Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    nfanel wrote:
    boom is the man on the boat? :eek:

    sorry, read that too quick. :D

    Well he probably was in Hawaii when they filmed the episode. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • not4u10
    not4u10 Posts: 239
    Where does one get 324 dead bodies?

    THE PURGE
    08/28/98-09/01/00-12/08/02-12/09/02-04/28/03-05/03/03-07/05/03-07/06/03-07/08/03-07/09/03-07/12/03-10/01/04-10/03/05-05/13/06-05/27/06-05/28/06-06/01/06-06/03/06-06/19/08-06/25/08-10/28/09-10/31/09-05/17/10-10/19/13-10/21/13-10/27/13-4/28/16-09/11/22-09/07/24
  • pineapplesandwaves
    pineapplesandwaves Posts: 584
    Oh, my gosh!


    The minute I saw Michael, I thought, I saw that one coming (as many of us did).


    But, then, Jin was having a flashback, not a flash forward.


    I did NOT see that one coming.


    I assumed he was having a flash forward. I thought he'd fallen back into working for Sun's dad and as a result, missed out on the birth. I thought, how tragic and sad. Turns out, it was tragic and sad after all, but for different reasons. Intense.


    So, was Jin among the Oceanic 6 and died back home or did he die on the island and had a "memorial" headstone?


    Btw, I love Hurley. He's so sweet, and he looked so handsome in his suit.
    No time to be void or save up on life. You got to spend it all.
  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    pineapplesandwaves wrote:
    Oh, my gosh!


    The minute I saw Michael, I thought, I saw that one coming (as many of us did).


    But, then, Jin was having a flashback, not a flash forward.


    I did NOT see that one coming.


    I assumed he was having a flash forward. I thought he'd fallen back into working for Sun's dad and as a result, missed out on the birth. I thought, how tragic and sad. Turns out, it was tragic and sad after all, but for different reasons. Intense.


    So, was Jin among the Oceanic 6 and died back home or did he die on the island and had a "memorial" headstone?


    Btw, I love Hurley. He's so sweet, and he looked so handsome in his suit.
    Yeah, had to be a flashback. o way does he go bACK TO WORK FOR sUN'S DAD. Great question, is he six or are we stuck at 5?

    And who dies??
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    pineapplesandwaves wrote:
    Oh, my gosh!


    The minute I saw Michael, I thought, I saw that one coming (as many of us did).


    But, then, Jin was having a flashback, not a flash forward.


    I did NOT see that one coming.


    I assumed he was having a flash forward. I thought he'd fallen back into working for Sun's dad and as a result, missed out on the birth. I thought, how tragic and sad. Turns out, it was tragic and sad after all, but for different reasons. Intense.


    So, was Jin among the Oceanic 6 and died back home or did he die on the island and had a "memorial" headstone?


    Btw, I love Hurley. He's so sweet, and he looked so handsome in his suit.
    Yeah, had to be a flashback. o way does he go bACK TO WORK FOR sUN'S DAD. Great question, is he six or are we stuck at 5?

    And who dies??
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    dirtyT wrote:
    Yeah, had to be a flashback. o way does he go bACK TO WORK FOR sUN'S DAD. Great question, is he six or are we stuck at 5?

    And who dies??

    Don't know who dies next week, but Sun and Jin are numbers 5 & 6. The promos last week said we'd discover the last of the Oceanic 6 this week.

    Unless of course, we're guessing Jin dies before leaving the island whereupon we're back at Aaron being one of the 6 again. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • pineapplesandwaves
    pineapplesandwaves Posts: 584
    dirtyT wrote:
    Yeah, had to be a flashback. o way does he go bACK TO WORK FOR sUN'S DAD. Great question, is he six or are we stuck at 5?

    And who dies??
    I couldn't believe that he'd go back to work for Sun's dad, but I thought maybe he was forced (threatened) into it.

    Someone dies next week, eh (I never watch the previews)? Let the theories begin! :)
    No time to be void or save up on life. You got to spend it all.
  • pineapplesandwaves
    pineapplesandwaves Posts: 584
    Solat13 wrote:
    Don't know who dies next week, but Sun and Jin are numbers 5 & 6. The promos last week said we'd discover the last of the Oceanic 6 this week.

    Unless of course, we're guessing Jin dies before leaving the island whereupon we're back at Aaron being one of the 6 again.
    Bummer. I didn't realize the Oceanic 6 was now complete. I was hoping we'd have one more survivor to add to the Oceanic 6..
    No time to be void or save up on life. You got to spend it all.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Btw, I wonder if TPTB were having a little fun with us tonight. In the promos, they said last week you'll see a face you never thought you'd see again. And pretty much most us guessed it was Michael who was the man on the boat. But here's where the joke comes in. The tv show that was on in Sun's room in the beginning of the episode was showing Expose that starred everyone's fav - Nikki.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    Me and the wife have gone over this a million times, but aren't we at more than 6 getting off the island already?

    Jack, Kate, Hurley, Aaron, Ben, Sayid, Sun. I guess Ben doesn't count, since he wasn't on the plane, but that's 6 without him.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    Me and the wife have gone over this a million times, but aren't we at more than 6 getting off the island already?

    Jack, Kate, Hurley, Aaron, Ben, Sayid, Sun. I guess Ben doesn't count, since he wasn't on the plane, but that's 6 without him.

    I'm rewatching the episode now, but maybe Jin isn't one of the Oceanic 6 afterall.

    I just found this screencap:

    http://lost.cubit.net/s4inv/4x07_tombstone.jpg

    The date on the tombstone says Jin died the date of the crash. So either he's alive and still on the island and was left behind and Sun is pretending he's dead as part of the coverup or he dies before he leaves the island.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    Nah... he's blonde enough to 'prove' he's Claires :D

    Yeah it would be a real cheat on their part for him just to be Kate's son named "Aaron", when they obviously were saying at the end of that episode he was Claire's Aaron.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    not4u10 wrote:
    Where does one get 324 dead bodies?

    THE PURGE

    Wow! Great connection! I hadn't thought of that. Of course the episode ended 8 minutes ago here.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    pineapplesandwaves wrote:
    Oh, my gosh!

    The minute I saw Michael, I thought, I saw that one coming (as many of us did).
    But, then, Jin was having a flashback, not a flash forward.
    I did NOT see that one coming.
    I assumed he was having a flash forward. I thought he'd fallen back into working for Sun's dad and as a result, missed out on the birth. I thought, how tragic and sad. Turns out, it was tragic and sad after all, but for different reasons. Intense.
    So, was Jin among the Oceanic 6 and died back home or did he die on the island and had a "memorial" headstone?
    Btw, I love Hurley. He's so sweet, and he looked so handsome in his suit.

    My grade for the episode: A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The Jin flashback and Sun flashforward was fucking brilliant. WIthout a doubt the best episode this season.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Solat13 wrote:
    I'm rewatching the episode now, but maybe Jin isn't one of the Oceanic 6 afterall.

    I just found this screencap:

    http://lost.cubit.net/s4inv/4x07_tombstone.jpg

    The date on the tombstone says Jin died the date of the crash. So either he's alive and still on the island and was left behind and Sun is pretending he's dead as part of the coverup or he dies before he leaves the island.

    He probably died trying to get off the island. The other survivors are keeping it secret about what was going on on the island so they (or just Sun) decided to just say he died in the crash.

    He is not alive because there would be no reason for Sun to pretend he's dead when she was alone with Hurley.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • pineapplesandwaves
    pineapplesandwaves Posts: 584
    Solat13 wrote:
    I'm rewatching the episode now, but maybe Jin isn't one of the Oceanic 6 afterall.

    I just found this screencap:

    http://lost.cubit.net/s4inv/4x07_tombstone.jpg

    The date on the tombstone says Jin died the date of the crash. So either he's alive and still on the island and was left behind and Sun is pretending he's dead as part of the coverup or he dies before he leaves the island.
    When I watched the episode, I noticed the year, but I didn't see the month, and I still didn't put much stock into it, because my mind was racing. :)

    Interesting.

    So, if Jin isn't a part of the Oceanic 6 and all the members have been revealed (as you suggested earlier), does that mean Aaron is included in the six?
    No time to be void or save up on life. You got to spend it all.
  • pineapplesandwaves
    pineapplesandwaves Posts: 584
    rrivers wrote:
    He probably died trying to get off the island. The other survivors are keeping it secret about what was going on on the island so they (or just Sun) decided to just say he died in the crash.

    He is not alive because there would be no reason for Sun to pretend he's dead when she was alone with Hurley.
    But did they ever actually say anything to indicate he was dead?


    I realize that Hurley is a very laid back guy, but he was very nonchalant when he mentioned going to "see" Jin. It was at that moment that I realized Jin was dead (or "dead") and I thought the way Hurley suggested going to "see" him was strange. It lacked any sort of compassion or condolence.


    Then, at the cemetery, I don't recall Sun mentioning he was dead (E.g., saying she wished he was still alive). If I remember correctly (I really need to start re-watching episodes, too :) ), she said she missed him, maybe something about wishing he'd been there, and that she named the baby Ji Yeon, like he wanted, but nothing to confirm he was dead.


    He's not "there", but it doesn't mean he's dead. He could still be on the island.
    No time to be void or save up on life. You got to spend it all.
  • pineapplesandwaves
    pineapplesandwaves Posts: 584
    rrivers wrote:
    My grade for the episode: A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++

    The Jin flashback and Sun flashforward was fucking brilliant. WIthout a doubt the best episode this season.
    Fantastic episode!

    It was also nice to finally discover who Ben's man on the boat was. I know most believed it was Michael, but I'm glad it was finally confirmed.

    Also, I wonder why Hurley was happy when Sun said no one else was coming.
    No time to be void or save up on life. You got to spend it all.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    not4u10 wrote:
    Where does one get 324 dead bodies?

    THE PURGE
    Exactly my thought.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Solat13 wrote:
    I'm rewatching the episode now, but maybe Jin isn't one of the Oceanic 6 afterall.

    I just found this screencap:

    http://lost.cubit.net/s4inv/4x07_tombstone.jpg

    The date on the tombstone says Jin died the date of the crash. So either he's alive and still on the island and was left behind and Sun is pretending he's dead as part of the coverup or he dies before he leaves the island.
    I paid attention to the tombstone while watching, first glance saw "2004" and said to the wife, "Jin is gonna die in a few days cause its Christmas 2004", then saw a clearer shot with the Sept 22, and figure Jin may still be alive on the island...wonder if the stone was there from the fake wreckage before Sun got "rescued" and if there was one for her as well.

    I knew something was up with Jin when he was buying Panda #1 and received the call, said "I kno, I'm on my way" and then we saw Sun saying "call my husband" afterwards..just didn't piece the flashbacktoforwrd thing together.
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