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    Fucking Yankees
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,129
    hartamh wrote:
    I don't understand how they can still be paying that much money right now or ever actually...:( for playing a kids game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I've never understood that, I guess the economy isn't that bad when it comes to contracts these days.. Of course the Yankees are helped by the fact that when they sneeze they make money and all various tax breaks over the years.
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    NCBRINCBRI Posts: 1,902
    Lots of photos of the new stadium over on: http://yankees.lhblogs.com/
    Brian
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    CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,497
    Yanks talkin to Padres about Peavy!!Damn their agressive for sure


    Also gonna bid on Lowe and Burnett. Probably gonna try Texeira too
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,547
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Yanks talkin to Padres about Peavy!!Damn their agressive for sure


    Also gonna bid on Lowe and Burnett. Probably gonna try Texeira too

    I heard Girardi likes him. But I hope we don't get him.
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    NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Yanks talkin to Padres about Peavy!!Damn their agressive for sure


    Also gonna bid on Lowe and Burnett. Probably gonna try Texeira too
    when are the yanks gonna realize their high priced strategy has failed for almost a decade. Everyone knows the definition of insanity.
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
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    CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,497
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    when are the yanks gonna realize their high priced strategy has failed for almost a decade. Everyone knows the definition of insanity.



    I agree somewhat

    The names I ran off are those of pretty young pitchers.The past they overspent on "OLD" Randy johnson,Clemens,Kevin Brown


    and what seems like 1 year wonders like Vasquez,Wright,Pavano.And I probably left out a few. Their starting pitching staff needs to be solidified.I think free agency is the way this year, they need to hold onto their prospects.


    Its hard to do it like the Rays did it.They sucked soo long, they had what seems like the #1 pick for 10 years.And also I think as a fanbase we are spoiled.Seems every year they need to make a big splash.Yankees are always tryin to dominate the back pages
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,547
    Rasner sent to Japan for $1 million.
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    i'm hearing talks are heating up between yanks & pads...
    possible package aground hughes/kennedy for peavy. im sure they'd be ok with that being both are from socal.
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    igotid88 wrote:
    Rasner sent to Japan for $1 million.

    I couldn't believe it when I read that, that the Yankees would do that to him. But later I read it was Rasner's idea. Guess he figures he can dominate over there, instead of sucking here. What if he didn't want to go, though? Can a team just move a guy to Japan without his okay?
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    i'm hearing talks are heating up between yanks & pads...
    possible package aground hughes/kennedy for peavy. im sure they'd be ok with that being both are from socal.

    from what I've read, Peavy has no interest in coming here. Reminds me of Maddux before he signed with the Braves. he at least pretended to have interest in coming here, driving up the price for Atlanta. I think Peavy is awesome, one of the top 2 or 3 pitchers in the game. But if he doesn't want to be here, then forget it. And, as great as a I think he is, you have to remember he has pitched his whole career in the best pitchers park in baseball. His road numbers don't hold up to his Petco park numbers. And for fucks sake, do not sign the perenially injured, only good in his free agent year, AJ Burnett, or the very mediocre Derek Lowe. I'd much rather give Hughes and Kennedy another shot than see Burnett become the new Pavano. If you take Burnett's numbers against the Yankees out from his 2008 stats (which is fair to do since he won't pitch against the yankees if he's pitching for the yankees,) his stats are very pedestrian.
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    WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    I couldn't believe it when I read that, that the Yankees would do that to him. But later I read it was Rasner's idea. Guess he figures he can dominate over there, instead of sucking here. What if he didn't want to go, though? Can a team just move a guy to Japan without his okay?

    Rasner asked for this move. He made the entire thing happen. Otherwise I would guess 'no'.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,547
    from what I've read, Peavy has no interest in coming here. Reminds me of Maddux before he signed with the Braves. he at least pretended to have interest in coming here, driving up the price for Atlanta. I think Peavy is awesome, one of the top 2 or 3 pitchers in the game. But if he doesn't want to be here, then forget it. And, as great as a I think he is, you have to remember he has pitched his whole career in the best pitchers park in baseball. His road numbers don't hold up to his Petco park numbers. And for fucks sake, do not sign the perenially injured, only good in his free agent year, AJ Burnett, or the very mediocre Derek Lowe. I'd much rather give Hughes and Kennedy another shot than see Burnett become the new Pavano. If you take Burnett's numbers against the Yankees out from his 2008 stats (which is fair to do since he won't pitch against the yankees if he's pitching for the yankees,) his stats are very pedestrian.

    That's what I've said about Burnett and if you take his numbers against the Yanks out. And for some reason I think if Peavy comes here. He'll be another Jared Wright or Carl Pavano.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,547
    Yankees opening up the new stadium with 2 exhibition games against the Cubs.
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    jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
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    CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,497
    jimed14 wrote:



    I wish him well...It would suck if they were to win it all in the next few years without him....I guess its a chance I'm gonna have to take :D
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    NCBRINCBRI Posts: 1,902
    I wouldn't have minded Moose coming back for 1 more year. Good luck to him. His 270-153 lifetime record is pretty damn impressive.

    Now the question marks will loom over the rotation until moves are made. Wang is the only sure thing right now. You assume Pettitte comes back so that gives you 2 starters. Joba is 3 if he can stay healthy enough to remain a starter. As much as I think Hughes can win 12-15 games for them next season, you absolutely cannot count on him. You almost have to count him, Joba, and a host of other guys in the org. as 1 spot. There is too much uncertainty not to. Regardless of whether they land Sabathia, they have no choice but to bring in 2 new faces for the rotation mix.

    This is a fun time of year waiting to see what deals are made and who is signing where. Let the games begin!
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    CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,497
    My cuz out in San Jose told me a guy he works with heard a possible trade on the table.



    YANKS GET
    P Matt Cain
    CF Aaron Rowand

    SF GIANTS GET
    2B Robinson Cano
    P Phil Hughes
    And prospect(s)

    Depending on how successful the Yankees will be in free agency.The Giants would get a great hitting 2B,and in time a great 1 or 2 starter.Yanks get a pitcher with expierance and great stuff,and a CF to roam the big outfield of the new Yankee Stadium.

    Obviously its speculation...imo giving up Cano could look bad in the future.I think his swing can be magical...he's a pure hitter.Then again Matt Cain w/ possibly CC,Wang,Pettite,(Lowe,Burnett,Joba,Kennedy,or just about anyone decent) could be craziness at the new digs

    I love Hot Stove :D Here's to a fun season!!!
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,547
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    My cuz out in San Jose told me a guy he works with heard a possible trade on the table.



    YANKS GET
    P Matt Cain
    CF Aaron Rowand

    SF GIANTS GET
    2B Robinson Cano
    P Phil Hughes
    And prospect(s)

    Depending on how successful the Yankees will be in free agency.The Giants would get a great hitting 2B,and in time a great 1 or 2 starter.Yanks get a pitcher with expierance and great stuff,and a CF to roam the big outfield of the new Yankee Stadium.

    Obviously its speculation...imo giving up Cano could look bad in the future.I think his swing can be magical...he's a pure hitter.Then again Matt Cain w/ possibly CC,Wang,Pettite,(Lowe,Burnett,Joba,Kennedy,or just about anyone decent) could be craziness at the new digs

    I love Hot Stove :D Here's to a fun season!!!

    oh man i hope not.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,547
    Nice start for Hughes today. Building up innings and arm strength.

    Hughes, P 5.0ip 2h 0r 0er 0bb 10K 3.00 era
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    jimed14 wrote:


    I heard on the radio tonight that Mussina's agent refuted that report, and that the Yankees will be notified either way by Friday

    well, it's on the front page at SI.com, so maybe it is true.
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,129
    I heard on the radio tonight that Mussina's agent refuted that report, and that the Yankees will be notified either way by Friday

    well, it's on the front page at SI.com, so maybe it is true.


    I'm sure it's true, it's just a case of media outlets trying to get it out first. It happens all the time.

    Now the next question, is he a Hall of Famer?
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    Heard again this morning Yanks are still interested in Mike Cameron to play CF. Even though Mil picked up his option they are still interested in dealing him. WTF???
    Anyone else find this stupid. I know Cameron is a good player but i have no interest in him. He's mid 30's and injury prone. I'd take the speedster Gardner any day.
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    I'm sure it's true, it's just a case of media outlets trying to get it out first. It happens all the time.

    Now the next question, is he a Hall of Famer?

    Yes, Moose is. Not a first ballot, but will get in after 5 or 6 years depending on what guys are eligible and on the ballot along with him. If there is a weak year in terms of eligible players, he will get in.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,129
    Solat13 wrote:
    Yes, Moose is. Not a first ballot, but will get in after 5 or 6 years depending on what guys are eligible and on the ballot along with him. If there is a weak year in terms of eligible players, he will get in.

    I would agree. Now my next question is does guys like Blyleven and Kaat get in. They have win totals similar to Mussina and a lot more complete games but of course the counter to that is longevity and a different era of managing pitchers.
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    petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    $200+ million dollar payroll and STILL wont win a world series...good luck Yankees fans...when will the Steinbrenners realize you cant throw money at the problem...it'll only make it a rich problem..and from what I hear they are willing to spend $140 million for CC, $100 million for Lowe, $80 million for Burnett...jesus
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    I would agree. Now my next question is does guys like Blyleven and Kaat get in. They have win totals similar to Mussina and a lot more complete games but of course the counter to that is longevity and a different era of managing pitchers.

    Blyleven may get in eventually. Don't think Kaat will.

    Were you listening to 660 yesterday afternoon? Mike read a stat that there are 20 pitchers besides Mussina with over 200 wins for a career and have at least 100 more wins than losses. 16 are in the hall and the other 4 are Pedro, Maddux, Clemens and Randy Johnson.

    That alone should ensure Mussina gets in.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,129
    Solat13 wrote:
    Blyleven may get in eventually. Don't think Kaat will.

    Were you listening to 660 yesterday afternoon? Mike read a stat that there are 20 pitchers besides Mussina with over 200 wins for a career and have at least 100 more wins than losses. 16 are in the hall and the other 4 are Pedro, Maddux, Clemens and Randy Johnson.

    That alone should ensure Mussina gets in.

    Actually I missed that. But that's a good stat obviously the three of them are locks, though Clemens probably gets in at some point. Another big factor in Mussina's favor is that he was able to have 270 wins and be well over .500 against hitters who were using performance enhancing drugs.
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    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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    Actually I missed that. But that's a good stat obviously the three of them are locks, though Clemens probably gets in at some point. Another big factor in Mussina's favor is that he was able to have 270 wins and be well over .500 against hitters who were using performance enhancing drugs.

    I think he gets in. Hopefully voters have some perspective. Mussina pitched his entire career in the ultra-competitive, hitter dominated AL east. if he were to flip divisions with Tom Glavine, I think Mussina would already be over 300 wins in the NL East, while Glavine would be lucky to have 250 in the AL East
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    CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,497
    petrocs wrote:
    $200+ million dollar payroll and STILL wont win a world series...good luck Yankees fans...when will the Steinbrenners realize you cant throw money at the problem...it'll only make it a rich problem..and from what I hear they are willing to spend $140 million for CC, $100 million for Lowe, $80 million for Burnett...jesus



    $100 Million for Lowe....who said that? Seems a little much
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