Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    dirtyT wrote:
    Desmond and Juliette didn't have a flash back, although I think the possibility of these 2 not having one is not very good.

    Never said they did, but:

    Jack had the flash forward last season
    Hurley flash forward this season
    Sayid flash forward this season
    Kate flash forward this season

    Now I'm guessing since tptb said the last of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed tonight is that Sun and Jin have a flash forward tonight and be shown as the last of the Oceanic 6.

    Btw, I'm also starting to think that we all misinterpreted the previews to Kate's episode earlier this year. The preview said the next member of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed. And since we all saw Kate in Jack's flash forward and had heard Hurley mention the Oceanic 6 in his episode, we put one and one together and automatically counted Kate as part of the Oceanic 6. Theoretically she wasn't officially revealed as one until her episode. So therefore the preview was right and we did meet the next member of the Oceanic 6 - Kate. And by that train of thought that makes Turnip Head not a member and leaves us with only 4 members revealed until tonight.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    Btw, I'm also starting to think that we all misinterpreted the previews to Kate's episode earlier this year. The preview said the next member of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed. And since we all saw Kate in Jack's flash forward and had heard Hurley mention the Oceanic 6 in his episode, we put one and one together and automatically counted Kate as part of the Oceanic 6. Theoretically she wasn't officially revealed as one until her episode. So therefore the preview was right and we did meet the next member of the Oceanic 6 - Kate. And by that train of thought that makes Turnip Head not a member and leaves us with only 4 members revealed until tonight.

    :shakes head: HUH????
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    dirtyT wrote:
    I am pretty sure the previews said the final 2 would be known.
    Thats what I recall.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Score one?? I didn't realize this was a game or competition? :confused:
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    :shakes head: HUH????

    What I'm saying is we all counted Kate as part of the Oceanic 6 before the TPTB actually said she was officially a member. So when they had the preview saying the next member was going to be revealed on Kate's episode, most us took the leap and counted Aaron as part of the Oceanic 6 whereupon the answer was much simpler - just Kate was a member.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Poncier wrote:
    Everything in life is a competition...don't ever forget that.

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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    What I'm saying is we all counted Kate as part of the Oceanic 6 before the TPTB actually said she was officially a member. So when they had the preview saying the next member was going to be revealed on Kate's episode, most us took the leap and counted Aaron as part of the Oceanic 6 whereupon the answer was much simpler - just Kate was a member.

    I don't understand why you're generalizing that all of us thought so??? LOL. That was mighty egocentric of you! LOL :p
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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Solat13 wrote:
    Never said they did, but:

    Jack had the flash forward last season
    Hurley flash forward this season
    Sayid flash forward this season
    Kate flash forward this season

    Now I'm guessing since tptb said the last of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed tonight is that Sun and Jin have a flash forward tonight and be shown as the last of the Oceanic 6.

    Btw, I'm also starting to think that we all misinterpreted the previews to Kate's episode earlier this year. The preview said the next member of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed. And since we all saw Kate in Jack's flash forward and had heard Hurley mention the Oceanic 6 in his episode, we put one and one together and automatically counted Kate as part of the Oceanic 6. Theoretically she wasn't officially revealed as one until her episode. So therefore the preview was right and we did meet the next member of the Oceanic 6 - Kate. And by that train of thought that makes Turnip Head not a member and leaves us with only 4 members revealed until tonight.


    Yes I agree. About Kate's episode, I hope no one thinks I am being anal or over analyzing everting, but I think this show gives us clues and chooses it's words very carefully, which is why i want to point this out to you all and gets your thoughts,the previews did not say another "oceanic 6" will be revealed, it said "another survivior" will be revealed, which makes me think that Aaron is not part of the Oceanic 6 and maybe like I said earlier was hidden when they got off somehow. Maybe they get off and Aaron stays, and one day Ben shows up on Kates door with Aaronj. I think we automatically assume he gets off with the Kate, but maybe he doesn't.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    I don't understand why you're generalizing that all of us thought so??? LOL. That was mighty egocentric of you! LOL :p

    I wrote down that most of us thought that. I guess you didn't see that. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    dirtyT wrote:
    Maybe they get off and Aaron stays, and one day Ben shows up on Kates door with Aaronj. I think we automatically assume he gets off with the Kate, but maybe he doesn't.

    Hmm...good point! Never thought of that!! Also, I read on another board that maybe viewers should just assume that he's the "same" Aaron as Claire's baby, i.e. Maybe he IS Kate's biological son??
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:

    Btw, I'm also starting to think that WE ALL misinterpreted the previews to Kate's episode earlier this year. The preview said the next member of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed. And since WE ALL saw Kate in Jack's flash forward and had heard Hurley mention the Oceanic 6 in his episode, WE put one and one together and automatically counted Kate as part of the Oceanic 6. Theoretically she wasn't officially revealed as one until her episode. So therefore the preview was right and WE did meet the next member of the Oceanic 6 - Kate. And by that train of thought that makes Turnip Head not a member and leaves us with only 4 members revealed until tonight.

    Hmm...maybe didn't see these? :rolleyes:
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Hmm...good point! Never thought of that!! Also, I read on another board that maybe viewers should just assume that he's the "same" Aaron as Claire's baby, i.e. Maybe he IS Kate's biological son??
    Nah... he's blonde enough to 'prove' he's Claires :D
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    Nah... he's blonde enough to 'prove' he's Claires :D

    HAHAHAHA! Hmm...point well taken. ;):D
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Hmm...maybe didn't see these? :rolleyes:

    Which is why I changed it in my 2nd post. ;)

    And I was more referring to when the episode when it first aired and our discussion right afterwards when we (everyone online at the time) thought Aaron was the 5th member. ;)

    We even had jokes about Vincent being the 6th member. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    What I'm saying is we all counted Kate as part of the Oceanic 6 before the TPTB actually said she was officially a member. So when they had the preview saying the next member was going to be revealed on Kate's episode, most us took the leap and counted Aaron as part of the Oceanic 6 whereupon the answer was much simpler - just Kate was a member.

    I never counted Aaron as one of the 6, and always counted Kate as one of the 6. However, I'm not quite as anal as some about what is said during previews and commercials ;)

    I'm more interested in the 2, who unlike the 6, don't make it back to civilization.
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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    chromiam wrote:
    I never counted Aaron as one of the 6, and always counted Kate as one of the 6. However, I'm not quite as anal as some about what is said during previews and commercials ;)

    I'm more interested in the 2, who unlike the 6, don't make it back to civilization.
    I know, I hate those people!!
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  • AllIAm
    AllIAm Posts: 1,309
    fowls wrote:
    I don't see how the person on the boat could be anyone other than michael. That "You're going to have to sit down" comment Ben made pretty much sealed the deal, and well with michael definitely popping up in the next 2 episodes it's the only way he can get in.

    As for ghost Walt, isn't the Smoke monster thing only ever appear as people dressed in black or as a black animal? I think ghost walt is probably connected to jacob in some way. He's obviusly not affiliated with Ben since Ben is mocking Locke's attempts at following leads, so maybe Walt has somehow communicated with jacob and was acting as the go between? Afterall, Jacob doesn't seem to like Ben at all and Ben could be mocking out of fear that Jacob has switched sides. Of course, that's all pretty much wild speculation. Not really enough info on Walt or jacob to make any real predictions.

    i still want to see my theory of it being libby or ana lucia on the boat. i dont care if we saw them die man.. ben has tricked us before.. he can do it again. and what a mindfuck would that be when you are expecting to see michael and boom its one of them. well ana lucia is probably a no because she was in jail. but libby.. they even said that she would come back to us... i dunno..

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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    AllIAm wrote:
    i still want to see my theory of it being libby or ana lucia on the boat. i dont care if we saw them die man.. ben has tricked us before.. he can do it again. and what a mindfuck would that be when you are expecting to see michael and boom its one of them. well ana lucia is probably a no because she was in jail. but libby.. they even said that she would come back to us... i dunno..

    a girl can dream can't she
    Who knows. We never actually saw them bury Ana Lucia. Maybe the whole time travel thing will come into play with Libby being alive somehow. Maybe she timed travelled out of her body like Desmond did, before she was shot, or maybe after she was shot and lying there comatose...hhhmmmm
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  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    AllIAm wrote:
    and what a mindfuck would that be when you are expecting to see michael and boom its one of them.
    boom is the man on the boat? :eek:

    sorry, read that too quick. :D

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