has swagger and talent and their defensive line did a pretty good job of harassing ol' Tom.
A red-hot SD team similar to the run the Steelers were on in 2005 might have a chance, but I don't know about them playing in the elements of January Gillette. Tomlinson could definitely get some yards.
PGH would be a stretch, and I'm only giving them that much credit because I love 'em. Jacksonville? Dunno if they already played, but, pssh, please. Cleveland?!? Uh, next contestant.
NE already dispatched Dallas and would take down GB or SEA in a shootout, which supposes either of those teams could generate the offense to get into a shootout with the Pats. That's not saying they have bad offenses, but PGH shut out the 'Hawks (early in the season, yes, I know) and the Pack doesn't have the running game to keep NE's defense going backwards.
Now the world waits, and the anticipation (dread?) of another Pats title looms on the NFL horizon. When (if, please, just let me imagine an 'if' scenario) the Pats take the title, fans of the other 31 teams will grit their teeth as they offer half-hearted congratulations to Pats fans.
Until that one cocky asshole (just like some fans of the Steelers or Cowboys or Niners or Packers fans did in their heydays) makes us all remember just how insufferable the world seems when B. Bill and the boys are kissing the Lombardi Trophy on the Sports Illustrated commercials right after the damned game.
The world seems nicer when the Steelers are No. 1, but I could be biased.
p.s. thanks for nothing you suck ass bengals. can't even beat the 49ers who started a 3rd string qb who was making his first start in 6 years in the league.
if i was a jets fan i would want to know why the hell mangini kept running the stupid option play and then brought pennington out for 3rd and long.
*sigh*
at least you stopped crying cheater
Maybe because he's found out that there's cheaters in NY too like A. Petite.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Don't you mean like Eric Gagne? Todays paper had a picture from the 1995 Red Sox featuring Mo Vaughn, Roger Clemens, and Jose Canseco. Way to set up the Northeast Balco franchise.
apparently gagne wasn't using them right, but the sox will take the brewers sandwich pick next year and they can have fun paying him $10mil. and not to get sidetracked, but according to the dates in the mitchell report, it would appear that big mo and roger started using AFTER they left the red sox. jose was a juicer since day 1. and if anything nyc seems to have been the performance enhancing drug center of the east coast.
anyways - how are those jets and ny giants doing? sucks that shockey broke his leg. not that it matters since eli is downright horrible.
very unimpressive ,,jets could of won that game
no offense from ur team at all 2 field goals
I stand by this statment. Throw in the Chargers as well. They had a tough time beating the hapless Jets in these conditions.
Ypu'll need top pray for high winds, that will be the ingredient to stop brady. precipitation has never really bothered him.
I dont know man. You probably watch more games than I, but it seems he does struggle in the rain. the snow, well...he owns the snow. Wind and rain bring him down to the level of a star vs. superstar.
Not so sure about the defense either....a lot of wide open guys that were over/under thrown yesterday, and a lot of big runs. Who knows...thats why they play the games....ha ha.
I think I have figured out why so many people hate the patriots now. Answer: Rodney Harrison.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)