Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    fowls wrote:
    ...you have a season and a half of him left.
    Well thats a relief to know that whiny little bastard has it coming. Him and Shannon are the only cast members who annoyed me. I quietly cheered when they killed her off.
  • Lostdogsinthegarden
    Lostdogsinthegarden Posts: 844
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Well thats a relief to know that whiny little bastard has it coming. Him and Shannon are the only cast members who annoyed me. I quietly cheered when they killed her off.

    I have to agree with that. Shannon just sucked big time... I found no good qualities in that bitch! Now Charlie had a lot of good, entertaining moments. But he also had a whole bunch of irritating moments as well. And those moments outweighed the good moments, so I too was wishing for his exit from the show.
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    AmentsChick wrote:
    http://lost.about.com/od/season4recaps/a/4x02recap_2.htm

    "What the hell do you mean you saw Walt?" Sawyer says. "In a dream?"
    "No dream," Locke says. "It was Walt, only, taller."

    "Taller? What, like a giant?"

    Locke looks at him.

    "Okay, what exactly did Walt tell you?"

    "He said I had work to do, that I had to stop this woman Naomi from bringing the rest of her people here."

    "What? You didn't ask any follow up questions?"

    "Ben had shot me and left me for dead. Walt saved my life, so I pretty much took him at his word."
    so can we assume that Ben can appear in different places as different people? Maybe he appeared as Walt cos he knew Locke wouldn't listen to him that time. And he appeared as the therapist in last weeks one... cos it was she who told Juliette to go find them but later Juliette said that Ben was telling her what to do. Sorry if this has been said or seemed obvious to everyone but I haven't really been following the thread... thought you were too far ahead but you're only a few days.
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Perhaps Claire's gonna find some redemption this week when Locke 'lets' (that fucking annoys me too... how they're so quick to accept orders) her talk to wotshisface with the grenade in his mouth. She's due something interesting to do rather than walk around with the baby the whole time.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    LikeAnOcean and Lostdogsinthegarden,
    Wanting Charlie dead?! :eek:
    I can no longer speak to either of you. :p
    I love and miss Charlie. :)

    Helen,
    I don't think anyone has mentioned the idea that Ben is taking different forms (though I can't remember every post in the 105 pages here :p). That's an interesting theory!
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    thossy wrote:
    tangent 2, since Michael and Walt aren't part of the Oceanic 6 WTF are they!!!!
    No, that would make it the Oceanic 7, as five have already been revealed.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    tybird wrote:
    No, that would make it the Oceanic 7, as five have already been revealed.
    Hurley, Jack, Kate and Sayid...4.

    The preview said the "last 2" of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed. (I'm guessing Sunburn and Jin & Tonic)

    I don't think Turnip Head is counted as a can in the six pack.
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Poncier wrote:
    Hurley, Jack, Kate and Sayid...4.

    The preview said the "last 2" of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed. (I'm guessing Sunburn and Jin & Tonic)

    I don't think Turnip Head is counted as a can in the six pack.
    I saw something that counted Turnip head as one, maybe it was wrong. :confused:
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Poncier wrote:
    Hurley, Jack, Kate and Sayid...4.

    The preview said the "last 2" of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed. (I'm guessing Sunburn and Jin & Tonic)

    I don't think Turnip Head is counted as a can in the six pack.
    Double post.....
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Cool article about the possibilities of the final members of the Oceanic 6. I don't think Aaron is included in that group since he wasn't born or on the manifest of Oceanic 815.
    http://tv.ign.com/articles/859/859071p1.html

    That said, I'm more interested in the other 2 who got off the island but apparently died before rescue.
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    nfanel wrote:
    Helen,
    I don't think anyone has mentioned the idea that Ben is taking different forms (though I can't remember every post in the 105 pages here :p). That's an interesting theory!
    well the fact that she said Ben was getting to her...even though it wasn't ben it was the therapist... that's how it seemed to me... that ben was somehow getting to her by pretending to be the therapist... so nobody knows if what they're saying is actually real... cos it's all Ben. Perhaps none of the 'reality' is real... the 'rescue' could be something similar.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    chromiam wrote:
    Cool article about the possibilities of the final members of the Oceanic 6. I don't think Aaron is included in that group since he wasn't born or on the manifest of Oceanic 815.
    http://tv.ign.com/articles/859/859071p1.html

    That said, I'm more interested in the other 2 who got off the island but apparently died before rescue.
    I believe the final 2 to be Sun and Jin. Aaron was not on the manifest therefore not part of the Oceanic 6.
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    dirtyT wrote:
    I believe the final 2 to be Sun and Jin. Aaron was not on the manifest therefore not part of the Oceanic 6.
    I really don't think that should make a difference. Can you imagine 6 and a baby being rescued... they're not gonna call the 'group' the oceanic 6... and a baby. The number would be however many they got back... I'd imagine.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    so can we assume that Ben can appear in different places as different people? Maybe he appeared as Walt cos he knew Locke wouldn't listen to him that time. And he appeared as the therapist in last weeks one... cos it was she who told Juliette to go find them but later Juliette said that Ben was telling her what to do. Sorry if this has been said or seemed obvious to everyone but I haven't really been following the thread... thought you were too far ahead but you're only a few days.

    I just think that Ben and a select few of the Others know about the electromagentic sickness that affected Desmond and Rousseau's crew and can prevent it from affecting them.

    We've so far seen Ben, Ethan and Richard on and off the island. And we also saw how Richard put that powder in Juliet's oj before she traveled to the island that knocked her unconscious and she awoke just as the sub arrived on the island.

    As for Harper last week, I still think Ben has a way of communicating with the Others or had a contingency plan in place. And Locke was keeping Ben in his own house as a prisoner. I'm sure there are a lot of secrets in that house that Locke doesn't know about.

    I think more will be explained when Richard appears after the break. He has been confirmed by the producers to returning to the show for at least an episode or two this season.
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    Good point. You got me. I was watching the Season 3 Finale again over the weekend while hungover and that was fresher in my mind than this season.

    Score one for AC. ;)

    Score one?? I didn't realize this was a game or competition? :confused:
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    thossy wrote:
    Locke definitely has some sort of connection but to me there are two thigns he's always searching for

    He's looking for someone to guide him and something to have faith/believe in.

    Whether it be his dad, the commune, jack (if my s1 memories are correct), jacob, or taller ghost walt it doesnt really matter.



    ah this show is so great it drives me insane.

    I totally agree with you on this. It's like Locke NEEDS to have something to believe in (hence the Man of Faith thing). It also seems like, to me at least, this is his "achilles heel"??

    And...well said...this show is so good it also drives ME insane. Seriously, it does. :D
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Score one?? I didn't realize this was a game or competition? :confused:

    Must be an East Coast vs. West Coast thing. By saying score one, I just meant good job not tallying points. ;)
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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    I really don't think that should make a difference. Can you imagine 6 and a baby being rescued... they're not gonna call the 'group' the oceanic 6... and a baby. The number would be however many they got back... I'd imagine.
    yes, it is a good point, but I thought the preview said th final 2 will be revealed. Maybe Aaron was hid somehow when he got off. Guess we'll see!!!
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    dirtyT wrote:
    yes, it is a good point, but I thought the preview said th final 2 will be revealed. Maybe Aaron was hid somehow when he got off. Guess we'll see!!!
    ah ok, I haven't seen the preview :o
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    ah ok, I haven't seen the preview :o
    I agree with what you said, it shouldn't matter. That is why I think maybe they hid the existance of Aaron somehow when they got off.
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