We thought it might be a UTI as well..
Well on thursday i came home to a giant "#2", which didn't look healthy at all.
Then last night we came home and found another runny one, and a RIVER of pee... like i'm not kidding guys, it went from one wall to another.
AND THEN
today we went downtown and we were walking along the street in Gastown (a very touristy area of vancouver) and she got the runs bad, and left a trail all along the sidewalk i was so embarassed... Like we couldnt even pick it up... so gross... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
I read on the internet to fast her for 24 hours then give her small portions of boiled chicken and rice so that's what we're going to do I think...
...and my opinion is probably even less professional then unlost dogs' , but these sound kind of like gracie's symptoms. a limited ingredient diet fixed her right up. I remember when a LID would do me right, too
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Aren't you showing your age? Does anybody still call it a lid? :P
(possibly showing my age for knowing what you're talking about :oops: )
I wasn't sure about that :? . how about the "four finger lid"?
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Aren't you showing your age? Does anybody still call it a lid? :P
(possibly showing my age for knowing what you're talking about :oops: )
I wasn't sure about that :? . how about the "four finger lid"?
Hmmmm lids......
~*LIVE~LOVE~LAUGH*~
*May the Peace of the Wilderness be with YOU*
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
— Unknown
An ounce of weed. A "four finger lid" was a nice fat leafy one. :thumbup:
We're talking 60s, 70s speak here, when something like that was "far out."
Not that imalive or I would know anything about that. . . . :shifty: :shh: :P
An ounce of weed. A "four finger lid" was a nice fat leafy one. :thumbup:
We're talking 60s, 70s speak here, when something like that was "far out."
Not that imalive or I would know anything about that. . . . :shifty: :shh: :P
Ah, maybe just cause I'm in Canada... we don't use ounces LOL
An ounce of weed. A "four finger lid" was a nice fat leafy one. :thumbup:
We're talking 60s, 70s speak here, when something like that was "far out."
Not that imalive or I would know anything about that. . . . :shifty: :shh: :P
Thanks for the laugh! i needed it!!!
back to the puppies, how are the puppies doing???
1995 San Francisco San Jose
San Diego 2 shows
2003 Missoula
2005 Missoula
2006 Denver 2 shows with Tom Petty
Gorge 2 shows
2009 Utah
LA1
LA2
2012 Missoula : Meet and Greet : "Instant Classic show"
So I switched everybody's food from Solid Gold bison to Merrick wildnerness, which means a protein addition (salmon). The local pet store had a lot of trouble with the Solid Gold vendor and they kept having interruptions in delivery, so I figured I'd better change since we were in danger of running out several times. And experience has taught me that it's never a good idea to cold-turkey change foods... especially when the dogs are traveling so much with me.
At any rate, Sailor the sunshine Labrador started getting itchy and his belly was bright pink. So I switched him back, but he kept being itchy, belly stayed bright pink. And he was actually scratching himself. So off we go to see Dr. Tom, our most wonderful vet, because I'm worried about an allergic reaction.
Dr. Tom takes one look, parts the fur at his tail, and says, "He's got fleas!" I go and peer at the spot. Buried beneath the thick, downy undercoat at the base of his tail are fleas. I think I saw a tiki bar, and I'm quite sure they were dancing in a conga line.
I was mortified beyond belief. I've had dogs for 15 years, never once have we had a flea. Only twice have we had ticks. I've never used Frontline or anything like that, except years ago when we went to Martha's Vineyard.
I almost cried. I felt so bad, here poor Sailor was being driven to distraction by that itching, and it never even occurred to me to look for fleas. I had absolutely no experience with them.
But now I do. Dr. Tom gave me a thorough education, even showed me an index card with fleas fixed in various states of development. We made a plan that involved Capstar for all three dogs, to immediately kill any adult fleas on them. (He said we have to assume all three were infested, or would be eventually.) Then all three had thorough baths, fine-toothed combing, and application of Frontline Plus.
Then Phase II started: The Environment. We have hardwood floors and a couple of scatter rugs. One section of old carpeting in the upstairs hall. Everything was saturated with Sentry, vacuumed, all the couch slipcovers, bed linens and dog beds were laundered, including the ones that are in my Element.
The night of the Frontline application Tessie woke me up two or three times scratching herself. Apparently Frontline can agitate the fleas before they die, so I guess that's what was bothering her. Poor girl.
Last night everyone slept soundly. Sailor's skin still seemed a bit pink, I put on some Aloe Vera and hopefully it will quiet down.
Needless to say we'll be on Frontline from here on. I found out later that a few of the dogs at one of the recent agility trials in New Hampshire had been found to have fleas and ticks on them. I guess it must be the season.
fleas are nasty disgusting creatures...and the eggs can lay dormant in your carpet and hatch at a later date for up to one year!
The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.
fleas are nasty disgusting creatures...and the eggs can lay dormant in your carpet and hatch at a later date for up to one year!
No worries unlost, you can use Fleabusters for your house....or just regular old borax. sprinkle into carpet, under baseboards on hardwoods, in the couch etc, let it sit for like an hour, then vacuum it all up...the borax dries out the eggs and larve. Safer for the pups than flea bombing the house.
The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.
fleas are nasty disgusting creatures...and the eggs can lay dormant in your carpet and hatch at a later date for up to one year!
No worries unlost, you can use Fleabusters for your house....or just regular old borax. sprinkle into carpet, under baseboards on hardwoods, in the couch etc, let it sit for like an hour, then vacuum it all up...the borax dries out the eggs and larve. Safer for the pups than flea bombing the house.
yes, obviously keep the pups out of the room you are treating, but if you think about the fact that when you 'flea bomb' the chemicals have to sit for 3 hours and your dog's bed, the couch, carpet, walls etc absorb the toxins and then you live in it, sit in it, breathe it etc.
The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.
yes, obviously keep the pups out of the room you are treating, but if you think about the fact that when you 'flea bomb' the chemicals have to sit for 3 hours and your dog's bed, the couch, carpet, walls etc absorb the toxins and then you live in it, sit in it, breathe it etc.
Yuck. I didn't want to do a flea bomb if I could avoid it, I'll try your suggestion. I'm hoping we got them all, but I'm worried because there are cracks between the floorboards (they're over 100 years old) and I'm thinking the flea eggs may have fallen down there and... man, I cannot sleep at night worrying about this!!!
yes, obviously keep the pups out of the room you are treating, but if you think about the fact that when you 'flea bomb' the chemicals have to sit for 3 hours and your dog's bed, the couch, carpet, walls etc absorb the toxins and then you live in it, sit in it, breathe it etc.
Yuck. I didn't want to do a flea bomb if I could avoid it, I'll try your suggestion. I'm hoping we got them all, but I'm worried because there are cracks between the floorboards (they're over 100 years old) and I'm thinking the flea eggs may have fallen down there and... man, I cannot sleep at night worrying about this!!!
this is more finely milled than regular borax, like flour, so it will get thu the cracks between floorboards. If you buy this stuff, the ingredients will say something like 80% boric acid so you essentially paid $40 for 3# of borax...
also, fleas eggs are stimulated to hatch when carbon dioxide, vibration or heat is detected....so get the treatment done now before summer comes around...or before you start cranking up the heat inside.
from Wiki:
Insecticidal
Boric acid was first registered in the US as an insecticide in 1948 for control of cockroaches, termites, fire ants, fleas, silverfish, and many other insects.[15] It acts as a stomach poison affecting the insects' metabolism, and the dry powder is abrasive to the insects' exoskeleton.
Boric acid is generally considered to be safe to use in household kitchens to control cockroaches and ants. Homemade ant bait can be made by dissolving 1 teaspoon powdered boric acid and 10 teaspoons sugar into 2 cups (~ 500 mL) of water; this mixture can then be absorbed into cotton balls which are left near ant trails. This reportedly will be carried back into the ants' nest, killing any ants that eat it, potentially destroying the entire colony[16].
Boric acid is also made into a paste or gel form as a powerful and effective insecticide much safer to humans than many other insecticides. The paste or gel has attractants in it to attract insects. The boric acid slowly causes dehydration.[citation needed]
The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.
The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.
So sammi left another surprise lsat night... 2 actually.
Then apparently she barked like 5 times to get out through out the night to go pee... :? :?
I'm a little worried, its not like her to have accidents like this, or have to be let out so often...
Anyone had this happen before? :?: :?: :?:
Were both accidents urine? Or did she poop too?
Sweet Pea had a little episode like that not long ago when we were running a lot. I don't know how old she is, but at the time she was probably 10. I was worried that the running might have triggered some kind of renal dysfunction.
So based on my experience, which is not at all professional, the first thing I'd think of is a urinary tract infection. Then I'd look at how much water she's drinking. Being completely paranoid and just educated enough to be wrong about everything, I'd bring her to the vet and ask for a chemistry profile including a BUN and creatinine to check kidney function. Then your vet, like mine, will go :roll: and will dutifully run the tests which will come back astonishingly within normal limits, and the vet will say, "Don't let her tank up on water at night."
We thought it might be a UTI as well..
Well on thursday i came home to a giant "#2", which didn't look healthy at all.
Then last night we came home and found another runny one, and a RIVER of pee... like i'm not kidding guys, it went from one wall to another.
AND THEN
today we went downtown and we were walking along the street in Gastown (a very touristy area of vancouver) and she got the runs bad, and left a trail all along the sidewalk i was so embarassed... Like we couldnt even pick it up... so gross... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
I read on the internet to fast her for 24 hours then give her small portions of boiled chicken and rice so that's what we're going to do I think...
Ok so here's a very important question.. were the runs gelatinous looking? did it look like she crapped jello almost? because if so in my experience those poops spell Parvo ( but if she had her shots she SHOULD be good against that, but I DO own that one cat that even though he'd had his shots he still got Distemper so..) or Colitis, which is an irritible bowl syndrome in dogs though humans get that too.. anyhow if it IS colitis a bland diet works best and seems to soothe the bowels..I hope Sammi gets better soon!!
I hope your doggie friend is ok soon..I hate being worried about my pets. Anyhow get well soon Sammi dog!!and SENROCK thanks for adding my boys to the list.. that made my day.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Ok so here's a very important question.. were the runs gelatinous looking? did it look like she crapped jello almost? because if so in my experience those poops spell Parvo ( but if she had her shots she SHOULD be good against that, but I DO own that one cat that even though he'd had his shots he still got Distemper so..) or Colitis, which is an irritible bowl syndrome in dogs though humans get that too.. anyhow if it IS colitis a bland diet works best and seems to soothe the bowels..I hope Sammi gets better soon!!
Thanks for your insight..
I can't say that any looked gelatinous but one was very colourless, now that i think about it, and another was just very um, large... in quantity... and the third was as well...
She hasn't had anymore accidents so hopefully she's okay now, even though her stool could be a little healthier
Ok so here's a very important question.. were the runs gelatinous looking? did it look like she crapped jello almost? because if so in my experience those poops spell Parvo ( but if she had her shots she SHOULD be good against that, but I DO own that one cat that even though he'd had his shots he still got Distemper so..) or Colitis, which is an irritible bowl syndrome in dogs though humans get that too.. anyhow if it IS colitis a bland diet works best and seems to soothe the bowels..I hope Sammi gets better soon!!
Thanks for your insight..
I can't say that any looked gelatinous but one was very colourless, now that i think about it, and another was just very um, large... in quantity... and the third was as well...
She hasn't had anymore accidents so hopefully she's okay now, even though her stool could be a little healthier
Comments
I hope she feels better!
I hope so for everyones sake.
When she barks to go out i hafto sprint downstairs yelling "DON'T POO I'M COMING DON'T POO!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I absolutly love his expression!!!
1995 San Francisco
San Jose
San Diego 2 shows
2003 Missoula
2005 Missoula
2006 Denver 2 shows with Tom Petty
Gorge 2 shows
2009 Utah
LA1
LA2
2012 Missoula : Meet and Greet : "Instant Classic show"
2013 Portland
Spokane
2018 Missoula
Hilarious! It looks like defiance to me...
"How can it be so wrong if it feels so right?"
(possibly showing my age for knowing what you're talking about :oops: )
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Hmmmm lids......
*May the Peace of the Wilderness be with YOU*
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
— Unknown
We're talking 60s, 70s speak here, when something like that was "far out."
Not that imalive or I would know anything about that. . . . :shifty: :shh: :P
Thanks for the laugh! i needed it!!!
back to the puppies, how are the puppies doing???
1995 San Francisco
San Jose
San Diego 2 shows
2003 Missoula
2005 Missoula
2006 Denver 2 shows with Tom Petty
Gorge 2 shows
2009 Utah
LA1
LA2
2012 Missoula : Meet and Greet : "Instant Classic show"
2013 Portland
Spokane
2018 Missoula
At any rate, Sailor the sunshine Labrador started getting itchy and his belly was bright pink. So I switched him back, but he kept being itchy, belly stayed bright pink. And he was actually scratching himself. So off we go to see Dr. Tom, our most wonderful vet, because I'm worried about an allergic reaction.
Dr. Tom takes one look, parts the fur at his tail, and says, "He's got fleas!" I go
I was mortified beyond belief. I've had dogs for 15 years, never once have we had a flea. Only twice have we had ticks. I've never used Frontline or anything like that, except years ago when we went to Martha's Vineyard.
I almost cried. I felt so bad, here poor Sailor was being driven to distraction by that itching, and it never even occurred to me to look for fleas. I had absolutely no experience with them.
But now I do. Dr. Tom gave me a thorough education, even showed me an index card with fleas fixed in various states of development. We made a plan that involved Capstar for all three dogs, to immediately kill any adult fleas on them. (He said we have to assume all three were infested, or would be eventually.) Then all three had thorough baths, fine-toothed combing, and application of Frontline Plus.
Then Phase II started: The Environment. We have hardwood floors and a couple of scatter rugs. One section of old carpeting in the upstairs hall. Everything was saturated with Sentry, vacuumed, all the couch slipcovers, bed linens and dog beds were laundered, including the ones that are in my Element.
The night of the Frontline application Tessie woke me up two or three times scratching herself. Apparently Frontline can agitate the fleas before they die, so I guess that's what was bothering her. Poor girl.
Last night everyone slept soundly. Sailor's skin still seemed a bit pink, I put on some Aloe Vera and hopefully it will quiet down.
Needless to say we'll be on Frontline from here on. I found out later that a few of the dogs at one of the recent agility trials in New Hampshire had been found to have fleas and ticks on them. I guess it must be the season.
So, are you itchy now or what?
- Christopher McCandless
No worries unlost, you can use Fleabusters for your house....or just regular old borax. sprinkle into carpet, under baseboards on hardwoods, in the couch etc, let it sit for like an hour, then vacuum it all up...the borax dries out the eggs and larve. Safer for the pups than flea bombing the house.
- Christopher McCandless
really? that's good to know
yes, obviously keep the pups out of the room you are treating, but if you think about the fact that when you 'flea bomb' the chemicals have to sit for 3 hours and your dog's bed, the couch, carpet, walls etc absorb the toxins and then you live in it, sit in it, breathe it etc.
- Christopher McCandless
Yuck. I didn't want to do a flea bomb if I could avoid it, I'll try your suggestion. I'm hoping we got them all, but I'm worried because there are cracks between the floorboards (they're over 100 years old) and I'm thinking the flea eggs may have fallen down there and... man, I cannot sleep at night worrying about this!!!
http://www.fleabuster.com/
this is more finely milled than regular borax, like flour, so it will get thu the cracks between floorboards. If you buy this stuff, the ingredients will say something like 80% boric acid so you essentially paid $40 for 3# of borax...
also, fleas eggs are stimulated to hatch when carbon dioxide, vibration or heat is detected....so get the treatment done now before summer comes around...or before you start cranking up the heat inside.
from Wiki:
Insecticidal
Boric acid was first registered in the US as an insecticide in 1948 for control of cockroaches, termites, fire ants, fleas, silverfish, and many other insects.[15] It acts as a stomach poison affecting the insects' metabolism, and the dry powder is abrasive to the insects' exoskeleton.
Boric acid is generally considered to be safe to use in household kitchens to control cockroaches and ants. Homemade ant bait can be made by dissolving 1 teaspoon powdered boric acid and 10 teaspoons sugar into 2 cups (~ 500 mL) of water; this mixture can then be absorbed into cotton balls which are left near ant trails. This reportedly will be carried back into the ants' nest, killing any ants that eat it, potentially destroying the entire colony[16].
Boric acid is also made into a paste or gel form as a powerful and effective insecticide much safer to humans than many other insecticides. The paste or gel has attractants in it to attract insects. The boric acid slowly causes dehydration.[citation needed]
- Christopher McCandless
http://www.cheerupemokid.net/comic/2010 ... dog-part-1
- Christopher McCandless
Ok so here's a very important question.. were the runs gelatinous looking? did it look like she crapped jello almost? because if so in my experience those poops spell Parvo ( but if she had her shots she SHOULD be good against that, but I DO own that one cat that even though he'd had his shots he still got Distemper so..) or Colitis, which is an irritible bowl syndrome in dogs though humans get that too.. anyhow if it IS colitis a bland diet works best and seems to soothe the bowels..I hope Sammi gets better soon!!
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I can't say that any looked gelatinous but one was very colourless, now that i think about it, and another was just very um, large... in quantity... and the third was as well...
She hasn't had anymore accidents so hopefully she's okay now, even though her stool could be a little healthier
Well that's a relief! Give her a hug from me.
SHE TOOK A PISS IN MY ROOM THIS MORNING.
:( :(
time to book a vet appt? :?