The AET Soccer/Football Thread

Pearl Juli

soapyrows wrote:

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh i LOVE michael ballack!!!!!!!! anyone who has seen him play...........i'm sooooooooo jealous!!

I think he's either way overrated, or he hasn't shown much on the World Cup. I guess I can't judge by the World Cup alone...maybe I should catch him playing at the club level and see what he does

Pearl Juli

brhf9 wrote:

their league seems strong, but i guess that made them too self-centered...

True. Their league seems to be growing rapidly in importance and quality, and now they're even playing the Libertadores... (which by the way, I think should have a name change, Libertadores as far as I know is about South America and the South American "liberators" lol...if they're gonna bring North America into the equation, better change the name or something
*PURE RANDOM SENSELESS RANT THIS IS* hehe.)

Although, like you said, it is getting to their heads... haha.

Klumpie

AxlUlrich wrote:

reports claim Kuyt will be a Liverpool player within the next 48 hours!!!!!!

but Kromkamp looks to be on his way to PSV..I wish he stayed to prove himself cos I don't think the fans got to see the best from him.

I think it's better for Kromkamp to come back to Holland, in Holland we know how to use him. And it's almost for sure Kuyt will move to Liverpool, for both sides a great deal.

caifan82

Pearl_Juli wrote:

Right now I was having a heated discussion on the myspace FIFA World Cup 2006 thread with a Mexican dude who supports Chivas... :rolleyes: He was talking all kinds of $h!t about how Boca Jrs. sucked..and so did Velez. Of course, I think I defended my team pretty well and presented the kid with the well known facts, that in brief indicated that Boca is a World Class team and that Chivas has nothing on it. And yes...surprisingly, I found myself defending Velez Sarsfield as well and stating that even River Plate was a better team than Chivas...lmao. YIKES! :eek:

Well, I saw a Boca - Chivas game from the Copa Libertadores, in Argentina where Chivas won 4 - 0. And let me tell you that Boca Jrs looked like everything BUT a World Class team. It was actually pretty sad to see.

caifan82

Pearl_Juli wrote:

which by the way, I think should have a name change, Libertadores as far as I know is about South America and the South American "liberators" lol...if they're gonna bring North America into the equation, better change the name or something
*PURE RANDOM SENSELESS RANT THIS IS* hehe.)

Why? We also had "libertadores"... Miguel Hidalgo, Morelos, Vicente Guerrero?

Pearl Juli

caifan82 wrote:

Well, I saw a Boca - Chivas game from the Copa Libertadores, in Argentina where Chivas won 4 - 0. And let me tell you that Boca Jrs looked like everything BUT a World Class team. It was actually pretty sad to see.

I know. I watched that game too. That had to be the WORST Boca game ever at the international level. It was very disappointing. I remember watching it and it was like, dude! those Chivas people are just randomly kickin' the ball from outside the area and they always find the net! Those little turds! LOL! It was pretty...unbelievable. Those guys have some good aim, lol.

Pearl Juli

caifan82 wrote:

Why? We also had "libertadores"... Miguel Hidalgo, Morelos, Vicente Guerrero?

Yeah, but it's supposed to be Libertadores as in San Martin, Bolivar... South Americans...it's supposed to be a South American cup. They could change the name and bring in Mexico and USA teams as well, and make it clear it's no longer a SA cup exclusively, know what I mean?

But anyway, like I said, it was a "pure random senseless rant" nothing to take into further discussion really... lol

caifan82

Pearl_Juli wrote:

Yeah, but it's supposed to be Libertadores as in San Martin, Bolivar... South Americans...it's supposed to be a South American cup. They could change the name and bring in Mexico and USA teams as well, and make it clear it's no longer a SA cup exclusively, know what I mean?

Yuck, why do you want USA teams in the Libertadores? Well, I guess some cannon fodder would be a nice points boost for the rest of the teams.

Pearl Juli

caifan82 wrote:

Yuck, why do you want USA teams in the Libertadores? Well, I guess some cannon fodder would be a nice points boost for the rest of the teams.

haha, I don't know, we might as well add them too That could help make USA and its sucky MLS teams better and more competitive

Towerman

they should make the qualifiers for the WC with only one America unified... Mexico and USA have it so easy, that's why they always maket it to the WC.

and besides, that way more South America countries will qualify...

caifan82

Towerman wrote:

they should make the qualifiers for the WC with only one America unified... Mexico and USA have it so easy, that's why they always maket it to the WC.

and besides, that way more South America countries will qualify...

Well, I'm not sure about that. Maybe 1 more country from South America would make it.

I think if it was America unified with, say 8 spots, the teams that would make the WC would be:
- Brazil
- Argentina
- Mexico
- USA
and 4 other South American countries. Maybe include Uruguay if they ever wake up. I think those 4 are currently the best 4 American countries at football.

Towerman

caifan82 wrote:

Well, I'm not sure about that. Maybe 1 more country from South America would make it.

I think if it was America unified with, say 8 spots, the teams that would make the WC would be:
- Brazil
- Argentina
- Mexico
- USA
and 4 other South American countries. Maybe include Uruguay if they ever wake up. I think those 4 are currently the best 4 American countries at football.

I don't see the USA being better than most of South America, I think in the whole continent Brazil and Argentina are clearly above the rest, then comes Mexico, Uruguay, Paraguay, Colombia, Ecuador, Chile, USA, Peru... one better than the other maybe but basically not BIG diferences, and after them comes Bolivia, Venezuela and all of Central America and the islands.
If it's 8 spots to the WC then it would be 6 for South America(could be 7 if they leave out the USA) and Mexico would be no doubt the only team from Concacaf that would qualify clearly.

I could see why Mexico would not want the actual format to change, playing against Guatemala, Honduras, Trinidad, Cuba, Salvador,etc is a smooth route to the WC but in a long run I believe that it could be beneficial for them too, to play against South AMerica because that way they'd get used to face more harder competition. I even remember reading an article where Chivas players were saying this, that for them it has been incredible to play against teams like Sao Paulo or Boca Juniors because of the experienced they've gained and all, besides they seem to do very well.

caifan82

Towerman wrote:

I don't see the USA being better than most of South America, I think in the whole continent Brazil and Argentina are clearly above the rest, then comes Mexico, Uruguay, Paraguay, Colombia, Ecuador, Chile, USA, Peru... one better than the other maybe but basically not BIG diferences, and after them comes Bolivia, Venezuela and all of Central America.
If it's 8 spots to the WC then it would be 6 for South America(could be 7 if they leave out the USA) and Mexico would be no doubt the only team from Concacaf that would qualify clearly.

Yeah, I guess I can agree with that.

Towerman wrote:

I could see why Mexico would not want the actual format to change, playing against Guatemala, Honduras, Trinidad, Cuba, Salvador,etc is a smooth route to the WC but in a long run I believe that it could be beneficial for them too, to play against South AMerica because that way they'd get used to face more harder competition. I even remember reading an article where Chivas players were saying this, that for them it has been incredible to play against teams like Sao Paulo or Boca Juniors because of the experienced they've gained and all, besides they seem to do very well.

I agree with this too. I would love an all-american format. I don't think it makes Mexico any good to play against teams like Granada or St Kitts & Nevis. I don't think Mexico would have many problems getting the 3rd-4th spot in this type of competition and the players would play against way better teams.
I totally support this idea actually.

elmer

Ive always seen mexico as being part of south america, are they technically in n america? i was aware that they play their quals with the n american clubs

elmer

AxlUlrich wrote:

reports claim Kuyt will be a Liverpool player within the next 48 hours!!!!!!

but Kromkamp looks to be on his way to PSV..I wish he stayed to prove himself cos I don't think the fans got to see the best from him.

anything over 5mill for this kuyt I see as being a big risk....he didnt impress me during the w cup and surely Bellamy is the main man now, really looking forward to seeing him this season, he's a top player. I'd actually rather him than shevchenko who is a finisher but lacks the pace of a bellamy
............as for kromkamp, I think benitez has to be trusted here, he failed to impress or show much potential as he had done elsewhere apparently and they will lose £s if he does the same this season and beni decides to then move him on................has anyone seen this chilean play???? called gonzalez I think..............whatever reckon that the title will be a close run this time with chelsea, if ballack hadnt gone there Id tip the mighty reds but its just too close to call.....................reckon arsenal in 3rd and man u clasping for 4th

AxlUlrich

elmer wrote:

has anyone seen this chilean play???? called gonzalez I think..............

yeh seen Mark Gonzalez play afew times for Real Sociedad..looks a good player..kinda reminds me of Kewell in his Leeds days.

ladygooddiva

mmhhhh nice guy;)


anyways tommorow hsv officialls say if baros comes or not ...

oh and another nedderland is eyed for us...

ladygooddiva

it seems that the baros deal is gone ...

and deems like HSV will have maybe than 4 dutch players in the squad ...

H Holländischer /Hamburger
S Sport
V Verein

caifan82

elmer wrote:

Ive always seen mexico as being part of south america, are they technically in n america? i was aware that they play their quals with the n american clubs

Not technically... geographically Mexico is in North America. It's that big mass of land just under the US. You can see it's above the equator, at the level of the tropic of Cancer... That makes it North America.

brhf9

read the Cannavaro is a Real Madrid player already.

and that Arsenal and Real might trade Fabregas for Julio Baptista e Robinho and an amount of money.

this offseason news are running wild...