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Bathgate66

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

I was a few feet from Shanahan when he said this:

"The analogy I always say: the NBA didn't let people grab (Michael) Jordan by the waist every time he went up for a jumpshot. "Jags has played through that all season long. I've been amazed by it. It's not just tonight's reference; it's every night. He could draw a penalty every shift he's on. ... It's just that he has the puck so much, can draw so many, it's almost that the refs don't want to give out five or six penalties, because he really protects the puck well it's like a different set of rules."

"I don't know why they ignore the hooks and the holds and the chops and the late hits on Jaromir Jagr. "I don't know what it is. All I know is it exists. It didn't happen to Steve Yzerman, didn't happen to Niklas Lidstrom, never happened to Mike Modano, Joe Sakic. ... There's a different set of rules the referees have for him. It's something I've seen every night and I guess it's time to say something on his behalf. He doesn't complain. He's not going to complain, but I'll do it for him."

a few feet away from Shanny ?


X, are you a NYR beat writer- and didnt want to tell us?
?

xavier mcdaniel

Bathgate66 wrote:

a few feet away from Shanny ?


X, are you a NYR beat writer- and didnt want to tell us?
?

the answer is your private message inbox.

Bathgate66

Blueshirt Bulletin - Shanny goes off on refs



January 31, 2007

Shanahan Whistles Refs -- Again [Links & Prospect Park Added 11:00 AM]

Don't forget tonight's Rangers 4 on 4 live online panel discussion, hosted by Mitch Beck and featuring Daily News reporter John Dellapina, Inside Hockey's Kevin Greenstein, and defenseman Dalyn Flatt of the Brampton Battalion, currently leading all Ranger prospects in penalty minutes. Join us from 7-9 PM this evening right here at BlueshirtBulletin.com.

Brendan Shanahan went on a tirade after the Rangers' 2-1 home loss to Toronto about the way NHL officials treat Jaromir Jagr. "Such disrespect from the referees," he said. "He gets mauled every game. I don't know what it is, if there's some sort of prejudice again him or what the deal is. Guys hit him late, guys hit him high, guys hook his hands. He doesn't complain -- he just goes out and plays and plays and plays. And the referees just seem to have a different set of rules about the way people get to play against him. I'm trying to eliminate the reasons why. But he could draw a penalty almost every shift because of guys chopping at his hands, reaching in on him. It's all season, it's not just tonight. It's like a difference set of rules. The refs allow more on him. If he was 170 pounds and fell down every time someone reached in on him -- the standards should be the same for all players regardless of their size and strength and ability."

Shanahan made a comparison between Jagr and other stars. "The NBA didn't let people grab [Michael] Jordan by the waist every time he went up for a jump shot," he said. "I've played with other superstars and they get a whole lot more respect than this guy. Mats Sundin goes down first period, first shift -- penalty. Jaromir Jagr's gotta carry guys on his back all season long. It didn't happen to Steve Yzerman, didn't happen to Nik Lidstrom, it never happened to Mike Modano. Joe Sakic -- I've seen it all. There's a certain amount of respect -- guys who have the puck on their stick a lot draw penalties. Jags never draws penalties. There's a different set of rules refs have for him. It's a different set of rules for Jaromir Jagr."

He compared the bias to what Slava Fetisov experienced when he was one of the first players to come over from the Soviet Union. "I've just never seen a star player get ignored [like Jagr]," he said. "Not since Fetisov came over from Russia have I ever seen a star player get ignored by the referees. I know why they were ignoring him [Fetisov] back then. But I don't know why they're ignoring the hooks and the holds and the chops and the late hits on Jaromir Jagr. He's been a great player for this league for a long time. I don't know what it is, all I know is that it exists."

He emphasized that he wasn't talking solely about tonight's game, even though the officiating was one-sided, as it usually is when the Rangers play a Canadian team. "It's a cumulative effect," he said. "They had six power plays to our two. Specifically in the second period, there were some plays where Jags had the puck in the offensive zone where he could have drawn two or three penalties. But it's something I've seen every night. It's time to say something on his behalf. He doesn't complain, but I'll do it for him. I don't think he wants to [dive] -- I don't think it's in him. I would never tell a player to do that."

Jagr himself did not complain about how the officiating affected him, but he did have one sarcastic remark about the officiating overall. "They had more power plays -- I don't know how that happened," he said. "Wow! Sometimes they [the refs] just close their eyes. That's where they [the Leafs] get their chances."

Shanahan, who as we all well know by know was instrumental in helping to set new standards of officiating after the lockout, believes things are starting to resemble the old days. "I wouldn't be happy if the refs put the whistle in the pocket for both teams," he said. "I think the rules should be called regardless of the score. The call on Matt Cullen at the end of the game was the right call. I just don't think they were calling that same play [for us]. The calls in general have dropped -- we're starting to creep back to the way it was. I say that not as a player who just lost a game, who's upset about the Jagr situation. It's something I've felt watching games on TV. We're certainly creeping back the other way a little bit with the first tug, the first reach -- crosschecking is right back in the game."

Tom Renney was caught a bit by surprise when learning what Shanahan said. "Shanny said that, did he?" he said. "Shanny was really upset tonight, huh?" But he picked up the rallying cry all the same. "You gotta wonder," he said. "I just watched probably eleven clips where the opposition held sticks, held jerseys, had face-off interference, cross-checked -- what did I miss?" You missed some uncalled trips, hooks, roughing, and interference -- at least six more instances in total. "That about sums it up. I sure saw a lot of penalties tonight that were non-calls. You look at the footage, you say, 'Wow!' There's three faceoff interference non-calls, there's two holding the jersey non-calls, there's a couple holding the stick calls, there's a crosschecking call -- and all of sudden you're asking yourself what happened?"

Asked specifically about any prejudice toward Jagr, Renney said, "I don't know if it's a bias, I don't know what happens to other teams, to their best players." He said he might take it up with league VP Colin Campbel. "I probably would have a talk with him," he said. "They're good at that -- as long as your respect the process and don't go crazy on them, they're open to that kind of feedback. They need it, and we need the rationalization back." Although he regretted the game being taken out of his team's hands, he wouldn't use it as an excuse. "It was one of those games where it would have been nice if maybe we could have decided the outcome," he said. "[But] I'm not going to justify a loss by that, that's for sure -- we lost the hockey game, period."

Nevertheless, he felt the Rangers played a good game but lost because the bounces went the other way, and both of his stars felt the same way. "Solid performance," Renney said. "Solid effort. A couple of mistakes were capitalized on. I thought we played a good hockey game, one we could have won. If we play like this the balance of the games, we'll win more than we'll lose." One of the bad breaks was a centering pass by Alexei Ponikarovsky that deflected in off Aaron Ward's skate in front. A couple of other bad breaks were goal mouth chances by Shanahan that were deflected away, one before the Leafs took the lead, one after.

But the deciding goal was not a bad break, it was a bad error -- Karel Rachunek's pass to Martin Straka in front of the net was cut off by Ian White and quickly turned around into a breakaway pass to Sundin that he converted for the game winner. While Rachunek was a bit guilty of admiring his pass, the responsibility for Sundin belonged to his defense partner, Thomsa Pock, who initially started back into the neutral zone but then inexplicably turned back into the Leafs' zone. "You've got to cut the ice in half as the off-side defenseman and be in front of something that might come out," Renney said of the play. But he said that Pock wasn't benched for the costly miscue. "We were getting to the short strokes, so we decided to shorten the back end and try to generate more offense. I realize that's Tommy's forte but -- it's a learning experience [for him]."

The Rangers have now given up only eight goals (excluding one empty net goal) in their past six games (all Henrik Lundqvist). But they're only 3-3 in those games because they've scored only six goals in five of those six games (plus six in the sixth game)... In addition to Pock, Dan Girardi and Colton Orr saw no ice time after Sundin's go-ahead goal, while Adam Hall, Marcel Hossa, Blair Betts, and Jason Krog saw limited ice time rotating through Shanahan's line -- they generated just two shots on goal throughout the game (Shanahan also had four power play shots)... The line of Matt Cullen, Petr Prucha, and Jed Ortmeyer were matched up against Toronto's top line much of the time, and played them even (they scored on the power play and against the first line) -- although they were outshot 9-7 and Prucha took three penalties.

NY PJ1

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

the answer is your private message inbox.

what am i?? wood???????? lol

xavier mcdaniel

the answer lies in your inbox..

bostonlou

NY PJ1 wrote:

more than 3 people ,, i think your percentage is wrong ,,although bathy does have the most by far , and your off by 85 pages
and yes not many care about the sport in the U.S ( their loss)

its 10am beer time in boston enjoy lol

you really need to figure out how to get more posts on the page

although i doubt you'll be able to do it

Bathgate66 wrote:

wow that rhymes

Although the Bruins have only four fewer points than the Rangers, they have really struggled of late, losing nine of their last 12 games. They are only 2-3-0 since the loss at The Garden and have been outscored 20-10 in those games. In their last two outings, a home-and-home series with Ottawa interrupted by the All-Star break, the B's were outscored 6-1 and endured a scoreless stretch of 115:06, which finally ended with Glen Murray's third-period goal at Scotiabank Place on Saturday.

Boston ranks 29th out of 30 teams in overall defense and the only team below them is the Flyers squad that fell to the Rangers on Saturday. The primary difference between the B's and Flyers, however, is Boston's ability to score goals. The Bruins rank 18th in the league in goals per game .

so my team sucks... yet is only 4 points behind your amazing team

and we've lost 9 of 12

so the math works out that your team sucks too huh?




and congrats to you 3

besides me you actually had another person visit this thread

although I think moster78 was just drunk





this thread is pretty much bathgate talking to himself

go brooins

bostonlou

Bathgate66 wrote:

but of course

its boston
we pwn them- we win the 6th straight against this original 6 rival.

flurry of scoring

and how sweet was Shannys penalty shot ?

niiiiiiiiiiice



[size=+5] 6-1 [/size]

dude... you're 40

please never use the word pwn again

NY PJ1

bostonlou wrote:

you really need to figure out how to get more posts on the page

although i doubt you'll be able to do it






so my team sucks... yet is only 4 points behind your amazing team

and we've lost 9 of 12

so the math works out that your team sucks too huh?




and congrats to you 3

besides me you actually had another person visit this thread

although I think moster78 was just drunk





this thread is pretty much bathgate talking to himself

go brooins

this coming from a married man w/ 10,000 posts

who is known as the board clown

bostonlou

NY PJ1 wrote:

this coming from a married man w/ 10,000 posts

who is known as the board clown

i don't get what you're point is?

what does me being married or 10K posts have to do with anything as a reply to my message?






don't be jealous of my fame

NY PJ1

bostonlou wrote:

i don't get what you're point is?

what does me being married or 10K posts have to do with anything as a reply to my message?






don't be jealous of my fame

i go to bed everynight wishing i was you

moster78

bostonlou wrote:

and congrats to you 3

besides me you actually had another person visit this thread

although I think moster78 was just drunk

Sober as a judge man.

Yeah, X, just what do you do?

bostonlou

NY PJ1 wrote:

i go to bed everynight wishing i was you

is this before or after you crank one out dreaming of jeter or erod's purple lips?

bostonlou

Bruins Acquire 2008 Draft Pick In Exchange For Jurcina

Boston, MA- Boston Bruins General Manager Peter Chiarelli announced today that the club has acquired a fourth round pick in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft from the Washington Capitals in exchange for defenseman Milan Jurcina.

Jurcina, 23, was selected by Boston in the eighth round (241st overall) of the 2001 NHL Entry Draft. He made his NHL debut last season and saw action in 51 games, scoring six goals and tallying five assists. This season, Jurcina has played in 40 games, registering two goals and one assist.

The Bruins return to the TD Banknorth Garden tonight when they host the Sabres in the second half of the home-and-home series at 7:00 p.m. ET. Tonight, as every Thursday night game, is a Student Night. All high school and college students are eligible for one half-price ticket in the $45.50 and $55.00 price range with a valid student ID.

NY PJ1

bostonlou wrote:

is this before or after you crank one out dreaming of jeter or erod's purple lips?

ACTUALLY.. i crank one out while thinking of u

Bathgate66

bostonlou wrote:

Bruins Acquire 2008 Draft Pick In Exchange For Jurcina

Boston, MA- Boston Bruins General Manager Peter Chiarelli announced today that the club has acquired a fourth round pick in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft from the Washington Capitals in exchange for defenseman Milan Jurcina.

Jurcina, 23, was selected by Boston in the eighth round (241st overall) of the 2001 NHL Entry Draft. He made his NHL debut last season and saw action in 51 games, scoring six goals and tallying five assists. This season, Jurcina has played in 40 games, registering two goals and one assist.

The Bruins return to the TD Banknorth Garden tonight when they host the Sabres in the second half of the home-and-home series at 7:00 p.m. ET. Tonight, as every Thursday night game, is a Student Night. All high school and college students are eligible for one half-price ticket in the $45.50 and $55.00 price range with a valid student ID.

never- strictly Blueshirts here , buddy .

dont you realize your bantering is just driving up the very post counts you so strive to have ? so what if there are only 3, 4 , 5 , or even 6 of us , ..... and the 1 boston fan left in existence. :eek:
if you want to root for our team, we'll welcome you aboard.





(btw--- Steven Colbert doesnt like Bears or Bruins )


if you'd rather not, then youll have to go make your own bruins thread , you'll certainly be the only fan posting there ( since it appears that you are the only one left ) - we'll all oblige and visit for you, pal .

Bathgate66

Malik injured in last nights Toronto game?

Malik, placed on IR ?





if this is true, i want to personally thank the Toronto Maple Leafs for doing what Tom Renney has been unable to do, or just plain out refused to do , for the last 4 months .


thanks Leafs !

Oh and if the next upper echelon team we face ( not the bruins or flyers ) if you could please take out Rachunek , us beloved Blueshirt faithful would really really appreciate it !

thanks !

NY PJ1

Bathgate66 wrote:

never- strictly Blueshirts here , buddy .

dont you realize your bantering is just driving up the very post counts you so strive to have ? so what if there are only 3, 4 , 5 , or even 6 of us , ..... and the 1 boston fan left in existence. :eek:
if you want to root for our team, we'll welcome you aboard.





(btw--- Steven Colbert doesnt like Bears or Bruins )


if you'd rather not, then youll have to go make your own bruins thread , you'll certainly be the only fan posting there ( since it appears that you are the only one left ) - we'll all oblige and visit for you, pal .

im from boston i have 10,000 posts !!! yeee hawwww
i have these dreams that pj loves my town lol

NY PJ1

story on fox about the thought of trading shanny at the deadline

its actually something to think about

if he would agree to it and we can get a young player and a pick or two ??

hmnnnnnnnnnnnn

u know alot of the real contenders would love to have him

iam by no means giving up on the season but realisticaly i dont think we have the horses to make a serious run ,,

that being said unless we completely nose dive the next 3 weeks ,,it probably wont happen

bostonlou

NY PJ1 wrote:

im from boston i have 10,000 posts !!! yeee hawwww
i have these dreams that pj loves my town lol

if you didn't try so hard then you might actually be funny

unfortunately you just suck


sorry

NY PJ1

bostonlou wrote:

if you didn't try so hard then you might actually be funny

unfortunately you just suck


sorry

beat it the porch needs your humor