Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Solat13 wrote:
    But, why would his death have broken Jack up so much?

    If Jack feels (right or wrong) that he is responsible for Michael's death, similiar to why he wouldn't want to see Aaron, because if Claire died and he felt responsible.
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    AllIAm wrote:
    no i dont think it does explain why kate wouldnt go. these people are being threatened to keep their mouths shut. they have to do what is said or else they face some bad consequences.

    what if they are offing the oceanic 6. hurley went nuts and all of a sudden scary man showed up to ask questions and hurley was scared shitless.. well what if hurley ends up dead later on.. and then someone else.. maybe sayid.. i dunno.. so when michael turns up dead it pushes jack over the edge.. he almost kills himself cause he knows he's probably next. kate didnt go to the funeral cause she can't risk it. shes got aaron. she can't be seen as cracking like jack is.

    Actually I think Hurley going nuts has more to do with being off the island (i.e. Minkowski's headache's) and the need of a constant to keep his sanity more than anything else. I think that whoever is in the coffin committed suicide (if I remember correctly) because of the effects of being off the island (ie time shift or travel) and not having a constant. The timeframe in which these symptoms occur may vary from person to person but I think Jack, Hurley, and the others will come to fear this and it will be a catalyst for Jack's wanting to return to the island.

    Hope some of that makes sense :D
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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    Sun saying she wished he was there and not coming right out saying, "I wish you weren't dead." is not enough to convince me he is still alive. Most people who would talk to a grave wouldn't say, "I wish you weren't dead.", they would do just what Sun did.
    true, he is not dead though...IMO!
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    rrivers wrote:
    Sun saying she wished he was there and not coming right out saying, "I wish you weren't dead." is not enough to convince me he is still alive. Most people who would talk to a grave wouldn't say, "I wish you weren't dead.", they would do just what Sun did.

    Well if Widmore is behind the freighter, Paik industries and Widmore have ties. Would it be inconceivable that Sun's dad somehow separated his daughter from Jin and made him be left behind while "rescuing" his daughter on Widmore's freighter.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    damn
    that was an intense episode

    too friggin sad

    bring back the polar bears and the fist fights please

    between "Penny is that really you"
    and the birth of Jin's baby, I am all out of kleenex

    Kate
    Hurley
    Sun
    Jack

    4 of the 6
  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    chromiam wrote:
    Actually I think Hurley going nuts has more to do with being off the island (i.e. Minkowski's headache's) and the need of a constant to keep his sanity more than anything else. I think that whoever is in the coffin committed suicide (if I remember correctly) because of the effects of being off the island (ie time shift or travel) and not having a constant. The timeframe in which these symptoms occur may vary from person to person but I think Jack, Hurley, and the others will come to fear this and it will be a catalyst for Jack's wanting to return to the island.

    Hope some of that makes sense :D

    Very astute. What if Claire stayed on the island to be Aaron's constant? What if Jin stayed behind to be Sun's (assuming that he really isn't dead), I started to say that Sawyer stayed behind to be Kate's, but they would have had to know each previously, right? O.K. now I'm getting myself confused again.
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Solat13 wrote:
    Well if Widmore is behind the freighter, Paik industries and Widmore have ties. Would it be inconceivable that Sun's dad somehow separated his daughter from Jin and made him be left behind while "rescuing" his daughter on Widmore's freighter.

    It's conceivable, just as many other things are. Sun's reaction at the gravesite makes it conceivable that he is dead.
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Get_Right wrote:

    bring back the polar bears and the fist fights please

    Kate
    Hurley
    Sun
    Jack

    4 of the 6
    Sayid makes five out of six...I too miss the Polar bears. :(
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  • AllNiteThing
    AllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    Ok, I'm an idiot. What made Jin's scenes a flashback? I know when he got to the hospital, they said it was a boy and all those people were guarding her. Did she have a baby prior to meeting Jin and that's what that scene was all about? Also, when she was having Ji Yeon, didn't she say for them to call her husband, Jin? If he was dead/still on the island, then why would she say that???? I'm all confused.
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Ok, I'm an idiot. What made Jin's scenes a flashback? I know when he got to the hospital, they said it was a boy and all those people were guarding her. Did she have a baby prior to meeting Jin and that's what that scene was all about? Also, when she was having Ji Yeon, didn't she say for them to call her husband, Jin? If he was dead/still on the island, then why would she say that???? I'm all confused.

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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Ok, I'm an idiot. What made Jin's scenes a flashback? I know when he got to the hospital, they said it was a boy and all those people were guarding her. Did she have a baby prior to meeting Jin and that's what that scene was all about? Also, when she was having Ji Yeon, didn't she say for them to call her husband, Jin? If he was dead/still on the island, then why would she say that???? I'm all confused.
    He said he had only been marroed for 2 months is one clue. The second was the fact that she was at her grave sight. The only way his was a flash forward is if Sun's dad had Jin hoax his death because he is pissed at Jin for trying to take his daughter to USA and ended up almost killing her in a plane crash, and is making him continue to work for him to pay off his debt.....but I don't think that is then case.
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  • AllNiteThing
    AllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    AmentsChick wrote:
    When he told the nurse, "I've only been married 2 months".


    Was he married before Sun? It was Sun in the hospital when Jin delivered the panda, right? If so, was this a previous child she had?
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    tybird wrote:
    Sayid makes five out of six...I too miss the Polar bears. :(
    right I forgot about the Sayid episode
  • AllNiteThing
    AllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    dirtyT wrote:
    He said he had only been marroed for 2 months is one clue.

    How is that a clue? Again, I'm an idiot. :D Help me out.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Ok, I'm an idiot. What made Jin's scenes a flashback? I know when he got to the hospital, they said it was a boy and all those people were guarding her. Did she have a baby prior to meeting Jin and that's what that scene was all about? Also, when she was having Ji Yeon, didn't she say for them to call her husband, Jin? If he was dead/still on the island, then why would she say that???? I'm all confused.

    The store keeper said year of the dragon is when I figured it out.

    I was born in the year of the snake 1977 - one year after the year of the dragon. Chinese years are every 12 years. So the year of the dragon is 1976, 1988 and 2000. So this flashback happened sometime during the year 2000.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Was he married before Sun? It was Sun in the hospital when Jin delivered the panda, right? If so, was this a previous child she had?

    I dont think so, I think that was flashback to an earlier event right after he married Sun and Im guessing, giving a gift to the ambassador was part of his new job (perhaps Suns father had something to do with that).

    At first< I thought that was after they had returned, especially when he laid that wad of cash out for the second panda, but it was a boy, the woman was not sun, and yes, he did say I have only been married two months


    but what about the dates on jin's tombstone 1974 and 1980?????
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Was he married before Sun? It was Sun in the hospital when Jin delivered the panda, right? If so, was this a previous child she had?

    No, he wasn't married before Sun. And, no it wasn't Sun in the hospital. He was visiting a "work associate's" wife and delivering the panda to her...on behalf of Paik Automotive (hence the BLUE bow).
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Get_Right wrote:
    I dont think so, I think that was flashback to an earlier event right after he married Sun and Im guessing, giving a gift to the ambassador was part of his new job (perhaps Suns father had something to do with that).

    At first< I thought that was after they had returned, especially when he laid that wad of cash out for the second panda, but it was a boy, the woman was not sun, and yes, he did say I have only been married two months


    but waht about the dates on jin's tombstone 1974 and 1980?????

    11/27/74 is when Jin was born and he "died" on 9/22/04.

    Sun was born was on 3/20/80 and the date of death is left blank.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
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    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    Solat13 wrote:
    11/27/74 is when Jin was born and he "died" on 9/22/04.

    Sun was born was on 3/20/80 and the date of death is left blank.


    ahhhhh
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    Solat13 wrote:
    Well if Widmore is behind the freighter, Paik industries and Widmore have ties. Would it be inconceivable that Sun's dad somehow separated his daughter from Jin and made him be left behind while "rescuing" his daughter on Widmore's freighter.
    Much like Widmore trying to keep Desmond from Penny...2 like minded businessmen.
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