The 2009 New York Yankees Thread

igotid88

So which of our free agents do we bring back next year? I didn't want Abreu back. But I might me changing my mind. We've seen some good pitchers come out of the system. Phil Coke and Alfredo Aceves can be our long relievers. Possible spot starters. I know we can't depend too much on what they did in September. As for other free agents. There's no guarantee we'll get C.C. or Texeira.

2009 prediction 105-57

g under p

igotid88 wrote:

So which of our free agents do we bring back next year? I didn't want Abreu back. But I might me changing my mind. We've seen some good pitchers come out of the system. Phil Coke and Alfredo Aceves can be our long relievers. Possible spot starters. I know we can't depend too much on what they did in September. As for other free agents. There's no guarantee we'll get C.C. or Texeira.

2009 prediction 105-57

Cheer on in the new digs that seems like wishful thinking but good luck.

Peace

BetterThanYou

igotid88 wrote:

So which of our free agents do we bring back next year? I didn't want Abreu back. But I might me changing my mind. We've seen some good pitchers come out of the system. Phil Coke and Alfredo Aceves can be our long relievers. Possible spot starters. I know we can't depend too much on what they did in September. As for other free agents. There's no guarantee we'll get C.C. or Texeira.

2009 prediction 105-57

i'll go with that prediction if sabathia and texeira are donning pinstripes next season. if they aren't, god only knows how we'll do.

g under p

BetterThanYou wrote:

i'll go with that prediction if sabathia and texeira are donning pinstripes next season. if they aren't, god only knows how we'll do.

Sabathia appears to want to be in NYC however money talks and if more than enough is thrown his way he might just bite.

Peace

jimed14

BetterThanYou wrote:

i'll go with that prediction if sabathia and texeira are donning pinstripes next season. if they aren't, god only knows how we'll do.

Seeing as the Yanks probably won't pick up Pavano's $13M option, or Giambi's $22M option ... they will have some extra cash to spend ...

Should be intersting to see if they come in under $200M next year.

Solat13

jimed14 wrote:

Seeing as the Yanks probably won't pick up Pavano's $13M option, or Giambi's $22M option ... they will have some extra cash to spend ...

Should be intersting to see if they come in under $200M next year.

After doing some quick calculations on here:

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/new-york-yankees_111398168678860040.html

If you factor in the raises for A-Rod and Cano and the Yanks decline the options on Giambi, Pavano and Marte that gives the Yanks about 61 mil to spend if they are to match this year's payroll. Abreu, Pudge, Moose and Pettitte's contracts all expire this year.

Wobbie

Man! No rest for the Yankee backers :eek:

Is this the OFFICIAL thread?

igotid88

g under p wrote:

Cheer on in the new digs that seems like wishful thinking but good luck.

Peace

Just for that 106-56. I was gonna give you guys 1 win against us. But now it will be 18-0 against the Red Sox. hehe.

igotid88

imalive wrote:

Man! No rest for the Yankee backers :eek:

Is this the OFFICIAL thread?

Oui

g under p

igotid88 wrote:

Just for that 106-56. I was gonna give you guys 1 win against us. But now it will be 18-0 against the Red Sox. hehe.

Well Solat 13 might attest to this but the Rays will be a force, the Jays can be tough and the Red Sox will be there too. So that tells me the winner of the East will have in the low 90's in wins to take the division.

Everybody will beat up on each other therefore eliminating a team from dominating to point of winning over 100 victories.

Peace

igotid88

g under p wrote:

Well Solat 13 might attest to this but the Rays will be a force, the Jays can be tough and the Red Sox will be there too. So that tells me the winner of the East will have in the low 90's in wins to take the division.

Everybody will beat up on each other therefore eliminating a team from dominating to point of winning over 100 victories.

Peace

yea I know. It's like the NFC east.

Solat13

g under p wrote:

Well Solat 13 might attest to this but the Rays will be a force, the Jays can be tough and the Red Sox will be there too. So that tells me the winner of the East will have in the low 90's in wins to take the division.

Everybody will beat up on each other therefore eliminating a team from dominating to point of winning over 100 victories.

Peace

I don't only agree but so does Hank Steinbrenner:

"The biggest problem is the divisional setup in major league baseball. I didn't like it in the 1970s, and I hate it now," Steinbrenner wrote. "Baseball went to a multidivision setup to create more races, rivalries and excitement. But it isn't fair. You see it this season, with plenty of people in the media pointing out that Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while we're not."

"This is by no means a knock on Torre - let me make that clear-but look at the division they're in. If L.A. were in the AL East, it wouldn't be in the playoff discussion. The AL East is never weak."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/09/23/2008-09-23_hank_steinbrenner_rips_divisional_playof.html

igotid88

Solat13 wrote:

I don't only agree but so does Hank Steinbrenner:

"The biggest problem is the divisional setup in major league baseball. I didn't like it in the 1970s, and I hate it now," Steinbrenner wrote. "Baseball went to a multidivision setup to create more races, rivalries and excitement. But it isn't fair. You see it this season, with plenty of people in the media pointing out that Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while we're not."

"This is by no means a knock on Torre - let me make that clear-but look at the division they're in. If L.A. were in the AL East, it wouldn't be in the playoff discussion. The AL East is never weak."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/09/23/2008-09-23_hank_steinbrenner_rips_divisional_playof.html

Let's petition to have the Yankees move to the NL west. JK.

igotid88

Well Wang is only our confirmed starter come spring training. I know Joba will be there later in the season. And although they say Phil Hughes has to earn his spot. I'm sure he'll get there at some point. He'll either start in the bullpen or go to the minors. And come up if and when a pitcher goes down with an injury or is a bust. Pettitte does want to pitch in the new stadium. But not for 16 million bucks. Moose might come back if he's thinking about 300 wins. I know they say C.C. wants to come here. But he could also be using the Yankees for leverage. And get more money from NL west team. As for Texeira. Artie Moreno has a lot of dough as well.

Wilds

Don't like the Yankees, but would love to see Mussina hit 300 wins. With you or elsewhere.

One of the real good guys in baseball.

With his ERA, WHIP, and 300 Wins and 3000 K's he should make the HOF.

Here's to three more years and hitting those numbers with the Yankees.... or two more years somewhere else and better numbers.

xavier mcdaniel

Nady - i have no problem with him staying, could even move to right field if Abreu doesn't return.

Damon - will be back, i have no problems with him staying

Abreu - probably will not be back, could get a better contract elsewhere but wouldn't stun me or surprise me if he came back.

Giambi - probably will not be back but can be productive hitter, just shaky defensively and age.

Cano - not sure. might be trade bait. no longer an untouchable piece and his value might be high because potential trading partners might anticipate they'd be getting the cano of 2007.

Jeter - obviously

Rodriguez - obviously

Posada - as much as he is reluctant to do so, will have to play some first base.

Matsui - is old, but perhaps two surgerically repaired knees help him

Molina - no problem bringing him back, works well with pitchers

Rodriguez - isn't coming back, was merely a stop gap for Posada's injury

Cabrera/Gardner - can fight it out for the fourth outfielder job.

Betemit - does not have to return in spite of them playing "Betterman" for his first at-bat

Ransom - no problem with him on the bench, although you do wonder why a guy is his age and has so much minor league experience

Chamberlain - pick one role for him and don't screw around

Mussina - one-year deal with option

Pettitte - same thing

Pavano - get lost

Ponson - pass

Hughes - keep working on your slider and cut fastball and don't get hurt

Rasner - maybe a long man in the bullpen

Rivera - obviously

Veras - develop some more pitches

Bruney - can come back, was nasty since coming back

Coke - liked what I saw, but it's September

Marte - am willing to give a full season to

Ramirez - develop a better fastball

Aceves - like to see more since it's tough to judge off september (see Ian Kennedy for that)

igotid88

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Nady - i have no problem with him staying, could even move to right field if Abreu doesn't return.

Damon - will be back, i have no problems with him staying

Abreu - probably will not be back, could get a better contract elsewhere but wouldn't stun me or surprise me if he came back.

Giambi - probably will not be back but can be productive hitter, just shaky defensively and age.

Cano - not sure. might be trade bait. no longer an untouchable piece and his value might be high because potential trading partners might anticipate they'd be getting the cano of 2007.

Jeter - obviously

Rodriguez - obviously

Posada - as much as he is reluctant to do so, will have to play some first base.

Matsui - is old, but perhaps two surgerically repaired knees help him

Molina - no problem bringing him back, works well with pitchers

Rodriguez - isn't coming back, was merely a stop gap for Posada's injury

Cabrera/Gardner - can fight it out for the fourth outfielder job.

Betemit - does not have to return in spite of them playing "Betterman" for his first at-bat

Ransom - no problem with him on the bench, although you do wonder why a guy is his age and has so much minor league experience

Chamberlain - pick one role for him and don't screw around

Mussina - one-year deal with option

Pettitte - same thing

Pavano - get lost

Ponson - pass

Hughes - keep working on your slider and cut fastball and don't get hurt

Rasner - maybe a long man in the bullpen

Rivera - obviously

Veras - develop some more pitches

Bruney - can come back, was nasty since coming back

Coke - liked what I saw, but it's September

Marte - am willing to give a full season to

Ramirez - develop a better fastball

Aceves - like to see more since it's tough to judge off september (see Ian Kennedy for that)

Agree with most of this. But I don't know about Giambi. We do need more bats off the bench. He could be a Chili Davis or Ruben Sierra type. But I don't think he would want that. I've come around on Abreu and wouldn't mind bringing him back for 1 more year. But he's gonna want more years. Another reason they might not bring them back. Along with I-Rod is for the draft picks they'll get for them. As for Melky and Gardner. I think Gardner almost made the team in Spring Training. But Melky also had a good Spring. My guess is Melky is being dealt this winter. With Hughes. They keep tinkering with him too much. He's just learning the cut fastball. He'll continue working on it in the Arizona Fall League. Ramirez should learn the cutter from Mo. But I think he might be traded also. Since there a more relievers that are gonna come up. Like Mark Melancon. Rasner should go. I like Phil Coke. I know it's Spetember. But he's a left hander who throws mid 90's. Aceves can be a long reliever/spot starter. Same with Coke.

Wobbie

igotid88 wrote:

I like Phil Coke.

Not a Yankee fan...never heard of this guy (until now).....but, man, he would have been a perfect Met or Pirate in the mid 1980s!

xavier mcdaniel

imalive wrote:

Not a Yankee fan...never heard of this guy (until now).....but, man, he would have been a perfect Met or Pirate in the mid 1980s!

he'd be a perfect witness in the 1985 Pittsburgh drug trial that starred:

Dale Berra, Lee Lacy, Lee Mazzilli, John Milner, Dave Parker, Rod Scurry,Willie Mays Aikens, Vida Blue, Enos Cabell, Keith Hernandez, Jeffrey Leonard, Tim Raines, and Lonnie Smith.

ReleaseMe...

imalive wrote:

Not a Yankee fan...never heard of this guy (until now).....but, man, he would have been a perfect Met or Pirate in the mid 1980s!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

igotid88

Phil Hughes had a great game tonight. Sucks he can't get the win. Maybe only two mistakes. Makes you wonder why the kept him down so long? And stuck with Ponson and Rasner.

NOCODE#1

igotid88 wrote:

2009 prediction 105-57

[vincent vega] That's a bold statement

NOCODE#1

Solat13 wrote:

I don't only agree but so does Hank Steinbrenner:

"The biggest problem is the divisional setup in major league baseball. I didn't like it in the 1970s, and I hate it now," Steinbrenner wrote. "Baseball went to a multidivision setup to create more races, rivalries and excitement. But it isn't fair. You see it this season, with plenty of people in the media pointing out that Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while we're not."

"This is by no means a knock on Torre - let me make that clear-but look at the division they're in. If L.A. were in the AL East, it wouldn't be in the playoff discussion. The AL East is never weak."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/09/23/2008-09-23_hank_steinbrenner_rips_divisional_playof.html

the fortunate talking about misfortune.

igotid88

NOCODE#1 wrote:

[vincent vega] That's a bold statement

That's an "if everyone is healthy for most of the season." prediction. And that's even if we don't get C.C. or A.J.

Fighting Hellfish

Milwaukee continues to use and abuse Sabathia knowing he won't sign with them. I really hope they avoid him. He's gonna pay for the overuse in the near future

igotid88

Yankees Hot stove.

igotid88

Rivera opting for surgery. Should be ready for spring training.

xavier mcdaniel

Cashman will be returning.

igotid88

Who here is hoping C.C. doesn't have to good a playoffs? Cuz if he pitches the way he has since he arrived in Milwaukee. He's gonna demand more than Johan. Not that the Yankees can't afford it. But it scares me a little.

I'm glad Cashman is back.

CROJAM95

I think we will trade for Matt Cain(possibly Cano) sign CC, Texeira

If they trade Cano for Cain...we might go after Brian Roberts
Gardner needs to start in CF, He'll steal a bunch and play good D

'09 Rotation

1)CC
2)Wang
3)Cain
4)Mussina
5)Pettite


Hughes will have starts in '09, '10 he'll be full time. Joba,Coke,Aceves will give us 1 of the best pens.


If we stay healthy, it could be fun

jimed14

CROJAM95 wrote:

I think we will trade for Matt Cain(possibly Cano)

Matt Cain?

Matt Cain is signed through 2010, with a team option in 2011 ...

for a team that just made the collosal mistake of signing Zito to that ridiculous deal ... they (the Giants) need a cheap starter like Cain (he'll make under $3M next year).

Cano stands to make 2 - 3 times what Cain is signed at for the next few years ...