The 2008 New York Yankees

Fighting Hellfish

Joba had a touch of Farnsworth Syndrome tonight. All season, really, but it festered tonight. The worst was listening to Waldman try and make excuses for him about butterflies, and how hard it is to throw strikes in the first inning. If you can throw strikes in the 8th inning, you can throw strikes in the 1st inning. he stunk up the joint tonight, plain and simple. he certainly doesn't need Sterling and Waldman making excuses for him

xavier mcdaniel

i heard one cut of the broadcast and sterling was saying how toronto's first run was the softest run you'll ever see. jeez, how bout pointing out the great at-bat by stewart that set it up.

also, it was kind of amusing to see all the hype for this and roy halladay's six gritty innings fly under the radar.

Fighting Hellfish

6 innings is practically a half day at the office for Halladay. He's thrown 4 or 5 complete games already this year. The sad part is most of them have been losses. they don't make them like Ol' Doc anymore. Imagine if he could have stayed healthy his whole career

igotid88

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

Joba had a touch of Farnsworth Syndrome tonight. All season, really, but it festered tonight. The worst was listening to Waldman try and make excuses for him about butterflies, and how hard it is to throw strikes in the first inning. If you can throw strikes in the 8th inning, you can throw strikes in the 1st inning. he stunk up the joint tonight, plain and simple. he certainly doesn't need Sterling and Waldman making excuses for him

I think the Blue Jay's plan was to take pitches. And the ump from the little I was able to see. Had a tight strike zone. Might be wrong. But his next start is against the Royals. So hopefully it will be better. But you can't expect too much too quick. Maybe his third start will be a better look.

xavier mcdaniel

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

6 innings is practically a half day at the office for Halladay. He's thrown 4 or 5 complete games already this year. The sad part is most of them have been losses. they don't make them like Ol' Doc anymore. Imagine if he could have stayed healthy his whole career

i figured if the jays added on, they'd take him out. he was at 102 through six. but i would have found it hard to believe that gibbons would bring armando benitez into a one-run game.

Fighting Hellfish

igotid88 wrote:

I think thr Blue Jay's plan was to take pitches. And the ump from the little I was able to see. Had a tight strike zone. Might be wrong. But his next start is against the Royals. So hopefully it will be better. But you can't expect too much too quick. Maybe his third start will be a better look.

I figured the Jays would try that. That's very easy to defend against though. Strike 1, every batter. Especially when you have overpowering stuff. I'm not getting down on the guy though. I think he'll be fine, though I do think he hasn't been great since he went home for a week to be with his father. He's been very good since returning, but hasn't been the dominant Joba.

Fighting Hellfish

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

i figured if the jays added on, they'd take him out. he was at 102 through six. but i would have found it hard to believe that gibbons would bring armando benitez into a one-run game.

I just looked up his stats. Before tonight, he had made 11 starts, and thrown 89 innings, 2 of which came in a relief appearance. 5 complete games. Averaging a hair under 8 innings per start. The only reason I know so much (not the stats, had to look thsoe up) is because I traded Carlos Beltran to my brother in law for Halladay in a rotisserie keeper league over the winter

xavier mcdaniel

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

I just looked up his stats. Before tonight, he had made 11 starts, and thrown 89 innings, 2 of which came in a relief appearance. 5 complete games. Averaging a hair under 8 innings per start. The only reason I know so much (not the stats, had to look thsoe up) is because I traded Carlos Beltran to my brother in law for Halladay in a rotisserie keeper league over the winter

jeez, that's amazing, he's also one the quickest pitchers in the game. i know they tell pitchers to slow the game down when guys are on, but joba was incredibly slow with guys on and perhaps that led to some overthrowing since he might have been thinking more in between pitches.

Champagne Breakfast

Not to be a downer,...but I'm starting to think this squad is just not very good this year. Plain and simple. They often just seem so flat and lifeless(excpet for Joba & Girardi). The damn O's are more energetic and exciting to watch. The strange part is I really do think they have the right manager in Girardi. It may just be they now need a Girardi team which they dont have THIS year. Maybe a step back year in order to take a big step forward.

rearviewmiror

A standing ovation? Man that was weird.

NY PJ1

at least the bullpen looked good in the 8th .....

this team has 0 chance with this bullpen

Danimal

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/080603

NY PJ1

Danimal wrote:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/080603

great article :rolleyes:

this guy needs to stop with the humor,, not funny

macci

NY PJ1 wrote:

at least the bullpen looked good in the 8th .....

this team has 0 chance with this bullpen

Couldn't agree more - either move Joba back to the pen or call up some young arms who can get people out.

smarchee

The 2008 New York Yankees.........

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are in last place

GO JAYS GO !!!

NCBRI

igotid88 wrote:

Giambi goes the other way!! Giambi goes the other way!!

So that explains the golden thong. Seriously though, nothing frustrates me more than a major league hitter who faces the shift and continues to hit grounders to the second baseman/4th outfielder. Didn't Giambi hit the ball the other way earlier in his career when he was in Oakland?

igotid88

macci wrote:

Couldn't agree more - either move Joba back to the pen or call up some young arms who can get people out.

They have some young hurlers they're thinking of bringing up in case Farnsworth or Hawkins can't do the job. I forget their names. But they've promoted a few pitchers.

xavier mcdaniel

you might be referring to j.b. cox, daniel mccutchen and mark melancon.

igotid88

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

you might be referring to j.b. cox, daniel mccutchen and mark melancon.

yea. i heard one or two of those guys can be like Joba was last year.

igotid88

Any of you find it wierd that only about 700 or so of Jeter's hits out the 2416 were hit to right. I was thinking 1900 went to right.