I love this move. Vasquez as a mid rotation guy is huge. Its very sad to see Melky go but he was never part of the Yankees long term plans. Arodys Vizcaino is a pretty big prospect so I hate to see him go but I love the Yankees rotation next season.
I love this move. Vasquez as a mid rotation guy is huge. Its very sad to see Melky go but he was never part of the Yankees long term plans. Arodys Vizcaino is a pretty big prospect so I hate to see him go but I love the Yankees rotation next season.
That's pretty huge. I'd put Vasquez above Burnette. Isn't he a free agent after this year? With that said, I'm sure he won't go anywhere.
I think they will keep Burnett #2 especially with a year in NY under his belt, keep some pressure off Vasquez after last time around. Some consider Vasquez the Yanks 4th starter.
Yeah, he is a FA next year. If they want him back they will pay him, if not next years FA class is pretty impressive.
Melky was carrying us for a while last year,I wish him well....hopefully he'll be a pain in the ass for the ny mess for years to come
still think bosox staff is a lil better
their offense doesn't scare me though
Yeah, its tough to see Melky go after this past year. For a while he was the guy you wanted up with the game on the line. Wish him all the best, but this team is better with Vasquez rather than Melky.
I think the Yanks and Boston's staff are a toss up. Yanks are now just as deep, each have 6 starters going into Spring Training right now.
Yankees:
CC
AJ
Pettitte
Vasquez
Hughes
Joba
Boston:
Beckett
Lester
Lackey
Dice K
Wakefield
Buccholz
SWEET. Bring back the guy that gave up the granny to Johnny Damon in game 7 of the the '04 ALCS!!!
Seriously, I'm a HUGE Javi Vazquez sympathizer. As a stat/fantasy nerd, I love the guy and always end up drafitng him in my roto leagues before anyone else as his underlying numbers always had me thinking he was destined for something great, and I rode him in ALL my leagues last year to a great season ... feel he's always been undervalued in that realm.
That said, there's something about his AL performance over the years that would have me a tad concerned.
He had a nice spike in ground balls allowed last year, he'll need to keep that up at home next year.
Probably going to be a good move for the Yanks ... admit I'd rather have him on the Sox.
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SWEET. Bring back the guy that gave up the granny to Johnny Damon in game 7 of the the '04 ALCS!!!
Seriously, I'm a HUGE Javi Vazquez sympathizer. As a stat/fantasy nerd, I love the guy and always end up drafitng him in my roto leagues before anyone else as his underlying numbers always had me thinking he was destined for something great, and I rode him in ALL my leagues last year to a great season ... feel he's always been undervalued in that realm.
That said, there's something about his AL performance over the years that would have me a tad concerned.
He had a nice spike in ground balls allowed last year, he'll need to keep that up at home next year.
Probably going to be a good move for the Yanks ... admit I'd rather have him on the Sox.
That pitch is why many yankees fans are crying about this trade today.
I personally love this trade like I said. The guy pitches 200 innings every year and strikes out a ton of guys. This time around he is at the back end of the rotation whereas in 2004 he was at the front. He had a great first half in 2004 and couldn't get his mechanics under control in the 2nd half then the Yankees made one of the worst trades I can remember. He took the wrath for the collapse.
Good to have him back and he makes this team a whole lot better than they were yesterday.
Props to Cashman this offseason as well. Brought in Granderson and Vasquez making this team better without losing Montero, Joba or Hughes. Well done Cashman.
i always liked melky alot. i remember what was his first or second game for the yanks. playing centerfield in fenway park, and he TOTALLY misplayed a ball and it ended up going over his head for an inside the park homerun. i think he was sent back down to the minors shortly after, and wondered if that was the last we would see of him.
this trade totally benefits the yanks, but melky was a really likeable personality, wish him the best in the NL. sad to see him go.
To me this trade is a no-brainer. Vazquez is among the more durable pitchers and is not old like Kevin Brown and Randy Johnson were at the time of their acquisitions. He's also in a contract year, so he'll probably pitch well and if you don't re-sign him, I'd think he'd be a Type A or Type B free agent, so at the worst you don't re-sign him and get at least one draft pick. Now, what makes it more intriguing is left field. When they acquired Granderson, the assumption was Cabrera slides over to left and they don't re-sign Damon. Now there's an opening there because I don't see them making Brett Gardner an every day outfielder.
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After a disgusting display by the Giants there is one thing that can cheer me up...
I feel the same way, haha.
I'd much rather see the Yanks win than the Giants anyway... watching the Giants beat the Patriots gave me enough happiness to last a lifetime.
Anyway, it really was a shameful performance today. I mean, they had to win out to reach the playoffs, and it was the last game ever at Giants Stadium, and they played like the Redskins did last week. It's clear that they're a world apart from the Super Bowl team, and it's also clear that losing Burress affected the team tremendously.
After a disgusting display by the Giants there is one thing that can cheer me up...
I feel the same way, haha.
I'd much rather see the Yanks win than the Giants anyway... watching the Giants beat the Patriots gave me enough happiness to last a lifetime.
Anyway, it really was a shameful performance today. I mean, they had to win out to reach the playoffs, and it was the last game ever at Giants Stadium, and they played like the Redskins did last week. It's clear that they're a world apart from the Super Bowl team, and it's also clear that losing Burress affected the team tremendously.
I don't think not having Burress had anything to do with it. Eli is having his best passing year. And completion percentage. It's the defense that has been the problem.
I can't wait for spring training. I know they probably won't do this. But I'd like to see Brett Gardner play a full season. See how he does.
I don't think not having Burress had anything to do with it. Eli is having his best passing year. And completion percentage. It's the defense that has been the problem.
I can't wait for spring training. I know they probably won't do this. But I'd like to see Brett Gardner play a full season. See how he does.
Its unreal how far the defense has fallen. And Osi is gone more than likely, good chance AP is gone, sad to see these guys go after the Superbowl run. Going to be a different looking defense next year which is not necessarily a bad thing with how they played for the majority of this season.
Spring training is right around the corner...kind of. I hear you on Gardner, I dont think they will do it but I would not mind seeing him on a daily basis the more and more I think about it. I think he is a better option than the guys available besides Holliday. He has a decent OBP and obviously has lots of speed. Not bad for the 9 hole. I would still like them to give the Damon negotiations one more chance, but i dont see that happening.
I like this, Montero is the 5th best prospect in all of baseball according to Baseball America and well ahead of some pretty big names, including the Red Sox prized possession.
5. Jesus Montero, c/dh, Yankees
WHY HE’S HERE: The minors’ best hitter, Montero gets compared to Mike Piazza as a catcher whose hitting tools far outstrip his defense. However, the Yankees don’t see him as Jorge Posada’s heir, because his defense is on par with Piazza’s or worse.
WHAT HE’LL BE: Because he’s likely to move out from behind the plate, Montero should be a first baseman or DH primarily. Other ex-catchers with premium bats such as Paul Konerko and Carlos Delgado leap to mind.
WHEN HE ARRIVES: New York’s offseason moves will dictate whether Montero spends all season at Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre or moves up to the big leagues as a part-time catcher and DH.
I like this, Montero is the 5th best prospect in all of baseball according to Baseball America and well ahead of some pretty big names, including the Red Sox prized possession.
5. Jesus Montero, c/dh, Yankees
WHY HE’S HERE: The minors’ best hitter, Montero gets compared to Mike Piazza as a catcher whose hitting tools far outstrip his defense. However, the Yankees don’t see him as Jorge Posada’s heir, because his defense is on par with Piazza’s or worse.
WHAT HE’LL BE: Because he’s likely to move out from behind the plate, Montero should be a first baseman or DH primarily. Other ex-catchers with premium bats such as Paul Konerko and Carlos Delgado leap to mind.
WHEN HE ARRIVES: New York’s offseason moves will dictate whether Montero spends all season at Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre or moves up to the big leagues as a part-time catcher and DH.
That's cause Kelly is young, and the real prizes of the Sox org. are at the big club already. Clay Buchholz being the big one.
There is no doubt the Yankees have gotten smarter, but where is this kid gonna play if he can't catch? posada will be your DH, and tex is your 1b. For a few seasons at least.
I like this, Montero is the 5th best prospect in all of baseball according to Baseball America and well ahead of some pretty big names, including the Red Sox prized possession.
5. Jesus Montero, c/dh, Yankees
WHY HE’S HERE: The minors’ best hitter, Montero gets compared to Mike Piazza as a catcher whose hitting tools far outstrip his defense. However, the Yankees don’t see him as Jorge Posada’s heir, because his defense is on par with Piazza’s or worse.
WHAT HE’LL BE: Because he’s likely to move out from behind the plate, Montero should be a first baseman or DH primarily. Other ex-catchers with premium bats such as Paul Konerko and Carlos Delgado leap to mind.
WHEN HE ARRIVES: New York’s offseason moves will dictate whether Montero spends all season at Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre or moves up to the big leagues as a part-time catcher and DH.
That's cause Kelly is young, and the real prizes of the Sox org. are at the big club already. Clay Buchholz being the big one.
There is no doubt the Yankees have gotten smarter, but where is this kid gonna play if he can't catch? posada will be your DH, and tex is your 1b. For a few seasons at least.
Casey Kelly and Montero are basically the same age, Kelly is two months younger.
I still think the Yankees are trying to have him catch. At least at first and well enough to split time with Posada until he is done. They are only going to be on the same team for a year and a half at most. Montero still needs some time in triple a.
If Cervelli grows even more into the catcher position I don't see Montero getting much time anytime soon. That kid flat out plays hard and hustles. I'm hoping he is the #2 catcher this year rather then a emergency backup. From what I've read the management likes his approach with the pitchers, he's not afraid to give pointers to the veterans.
If Montero is that good of a hitter I would hope he learns to play an outfield position.
You can see the Yanks were planning well for Posada's eventual departure from behind the plate, plenty of prospects to fill in.
If Cervelli grows even more into the catcher position I don't see Montero getting much time anytime soon. That kid flat out plays hard and hustles. I'm hoping he is the #2 catcher this year rather then a emergency backup. From what I've read the management likes his approach with the pitchers, he's not afraid to give pointers to the veterans.
If Montero is that good of a hitter I would hope he learns to play an outfield position.
You can see the Yanks were planning well for Posada's eventual departure from behind the plate, plenty of prospects to fill in.
The Yankees really are stocked with catchers, Cervelli, Montero, Romine.
I do think that Cervelli is going to be the backup catcher coming into the season but I have to disagree with you on Cervelli playing more than Montero when he comes up. Cervelli cannot hit and is not going to be in the lineup over Montero even if he does handle the pitchers a bit better. The Yankees have a veteran pitching staff and they know what they are going to throw and when.
If Cervelli grows even more into the catcher position I don't see Montero getting much time anytime soon. That kid flat out plays hard and hustles. I'm hoping he is the #2 catcher this year rather then a emergency backup. From what I've read the management likes his approach with the pitchers, he's not afraid to give pointers to the veterans.
If Montero is that good of a hitter I would hope he learns to play an outfield position.
You can see the Yanks were planning well for Posada's eventual departure from behind the plate, plenty of prospects to fill in.
The Yankees really are stocked with catchers, Cervelli, Montero, Romine.
I do think that Cervelli is going to be the backup catcher coming into the season but I have to disagree with you on Cervelli playing more than Montero when he comes up. Cervelli cannot hit and is not going to be in the lineup over Montero even if he does handle the pitchers a bit better. The Yankees have a veteran pitching staff and they know what they are going to throw and when.
So the Yankees have a good problem at catcher! Montero needs to become a seasoned catcher, while Cervelli needs to become a better hitter. And if both improve where they need to, the Yanks will have a very difficult decision.
As far as the veteran pitching staff, sometimes they get stuck in their ways and need someone to point that out, and that is one place where Cervelli has not had a problem, he is not in awe of their star status.
Only time will tell which one will win out the position, or if the Yanks get greedy and bring in Mauer. Should be fun to watch.
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That's pretty huge. I'd put Vasquez above Burnette. Isn't he a free agent after this year? With that said, I'm sure he won't go anywhere.
I think they will keep Burnett #2 especially with a year in NY under his belt, keep some pressure off Vasquez after last time around. Some consider Vasquez the Yanks 4th starter.
Yeah, he is a FA next year. If they want him back they will pay him, if not next years FA class is pretty impressive.
Loving the Yanks rotation!
still think bosox staff is a lil better
their offense doesn't scare me though
Yeah, its tough to see Melky go after this past year. For a while he was the guy you wanted up with the game on the line. Wish him all the best, but this team is better with Vasquez rather than Melky.
I think the Yanks and Boston's staff are a toss up. Yanks are now just as deep, each have 6 starters going into Spring Training right now.
Yankees:
CC
AJ
Pettitte
Vasquez
Hughes
Joba
Boston:
Beckett
Lester
Lackey
Dice K
Wakefield
Buccholz
Seriously, I'm a HUGE Javi Vazquez sympathizer. As a stat/fantasy nerd, I love the guy and always end up drafitng him in my roto leagues before anyone else as his underlying numbers always had me thinking he was destined for something great, and I rode him in ALL my leagues last year to a great season ... feel he's always been undervalued in that realm.
That said, there's something about his AL performance over the years that would have me a tad concerned.
He had a nice spike in ground balls allowed last year, he'll need to keep that up at home next year.
Probably going to be a good move for the Yanks ... admit I'd rather have him on the Sox.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
That pitch is why many yankees fans are crying about this trade today.
I personally love this trade like I said. The guy pitches 200 innings every year and strikes out a ton of guys. This time around he is at the back end of the rotation whereas in 2004 he was at the front. He had a great first half in 2004 and couldn't get his mechanics under control in the 2nd half then the Yankees made one of the worst trades I can remember. He took the wrath for the collapse.
Good to have him back and he makes this team a whole lot better than they were yesterday.
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This can't be true.
Yep, not true.
i always liked melky alot. i remember what was his first or second game for the yanks. playing centerfield in fenway park, and he TOTALLY misplayed a ball and it ended up going over his head for an inside the park homerun. i think he was sent back down to the minors shortly after, and wondered if that was the last we would see of him.
this trade totally benefits the yanks, but melky was a really likeable personality, wish him the best in the NL. sad to see him go.
bring back damon!
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I'd much rather see the Yanks win than the Giants anyway... watching the Giants beat the Patriots gave me enough happiness to last a lifetime.
Anyway, it really was a shameful performance today. I mean, they had to win out to reach the playoffs, and it was the last game ever at Giants Stadium, and they played like the Redskins did last week. It's clear that they're a world apart from the Super Bowl team, and it's also clear that losing Burress affected the team tremendously.
I don't think not having Burress had anything to do with it. Eli is having his best passing year. And completion percentage. It's the defense that has been the problem.
I can't wait for spring training. I know they probably won't do this. But I'd like to see Brett Gardner play a full season. See how he does.
Its unreal how far the defense has fallen. And Osi is gone more than likely, good chance AP is gone, sad to see these guys go after the Superbowl run. Going to be a different looking defense next year which is not necessarily a bad thing with how they played for the majority of this season.
Spring training is right around the corner...kind of. I hear you on Gardner, I dont think they will do it but I would not mind seeing him on a daily basis the more and more I think about it. I think he is a better option than the guys available besides Holliday. He has a decent OBP and obviously has lots of speed. Not bad for the 9 hole. I would still like them to give the Damon negotiations one more chance, but i dont see that happening.
5. Jesus Montero, c/dh, Yankees
WHY HE’S HERE: The minors’ best hitter, Montero gets compared to Mike Piazza as a catcher whose hitting tools far outstrip his defense. However, the Yankees don’t see him as Jorge Posada’s heir, because his defense is on par with Piazza’s or worse.
WHAT HE’LL BE: Because he’s likely to move out from behind the plate, Montero should be a first baseman or DH primarily. Other ex-catchers with premium bats such as Paul Konerko and Carlos Delgado leap to mind.
WHEN HE ARRIVES: New York’s offseason moves will dictate whether Montero spends all season at Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre or moves up to the big leagues as a part-time catcher and DH.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=7425
There is no doubt the Yankees have gotten smarter, but where is this kid gonna play if he can't catch? posada will be your DH, and tex is your 1b. For a few seasons at least.
Casey Kelly and Montero are basically the same age, Kelly is two months younger.
I still think the Yankees are trying to have him catch. At least at first and well enough to split time with Posada until he is done. They are only going to be on the same team for a year and a half at most. Montero still needs some time in triple a.
If Montero is that good of a hitter I would hope he learns to play an outfield position.
You can see the Yanks were planning well for Posada's eventual departure from behind the plate, plenty of prospects to fill in.
The Yankees really are stocked with catchers, Cervelli, Montero, Romine.
I do think that Cervelli is going to be the backup catcher coming into the season but I have to disagree with you on Cervelli playing more than Montero when he comes up. Cervelli cannot hit and is not going to be in the lineup over Montero even if he does handle the pitchers a bit better. The Yankees have a veteran pitching staff and they know what they are going to throw and when.
So the Yankees have a good problem at catcher! Montero needs to become a seasoned catcher, while Cervelli needs to become a better hitter. And if both improve where they need to, the Yanks will have a very difficult decision.
As far as the veteran pitching staff, sometimes they get stuck in their ways and need someone to point that out, and that is one place where Cervelli has not had a problem, he is not in awe of their star status.
Only time will tell which one will win out the position, or if the Yanks get greedy and bring in Mauer. Should be fun to watch.