2007 New England Patriots

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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    using that school of thought, there's no doubt that Jacksonville, Pittsburgh and San Diego all match up pretty well with the Pats (and obviously the Colts do). but it's a matter of keeping it together for 60 minutes and not giving up the big play. Plus, somebody has to force Brady into turnovers. be it with constant blitzing or someone sticking a shiv in his thigh.


    well considering the pats housed pitt and diego

    i guess jax is everyones hope?
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
  • DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    Mmmmmmmmmmmm this champagne tastes great! Sorry Miami. Wanna sip? PSYCH!
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    Getting ready to go see those Dolphins play today wearing my lighted Patriots hat.
    Amazingly plenty of Patriots/Red Sox fans there, should be even easier to get tickets today than the last home game against the Ravens.

    Peace
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  • NOCODE#1 wrote:
    well considering the pats housed pitt and diego

    i guess jax is everyones hope?


    Pittsburgh was housed by the Colts during the 2005 regular season before beating them in the playoffs en route to the Super Bowl.
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    culot4 wrote:
    Just going to throw this out there....A team that can't run the ball or stop the run might have problems later.

    going into last night's game the ny giants were 4th in the league is rushing yards per game (avg 134.3 ypg) and they ran for 79 yards last night against the pats who's run D is 10th in the league (avg 98.3 ypg).

    as for the pats running game, going into last night's game, the pats had the 13th ranked rushing offense (115.6 ypg). when you think at how much the pats were throwing (and throwing...and throwing some more) for a large part of the year, i just scratch my head when people say the pats have no rushing game.

    and if you want to think about jacksonville (which everyone seems to want to) they are 18th against the pass (219.7 pg) which is worst among all playoff teams (assuming cleveland doesn't get it) and 7th against the run (95.7 ypg).
  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    As a Giant fan, they (The Giants) played much better than I thought they would. The 2 nd Moss TD (could've been 2 in a row there) and Manning's awful clock management inside 2 1/2 minutes were the backbreakers. Congratulations on 16-0. I'm just glad my team made them earn it

    i was definitely shocked at how the ny giants came out and they did give the pats a close game for a while, but at what cost? three ny giants starters had to leave the game with sprained knees and one d-back left with an abdominal strain. all of the starters appeared to play full games, while their wild-card playoff opponent is sitting their starting QB, RB and WR.
  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    using that school of thought, there's no doubt that Jacksonville, Pittsburgh and San Diego all match up pretty well with the Pats (and obviously the Colts do). but it's a matter of keeping it together for 60 minutes and not giving up the big play. Plus, somebody has to force Brady into turnovers. be it with constant blitzing or someone sticking a shiv in his thigh.

    san diego doesn't really worry me because philip rivers is their qb and he's horrible. worse than eli manning horrible and that's saying something. the pats will focus everything on stopping LT and make rivers beat them.

    pittsburgh is without willie parker for the playoffs, so that hurts their running game (davenport is not an every down back in my opinion).

    jacksonville would be a tough match-up and a good game. i think the pats would focus on stopping taylor and drew and make garrard beat them, but i think jacksonville's weak pass defense would be exploited by brady to moss, welker, stallworth, gaffney, watson, faulk, etc.
    Pittsburgh was housed by the Colts during the 2005 regular season before beating them in the playoffs en route to the Super Bowl.

    and this is why they play the games. right now i'm just going to sit back, wait and see what the final seedings are and not worry about who the pats will play until that particular game is over.
  • JSBE wrote:

    and this is why they play the games. right now i'm just going to sit back, wait and see what the final seedings are and not worry about who the pats will play until that particular game is over.


    yeah that's you. NOCODE#1 seems to think that the Pats beating them (Pitt and San Diego) earlier in the season means that they will beat them in the playoffs. obviously New England is the best team in the league. but the 15-1 Vikings were the best team in 1998 and they lost to the FALCONS of all teams in the playoffs. now that was a shocker. I wouldn't be that surprised at all to see Pitt, Jax, or San Diego beat the Pats. The Falcons upset in '98 surely shows that stranger things have happened.
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  • culot4culot4 Posts: 775
    JSBE wrote:
    going into last night's game the ny giants were 4th in the league is rushing yards per game (avg 134.3 ypg) and they ran for 79 yards last night against the pats who's run D is 10th in the league (avg 98.3 ypg).

    If you want to pull stats off of NFL.com thats fine, but it doesn't tell the whole story. The constant thing you see with teams that play NE is that they have to abandon their running game because they usually have to make up a deficit by catching up with the pass. If you think losing Colvin was no big deal maybe you can provide a stat where their run D ranks in the games after his injury. Need proof of a back having success than just look at what Willis McGahee was able to when the Pats weren't winning by such a large margin that the Ravens could stick with the run.
    JSBE wrote:
    as for the pats running game, going into last night's game, the pats had the 13th ranked rushing offense (115.6 ypg). when you think at how much the pats were throwing (and throwing...and throwing some more) for a large part of the year, i just scratch my head when people say the pats have no rushing game.
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    Maroney doesn't have a 1000 yards or 200 carries. He has a healthy 4.5 ypc average but if the Pats have their passing game shut down, do they really have a back who will be able to grind it out. If its the 4th quarter of a game the Pats are winning by a fg trying to hold off a team that has gained the momentum, do you trust Maroney or Faulk to get the job done on the ground?
    JSBE wrote:
    and if you want to think about jacksonville (which everyone seems to want to) they are 18th against the pass (219.7 pg) which is worst among all playoff teams (assuming cleveland doesn't get it) and 7th against the run (95.7 ypg).

    There is too much familiarity between the Colts/Pats to think the Colts can go up to NE and win the AFC Championship. The teams that try and out physical the Pats instead of trying to out finesse them are the ones that have come the closest to success. If there is one thing the Jags are it is physical. They are more seasoned than you think playing in the AFC South. That is a really good division, and their numbers against the pass reflect having to deal with that.
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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    Pittsburgh was housed by the Colts during the 2005 regular season before beating them in the playoffs en route to the Super Bowl.
    double
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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    Pittsburgh was housed by the Colts during the 2005 regular season before beating them in the playoffs en route to the Super Bowl.
    so the pats who have beaten the steelers everytime this decade in the postseason

    will somehow with their most talented team


    lose to an average steeler club.
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    yeah that's you. NOCODE#1 seems to think that the Pats beating them (Pitt and San Diego) earlier in the season means that they will beat them in the playoffs. obviously New England is the best team in the league. but the 15-1 Vikings were the best team in 1998 and they lost to the FALCONS of all teams in the playoffs. now that was a shocker. I wouldn't be that surprised at all to see Pitt, Jax, or San Diego beat the Pats. The Falcons upset in '98 surely shows that stranger things have happened.

    can you name a team that the pats beat in the regular season and lost to in the playoffs?


    it just makes sense

    keeping hoping and coming up with history that has no bearing on a team that to be honest can turn it on whenever they want
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    culot4 wrote:
    If you want to pull stats off of NFL.com thats fine, but it doesn't tell the whole story. The constant thing you see with teams that play NE is that they have to abandon their running game because they usually have to make up a deficit by catching up with the pass. If you think losing Colvin was no big deal maybe you can provide a stat where their run D ranks in the games after his injury. Need proof of a back having success than just look at what Willis McGahee was able to when the Pats weren't winning by such a large margin that the Ravens could stick with the run.

    at least i'm coming here with stats to back up what i am saying.

    yes, mcgahee ran all over the pats D - that was 1 game out of 16 - so i really don't see what your point is to be totally honest.
    culot4 wrote:
    Maroney doesn't have a 1000 yards or 200 carries. He has a healthy 4.5 ypc average but if the Pats have their passing game shut down, do they really have a back who will be able to grind it out. If its the 4th quarter of a game the Pats are winning by a fg trying to hold off a team that has gained the momentum, do you trust Maroney or Faulk to get the job done on the ground?

    you have to remember that maroney missed three games (one being the dallas game) and for a good part of the season (games 1-10) the pats were all about passing, passing and more passing. maroney didn't get his 1st td of the season until game 10 against buffalo.

    i totally trust maroney and faulk (and heath evans and kyle eckel) to get it done, but also, you have to understand that little dumps and slants to welker is a big part of the pats "running" game too.
    culot4 wrote:
    There is too much familiarity between the Colts/Pats to think the Colts can go up to NE and win the AFC Championship. The teams that try and out physical the Pats instead of trying to out finesse them are the ones that have come the closest to success. If there is one thing the Jags are it is physical. They are more seasoned than you think playing in the AFC South. That is a really good division, and their numbers against the pass reflect having to deal with that.

    i think the colts could come into new england and beat the pats. same with the steelers and the jags and the chargers. i'm confident that the pats can beat any of them, but i'm not dumb enough to consider each game an automatic pats win.

    i don't "familiarity" has much to do with anything to be honest. the colts are a very good football team, so if they were to face the pats and won, that would be one of the reasons why.

    this season, so far, the pats have beaten 7 of the 11 playoff teams (assuming cleveland and washington are both in). the pats beat indy, dallas and the ny giants on the road. the pats outscored san diego, cleveland, washington and pittsburgh a collective 158-51 at home.
  • NOCODE#1 wrote:
    so the pats who have beaten the steelers everytime this decade in the postseason

    will somehow with their most talented team


    lose to an average steeler club.

    I didn't say it will happen. I said it could happen. You Patriots fans are certain they will win the Super Bowl. you shouldn't be so certain. you should be very confident...because they are far and away the best team. but the best team doesn't always win the super bowl. playoff games are just one game and anyone can win. unlike a best of 7 series where the best team always wins.
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    I didn't say it will happen. I said it could happen. You Patriots fans are certain they will win the Super Bowl. you shouldn't be so certain. you should be very confident...because they are far and away the best team. but the best team doesn't always win the super bowl. playoff games are just one game and anyone can win. unlike a best of 7 series where the best team always wins.

    Where do you get this idea that Patriots fans are certain that they'll win the Super Bowl?? Get this right there's no such thing as a certainty in sports especially in 1 loss and you're out. I confident with a bit of uncertainty which I always have growing up in Boston and their sports teams.

    Went to the Dolphin's game today and sat next some guys in a Bruins, Celtics, Red Sox and Patriots jersey and it made sitting in that damn heat and sun bearable.

    Peace
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  • g under p wrote:
    Where do you get this idea that Patriots fans are certain that they'll win the Super Bowl?? Get this right there's no such thing as a certainty in sports especially in 1 loss and you're out. I confident with a bit of uncertainty which I always have growing up in Boston and their sports teams.

    Went to the Dolphin's game today and sat next some guys in a Bruins, Celtics, Red Sox and Patriots jersey and it made sitting in that damn heat and sun bearable.

    Peace

    yeah I've been to some Dolphins games. they're fun. peace
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  • drop 10 into coverage. send that one guy for shits and giggles. hey, nothing else works. wtf, why not?
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    NEW YORK—New England's undefeated season now includes yet another achievement: Bill Belichick is The Associated Press 2007 NFL Coach of the Year.

    The first coach since Don Shula in 1972 to lead his team through a spotless regular season, Belichick won the award Thursday for the second time in four years. In 2003, the Patriots went 14-2 and won their final 12 games. This time, Belichick's team rampaged through the first part of the schedule, then won a handful of close games on their way to 16-0.

    That was enough to offset the major blemish on Belichick's resume: a $500,000 personal fine, $250,000 fine for the team and the loss of a first-round pick in the upcoming draft after the Patriots were caught videotaping New York Jets coaches during the season opener.

    Spygate didn't stop 29 of the 50 voters on a nationwide panel of media members who cover the NFL from voting for Belichick. In a season highlighted by many strong coaching performances, Belichick beat out Green Bay's Mike McCarthy, who received 15 votes for leading the Packers to a 13-3 record and the NFC North title.

    "Any time we win we're excited," Belichick said after completing the perfect regular season with a 38-35 victory over the New York Giants. "With the success we've had this season, (the Giants) game puts a certain little bit more of a degree of satisfaction in that game because of the culmination of the regular season. But, at the same time, we've got plenty of things that we need to work on."

    Also getting votes were Dallas coach Wade Phillips and Jacksonville's Jack Del Rio (two each), and Indianapolis' Tony Dungy and Tampa Bay's Jon Gruden (one each).

    The only other Patriots coach to win the award was Belichick's mentor, Bill Parcells, in 1994.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,933
    JSBE wrote:

    The only other Patriots coach to win the award was Belichick's mentor, Bill Parcells, in 1994.
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  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    The NFL passing leader in yardage, has never won a Superbowl.

    0-42

    Interesting.

    Not that the Pats shouldn't be the overwhelming favorite to win it all though!
  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    sennin wrote:
    The NFL passing leader in yardage, has never won a Superbowl.

    0-42

    Interesting.

    Not that the Pats shouldn't be the overwhelming favorite to win it all though!

    i saw that the other day. odd that it has never happened.

    also...(courtesy of bob ryan, but updated to reflect the c's win over the rockets last night)

    Since Game 4 of the ALCS, when the Red Sox were down 3-1 to the Indians, the Sawx, Pats and Celts have a combined record of 45-3. The three losses have been by one point, in OT and two points on a (totally valid) call with one-tenth of a second left in a tie game. That loss to the Detroit Pistons is the only time anyone has seen one of those three teams lose a game at home since Oct. 17.

    damn amazing run boston has been on.
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    JSBE wrote:
    i saw that the other day. odd that it has never happened.

    also...(courtesy of bob ryan, but updated to reflect the c's win over the rockets last night)

    Since Game 4 of the ALCS, when the Red Sox were down 3-1 to the Indians, the Sawx, Pats and Celts have a combined record of 45-3. The three losses have been by one point, in OT and two points on a (totally valid) call with one-tenth of a second left in a tie game. That loss to the Detroit Pistons is the only time anyone has seen one of those three teams lose a game at home since Oct. 17.

    damn amazing run boston has been on.

    DAMN, that's a town on a ROLL.

    Peace
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    The Patriots' undefeated season now includes yet another achievement: Bill
    Belichick is the 2007 NFL Coach of the Year. The first coach since Don Shula in
    1972 to lead his team through a spotless regular season, Belichick won the award
    today for the second time in four years.
    To read more, visit http://www.boston.com

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • cuyler41cuyler41 Posts: 383
    g under p wrote:


    Thats not a simulation, I was hoping for some game footage. Just a jack-asse's opinion.
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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Least surprising vote in quite a while ... Tom Brady named NFL MVP ... all well and good ... but, let's keep the eye on the prize!
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    THE Scariest game will be this first one whomever the Patriots play.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    g under p wrote:
    THE Scariest game will be this first one whomever the Patriots play.

    Peace


    do you have to physically type "peace" all the time or does it just magically appear?


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • yall will lose the super bowl. God told me so.
    bombs, dropping down, please forgive our hometown
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