inevitabley there will be some kind of
juggling required I would imagine.
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Anton Stralman re-signs with NY Rangers to two-year, $3.4 million deal, avoids arbitration, returns to Blueshirts' blue line
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That's how much time remains for the NHL and its players' association to bridge a wide gap in collective bargaining negotiations or face another lockout.
Commissioner Gary Bettman made it clear during Thursday's bargaining session in New York that the league is prepared to lock out its players when the current agreement expires Sept. 15.
"I re-confirmed something that the union has been told multiple times over the last nine to 12 months," Bettman told reporters after a two-hour meeting. "Namely, that time is getting short and the owners are not prepared to operate under this collective bargaining agreement for another season, so we need to get to making a deal and doing it soon. And we believe there's ample time for the parties to get together and make a deal and that's what we're going to be working towards."
The clock is ticking.
It makes next week's meetings in Toronto particularly important, with NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr expected to deliver the union's first official proposal on Tuesday. It won't look anything like the one the NHL handed over July 13.
The union found very little, if anything, it liked in that document, which called for a lowering of the players' share in revenue, introduced new contract restrictions and called for an extended entry-level system.
One change the players will seek is a broadening of the revenue- sharing system between teams. Fehr raised that issue Thursday during the talks at NHL headquarters as a way to illustrate why the NHLPA wasn't in favour of the league's proposal.
"We made a presentation directly related to the owners' proposal -- a revenue-sharing system as it would be combined with the player compensation system that they had proposed," said Fehr. "In the course of doing that, (we) indicated to them that for a couple of different reasons it didn't look to us like it was the way to go.
"In particular, the biggest reason was that it seems to us, both overall and on a club-by-club basis, all of the revenue-sharing payments -- both the new ones and the existing ones -- would be paid for by player salary reductions."
That was by design.
Bettman indicated that "fundamental economics" are more of a key element to the negotiations than revenue sharing.
"The fundamental proposal, our initial proposal, relates to the fact that we need to be paying out less in player costs," he said.
The NHL lost its entire 2004-05 season to a lockout and seems to be facing the growing possibility of another one. It would be the third on Bettman's watch.
Fehr has floated the idea of continuing negotiations while players report to training camp if a new deal wasn't in place by Sept. 15.
"Under the law, if an agreement expires, that may give someone the legal ability to go on strike or in this case to impose a lockout," he said. "There's no requirement that they do so and if nobody does anything you (can) continue to work under the old conditions."
However, with the NHL unwilling to do that, negotiations will need to pick up pace. Even though the sides have been meeting regularly since the end of June, very little progress has been made on what they refer to as the "core economic issues" -- how revenues should be divided.
"There's a meaningful gulf there," said Fehr. "I'll leave it at that for now."
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Overview: The Rangers were eliminated in the Eastern Conference Finals. One reason for them running out of gas was the fact their 1st- & 2nd-round series went 7 games, when an offense that was slightly above average during the regular season became a hindrance in Playoffs.
Tell us. They came close this past season, but can the Rangers reach the Stanley Cup Final next season for the first time since 1994?
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i'll say this..i ain't sending in another ticket payment till its settled ( or not)
figures..we finally have a team on the brink of glory and their is gonna be a lockout :fp:
fucking sucks so bad
especially after getting to the final 4 last go around
no cup, but still
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Hence the nickname that he became best known by, "Bones" Raleigh.
At 5'11" and 145-150lbs, the slender center was never a physical player. But he was a skilled puck technician. Best known as an elusive playmaker, he was an underrated goal scorer with a knack for scoring big goals.
Born in Kenora, Ontario, Raleigh was raised and became a junior hockey star in the Winnipeg area. His knack for winning championships at the bantam, midget and junior hockey levels assured him entry into the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame.
Raleigh joined the Rangers for the 1943-44 season, a call up due to a roster depleted by World War II. At 17 he became the youngest full time player in team history. His season lasted only 15 games though, as he suffered a broken jaw in a game against the Toronto Maple Leafs.
The following season Raleigh returned to Canada and joined the Canadian Army. Based in Winnipeg, he also played hockey with several teams during his years of service, including with the University of Winnipeg where he also found time to study and with the senior Winnipeg Flyers who competed for the Allan Cup in 1947.
Upon the end of the War, Raleigh returned to Manhattan for the the 1947-48 season. The Rangers were a decent team back then, but goaltender Chuck Rayner made them a threat. In the 1950 playoffs Rayner and Raleigh led the Rangers within a whisker of the Stanley Cup championship! Playing against the Detroit Red Wings, it was Raleigh who scored back-to-back overtime game winning goals in games 4 and 5 to keep the Rangers alive. Raleigh had his chances to score another OT goal in game 6, but ultimately the Red Wings emerged from that game as the Stanley Cup champions.
The Rangers teams sunk back to mediocrity for much of the next couple of decades, but Raleigh emerged as the team's offensive heart until his departure in 1955. In fact, in 1951-52 Raleigh set a team record (since surpassed) with 42 assists, and led the team with 61 points, the 4th best total in the entire league.
Despite Raleigh's best efforts, the Rangers were spinning their wheels and ownership decided a change was needed. Fiery Phil Watson was brought in as coach in 1955-56, which all but ended Raleigh's days in New York. Watson wanted a team of big, physical grinders, and Raleigh simply did not fit in his game plan.
Raleigh returned to Western Canada, playing in Saskatoon and Brandon before leaving the game at the age of 32 in 1958. He returned to Winnipeg and got into the insurance business, owning his own insurance and consulting firm. He would later do some television analyst work with the WHA Winnipeg Jets upon their arrival in 1972.
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Hence the nickname that he became best known by, "Bones" Raleigh.
At 5'11" and 145-150lbs, the slender center was never a physical player. But he was a skilled puck technician. Best known as an elusive playmaker, he was an underrated goal scorer with a knack for scoring big goals.
Born in Kenora, Ontario, Raleigh was raised and became a junior hockey star in the Winnipeg area. His knack for winning championships at the bantam, midget and junior hockey levels assured him entry into the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame.
Raleigh joined the Rangers for the 1943-44 season, a call up due to a roster depleted by World War II. At 17 he became the youngest full time player in team history. His season lasted only 15 games though, as he suffered a broken jaw in a game against the Toronto Maple Leafs.
The following season Raleigh returned to Canada and joined the Canadian Army. Based in Winnipeg, he also played hockey with several teams during his years of service, including with the University of Winnipeg where he also found time to study and with the senior Winnipeg Flyers who competed for the Allan Cup in 1947.
Upon the end of the War, Raleigh returned to Manhattan for the the 1947-48 season. The Rangers were a decent team back then, but goaltender Chuck Rayner made them a threat. In the 1950 playoffs Rayner and Raleigh led the Rangers within a whisker of the Stanley Cup championship! Playing against the Detroit Red Wings, it was Raleigh who scored back-to-back overtime game winning goals in games 4 and 5 to keep the Rangers alive. Raleigh had his chances to score another OT goal in game 6, but ultimately the Red Wings emerged from that game as the Stanley Cup champions.
The Rangers teams sunk back to mediocrity for much of the next couple of decades, but Raleigh emerged as the team's offensive heart until his departure in 1955. In fact, in 1951-52 Raleigh set a team record (since surpassed) with 42 assists, and led the team with 61 points, the 4th best total in the entire league.
Despite Raleigh's best efforts, the Rangers were spinning their wheels and ownership decided a change was needed. Fiery Phil Watson was brought in as coach in 1955-56, which all but ended Raleigh's days in New York. Watson wanted a team of big, physical grinders, and Raleigh simply did not fit in his game plan.
Raleigh returned to Western Canada, playing in Saskatoon and Brandon before leaving the game at the age of 32 in 1958. He returned to Winnipeg and got into the insurance business, owning his own insurance and consulting firm. He would later do some television analyst work with the WHA Winnipeg Jets upon their arrival in 1972.
Hence the nickname that he became best known by, "Bones" Raleigh.
At 5'11" and 145-150lbs, the slender center was never a physical player. But he was a skilled puck technician. Best known as an elusive playmaker, he was an underrated goal scorer with a knack for scoring big goals.
Born in Kenora, Ontario, Raleigh was raised and became a junior hockey star in the Winnipeg area. His knack for winning championships at the bantam, midget and junior hockey levels assured him entry into the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame.
Raleigh joined the Rangers for the 1943-44 season, a call up due to a roster depleted by World War II. At 17 he became the youngest full time player in team history. His season lasted only 15 games though, as he suffered a broken jaw in a game against the Toronto Maple Leafs.
The following season Raleigh returned to Canada and joined the Canadian Army. Based in Winnipeg, he also played hockey with several teams during his years of service, including with the University of Winnipeg where he also found time to study and with the senior Winnipeg Flyers who competed for the Allan Cup in 1947.
Upon the end of the War, Raleigh returned to Manhattan for the the 1947-48 season. The Rangers were a decent team back then, but goaltender Chuck Rayner made them a threat. In the 1950 playoffs Rayner and Raleigh led the Rangers within a whisker of the Stanley Cup championship! Playing against the Detroit Red Wings, it was Raleigh who scored back-to-back overtime game winning goals in games 4 and 5 to keep the Rangers alive. Raleigh had his chances to score another OT goal in game 6, but ultimately the Red Wings emerged from that game as the Stanley Cup champions.
The Rangers teams sunk back to mediocrity for much of the next couple of decades, but Raleigh emerged as the team's offensive heart until his departure in 1955. In fact, in 1951-52 Raleigh set a team record (since surpassed) with 42 assists, and led the team with 61 points, the 4th best total in the entire league.
Despite Raleigh's best efforts, the Rangers were spinning their wheels and ownership decided a change was needed. Fiery Phil Watson was brought in as coach in 1955-56, which all but ended Raleigh's days in New York. Watson wanted a team of big, physical grinders, and Raleigh simply did not fit in his game plan.
Raleigh returned to Western Canada, playing in Saskatoon and Brandon before leaving the game at the age of 32 in 1958. He returned to Winnipeg and got into the insurance business, owning his own insurance and consulting firm. He would later do some television analyst work with the WHA Winnipeg Jets upon their arrival in 1972.
5'11" 145lbs. Wow. RIP
Playing at 17 &
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Madison Square Garden, its two marquee sports teams having enjoyed their best collective seasons in 15 years, is reaping its reward.
Season-ticket holders of the Knicks and Rangers are renewing their tickets at a robust pace — despite price increases.
Ninety-five percent of Knicks season ticket holders renewed compared with 90 percent the prior year, Garden officials said.
Rangers season tickets are being renewed at a 90 percent rate — up from 85 percent the prior year.
The robust renewal rates come despite a 5 percent hike for the Knicks and a 9.5 percent jump for the Rangers.
“Coming off an incredible playoff run and an active and successful offseason, it should come as no surprise that Rangers season ticket holders renewed at such a high rate,” said Scott O’Neil, President, MSG Sports.
Meanwhile, shares of MSG jumped 2.9 percent after the company reported profits tripled to $28.6 million, or 37 cents a share, on a 42 percent rise in revenue, to $332.9 million.
Both beat Wall Street forecasts.
The strong fiscal fourth quarter was fueled by added playoff games played by the Rangers and Knicks and by a big boost in revenue from a new carriage deal with Time Warner Cable.
Affiliate fees rose 20 percent to $167 million for the unit that also includes the MSG channels and music service Fuse.
Susquehanna media analyst Vasily Karasyov noted: “The fourth quarter results look stronger than we expected in every segment.
“An increase in playoff games, both for the Knicks and the Rangers, was a major driver of upside in the quarter (recognized in the MSG Sports segment results).”
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game jerseys have arrived at MSG
i hope they got mothballs
wow Rupp took Dubi's 17 quick ......
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i think he was the last active player from 94 team at one time .
I hope he doesnt come knocking on Sathers door.
Guys 39 already,..
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i think he was the last active player from 94 team at one time .
I hope he doesnt come knocking on Sathers door.
Guys 39 already,..
Hey, I'm 39, I was thinking of writing Sather a letter as well. I'm good on the penalty kill!!
go for it dude !
i'll be 46 in a couple months,
so probably too old now.
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just read Bettman counter-offered to negotiate on the Players proposal,
and a 6 year deal, decreasing players take from 57 %,
down to an even 50-50 split.
theyre all making money on the average fan,....
I just want them to get something done
we are soooo close.
:fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:
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Pippa Middleton, Britain's most sought-after single lady, lit up the Electric Room in NYC.
Is Pippa Middleton playing the field?
The royal sibling spent the day Sunday with handsome hotelier Andre Balazs — and the night chatting with former New York Ranger Sean Avery.
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Anton Stralman re-signs with NY Rangers to two-year, $3.4 million deal, avoids arbitration, returns to Blueshirts' blue line
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didnt this guy call our team 'soft'?
f him
besides we likely wont have cap space for him,....
http://www.nyrangersblog.com/2012-artic ... rnton.html
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I was at the game in Boston with my wife (a B's fan) when Lindros shattered his face for him. Good times!
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Thirty-seven days.
That's how much time remains for the NHL and its players' association to bridge a wide gap in collective bargaining negotiations or face another lockout.
Commissioner Gary Bettman made it clear during Thursday's bargaining session in New York that the league is prepared to lock out its players when the current agreement expires Sept. 15.
"I re-confirmed something that the union has been told multiple times over the last nine to 12 months," Bettman told reporters after a two-hour meeting. "Namely, that time is getting short and the owners are not prepared to operate under this collective bargaining agreement for another season, so we need to get to making a deal and doing it soon. And we believe there's ample time for the parties to get together and make a deal and that's what we're going to be working towards."
The clock is ticking.
It makes next week's meetings in Toronto particularly important, with NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr expected to deliver the union's first official proposal on Tuesday. It won't look anything like the one the NHL handed over July 13.
The union found very little, if anything, it liked in that document, which called for a lowering of the players' share in revenue, introduced new contract restrictions and called for an extended entry-level system.
One change the players will seek is a broadening of the revenue- sharing system between teams. Fehr raised that issue Thursday during the talks at NHL headquarters as a way to illustrate why the NHLPA wasn't in favour of the league's proposal.
"We made a presentation directly related to the owners' proposal -- a revenue-sharing system as it would be combined with the player compensation system that they had proposed," said Fehr. "In the course of doing that, (we) indicated to them that for a couple of different reasons it didn't look to us like it was the way to go.
"In particular, the biggest reason was that it seems to us, both overall and on a club-by-club basis, all of the revenue-sharing payments -- both the new ones and the existing ones -- would be paid for by player salary reductions."
That was by design.
Bettman indicated that "fundamental economics" are more of a key element to the negotiations than revenue sharing.
"The fundamental proposal, our initial proposal, relates to the fact that we need to be paying out less in player costs," he said.
The NHL lost its entire 2004-05 season to a lockout and seems to be facing the growing possibility of another one. It would be the third on Bettman's watch.
Fehr has floated the idea of continuing negotiations while players report to training camp if a new deal wasn't in place by Sept. 15.
"Under the law, if an agreement expires, that may give someone the legal ability to go on strike or in this case to impose a lockout," he said. "There's no requirement that they do so and if nobody does anything you (can) continue to work under the old conditions."
However, with the NHL unwilling to do that, negotiations will need to pick up pace. Even though the sides have been meeting regularly since the end of June, very little progress has been made on what they refer to as the "core economic issues" -- how revenues should be divided.
"There's a meaningful gulf there," said Fehr. "I'll leave it at that for now."
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Overview: The Rangers were eliminated in the Eastern Conference Finals. One reason for them running out of gas was the fact their 1st- & 2nd-round series went 7 games, when an offense that was slightly above average during the regular season became a hindrance in Playoffs.
30-in-30 recap: http://bit.ly/P4PFxv
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Tell us. They came close this past season, but can the Rangers reach the Stanley Cup Final next season for the first time since 1994?
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but looks like a lockout is imminent.
anyhow:
I wasnt even aware there was a dispute with Del-Z
http://newyorkragers.com/2012/08/21/why ... t-dispute/
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figures..we finally have a team on the brink of glory and their is gonna be a lockout :fp:
fucking sucks so bad
especially after getting to the final 4 last go around
no cup, but still
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before most of our time but respect,...
Former Rangers Captain Don (Bones) Raleigh died in his sleep last night (as tweeted by his son)
Youngest man to wear Blueshirt scored two OT goals in Stanley Cup Finals and was also team captain.
http://nyrangerslegends.blogspot.com/20 ... leigh.html
Here's the skinny on Don Raleigh: He was skinny.
Hence the nickname that he became best known by, "Bones" Raleigh.
At 5'11" and 145-150lbs, the slender center was never a physical player. But he was a skilled puck technician. Best known as an elusive playmaker, he was an underrated goal scorer with a knack for scoring big goals.
Born in Kenora, Ontario, Raleigh was raised and became a junior hockey star in the Winnipeg area. His knack for winning championships at the bantam, midget and junior hockey levels assured him entry into the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame.
Raleigh joined the Rangers for the 1943-44 season, a call up due to a roster depleted by World War II. At 17 he became the youngest full time player in team history. His season lasted only 15 games though, as he suffered a broken jaw in a game against the Toronto Maple Leafs.
The following season Raleigh returned to Canada and joined the Canadian Army. Based in Winnipeg, he also played hockey with several teams during his years of service, including with the University of Winnipeg where he also found time to study and with the senior Winnipeg Flyers who competed for the Allan Cup in 1947.
Upon the end of the War, Raleigh returned to Manhattan for the the 1947-48 season. The Rangers were a decent team back then, but goaltender Chuck Rayner made them a threat. In the 1950 playoffs Rayner and Raleigh led the Rangers within a whisker of the Stanley Cup championship! Playing against the Detroit Red Wings, it was Raleigh who scored back-to-back overtime game winning goals in games 4 and 5 to keep the Rangers alive. Raleigh had his chances to score another OT goal in game 6, but ultimately the Red Wings emerged from that game as the Stanley Cup champions.
The Rangers teams sunk back to mediocrity for much of the next couple of decades, but Raleigh emerged as the team's offensive heart until his departure in 1955. In fact, in 1951-52 Raleigh set a team record (since surpassed) with 42 assists, and led the team with 61 points, the 4th best total in the entire league.
Despite Raleigh's best efforts, the Rangers were spinning their wheels and ownership decided a change was needed. Fiery Phil Watson was brought in as coach in 1955-56, which all but ended Raleigh's days in New York. Watson wanted a team of big, physical grinders, and Raleigh simply did not fit in his game plan.
Raleigh returned to Western Canada, playing in Saskatoon and Brandon before leaving the game at the age of 32 in 1958. He returned to Winnipeg and got into the insurance business, owning his own insurance and consulting firm. He would later do some television analyst work with the WHA Winnipeg Jets upon their arrival in 1972.
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5'11" 145lbs. Wow. RIP
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love the look on the philly fans' faces !
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happy bday speedy
and R.I.P BONES
There is still time to join John Tortorella & the New York Rangers to help end animal abuse at the Inaugural Rangers Dog Walk on September 9th.
Activities include: A Q & A with John Tortorella, on-site pet adoptions, giveaways and more!
PLUS appearances by: Ryan Callahan, Henrik Lundqvist, Rick Nash, Brad Richards & other Rangers players!
UPDATE: Participants without dogs are now able to sign up for the event!
For tickets and more information: http://bit.ly/NYRuff
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caa- ching !
RANGERS and knickerbockers both jolt for MSG
MSG Gets kick from RANGERS and Knicks
Madison Square Garden, its two marquee sports teams having enjoyed their best collective seasons in 15 years, is reaping its reward.
Season-ticket holders of the Knicks and Rangers are renewing their tickets at a robust pace — despite price increases.
Ninety-five percent of Knicks season ticket holders renewed compared with 90 percent the prior year, Garden officials said.
Rangers season tickets are being renewed at a 90 percent rate — up from 85 percent the prior year.
The robust renewal rates come despite a 5 percent hike for the Knicks and a 9.5 percent jump for the Rangers.
“Coming off an incredible playoff run and an active and successful offseason, it should come as no surprise that Rangers season ticket holders renewed at such a high rate,” said Scott O’Neil, President, MSG Sports.
Meanwhile, shares of MSG jumped 2.9 percent after the company reported profits tripled to $28.6 million, or 37 cents a share, on a 42 percent rise in revenue, to $332.9 million.
Both beat Wall Street forecasts.
The strong fiscal fourth quarter was fueled by added playoff games played by the Rangers and Knicks and by a big boost in revenue from a new carriage deal with Time Warner Cable.
Affiliate fees rose 20 percent to $167 million for the unit that also includes the MSG channels and music service Fuse.
Susquehanna media analyst Vasily Karasyov noted: “The fourth quarter results look stronger than we expected in every segment.
“An increase in playoff games, both for the Knicks and the Rangers, was a major driver of upside in the quarter (recognized in the MSG Sports segment results).”
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i hope they got mothballs
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i think he was the last active player from 94 team at one time .
I hope he doesnt come knocking on Sathers door.
Guys 39 already,..
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Hey, I'm 39, I was thinking of writing Sather a letter as well. I'm good on the penalty kill!!
That's odd. I was watching an old tape from 2002 when he was traded back to the Rangers
go for it dude !
i'll be 46 in a couple months,
so probably too old now.
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I hope not either. :fp:
Andy Bathgate
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and a 6 year deal, decreasing players take from 57 %,
down to an even 50-50 split.
theyre all making money on the average fan,....
I just want them to get something done
we are soooo close.
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right down the middle as i said from the beginning
if this doesn't get solved ..FUCK THEM ALL
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