the official JULY 1ST 2008 NHL FREE AGENT THREAD!!

Rygar

NY PJ1 wrote:

???? we shall see

With Malone almost definitely flying the coop out of Pittsburgh they're looking like they'll be able to resign Hossa, too.

NY PJ1

Rygar wrote:

With Malone almost definitely flying the coop out of Pittsburgh they're looking like they'll be able to resign Hossa, too.

i posted in the rangers thread about malkin coming to ny if they resign hossa

NY PJ1

MALKIN TO THE RANGERS?
Posted 11:29 AM ET | Comments 14 Ok,Ok this is just speculation but the Rangers and the Pens have a deep history of making trades. So no one can respond that the Pens would never move one of the best centers in the game to a division rival. But with hints in the air that Malkin may become expendable if Hossa signs back on in the Steel city,it's got to be explored.Looking back on past trades,the two teams may have appeared to be South American gun runners and not NHl clubs with all the fire power moving east to west. In 98 the Rangers sent Kovalev to PA for Petr Nedved hoping to fill in their center position. In 2003 the Rangers sent a slew of marginal players and Stanley Cup champ Mikael Samuelson to the Pens to take him back. In Aug 1995 the Rangers would make one of their worst deals in history sending Sergei Zubov and Petr Nedved to the Pens for Luc Robitaille and Ulf Samuelsson. The deal has been recently deemed the worst in recent history on Blueshirtbulletin.com.,in a fan poll. Even though both teams failed to reach their Stanley cup goals after making these deals, their sure wasn't a lack of star power and possibilities.

The Rangers are firm on committing to youth and development,while playing around a core of Drury,Gomez,and Lundqvist.I also know they need another legitimate D-Man on the point such as Jay-BOW.But to imagine a line of Malkin with Alexei Cherepanov,and Anisimov (now on the wing) is a really something to ponder. The Penguins like the Rangers,are on the path of greatness. However, it's clear that they have their poster boy already and with Sid in town Malkin holds back a gear. Evgeni had no problem shifting the Ferrari into 4th at Madison Square Garden,and his postseason performance vs. the Rangers had an edge. It's been rumored that Malkin ( who is English shy) is holding Penguins brass under AK-47 pressure,to keep fellow countrymen Sergei Gonchar in black and gold longer term. Would Malkin press hard for a deal to the Rangers knowing that Brooklyn's Brighton Beach is one of the largest Russian communities stateside. It's no fluke that after the Rangers had drafted Cherepanov 17th overall last year in the draft ,that the club was snapping pictures with sexy Russian models in the neighborhood. With NY's ethnic diversity they can play cards that other cities can't and when Sergei Zubov was moved in 95 he missed the city and its proximity to the Brooklyn Moscow. Not only would Malkin have 3 fellow Russians on the club ( assuming Tyutin is not part of the deal),but his agent must drool over the idea of seeing his clients image,jersey,and product all over Manhattan buildings.

I'll let most of you guys figure out possible trade scenarios but,here's some options.Te Rangers could let the Pens pick from any one of several young forwards but Petr Prucha looks to be the most attractive. He could play on the wing with Sid and Hossa and his 30 goal potential is back again. He is also making just over a million dollars so his salary and wing position allows them to fit him in easily.The Pens may want to add a little grit and scoring on the wing as well so Ryan Callahan and his $575,000 salary ease the potential loss of veterans Ruutu or Malone.The Rangers would also have to provide at least 2 first round picks in this and the next draft. With the Draft as deep as it is this year,the Rangers could use its depth as leverage. The Penguins don't have a first rounder this year because of the Hossa deal with Atlanta,and we all know how the Pens keep their hands near the cookie jar. For the Rangers,they need depth at the defensive position and they will be able to find an adequate blue liner in the second round. As most of the Ranger vets near the end of the road,it's becoming more apparent that they are going to need skilled forwards too. Malkin is a beast on the boards and after taking out Mara's legs ( Bad move),he does play with some snarl. I wonder if a Devil takes a run at Cherepanov,if we wouldn't see him take out a few more legs. Speaking Of Cherepanov,it may make bringing him over next year that much easier. With all the issues with the new Russian League the Rangers could use one more card up their sleeve too. Rangers fans may not have to see many growing pains with Cherepanovs game,as Malkin helped Ryan Malone bring his play to new levels. Adding another 6'3" Anisimov to the opposite wing also opens up room for the Russian sniper,and allows him to cash in on Malkins rebounds. Speaking of rebounds the Rangers have been looking for a PP point man for the last few years and after watching Malkins heavy bomb from the point,is there a better shot out there. They already have explored idea using Straka,Cullen,and even brining in Brian Rolston to man the point.But none of those players are the T-72 tank that Malkin is.Moving back to the deal,the Penguins could have Dan Gerardi, ( although it will burn) to fill in the losses of Brooks Orpik and Mark Eaton.So now that's Gerardi,Callahan,Prucha and two first round picks to get started. Staal is off limits so is Sanguinetti,so take it easy Shero with the demands. He will get offers from the Kings and just about every other NHL team ,but needs to take certain things into account. First,Ranger prospects and players are draft with the size of their heart first. It is no shock that most of our young core is playing with the big club because they worked for it. Much of the Rangers team success is attributed to their accelerated development and their desire to win. Shero Will have to gamble on other NHL prospects and the possibility of throwing a wrench into the Penguins recent success and Therriens defensive system. Rangers young forwards aren't shy of back checking and adding 8 possible matches and amped up adrenaline never hurts. Last Shero has to consider that the NHL is no longer the only main option,especially for European superstars. Russian League loopholes are allowing NHL players to jump ship and sign contracts despite NHL commitments. If Malkin starts throwing around threats,it's possible that he could sway a deal to NY over LA.
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Rygar

There is no way Malkin is getting traded, that's just a Rag's dream. They'd keep him before they kept Hossa.

leafs4ever

no way malkin gets traded, if anyone from the pens goes it'll be stall and i hope the leafs can put in a good offer for him.
I'm hoping the leafs get orpik and malone (depending on what he signs for). I've heard he'll get around 4mil a year which is too much for us. Something around 3-3.5 i could handle though.
Besides that i really don't know who we are going to go after besides resigning mats to about 7/year for 2 years. Trade for another top 10 pick and grab Hodgson/Boedker/Scheen with the #7 and Beach with the other 1. Just what i'm hoping for

Phantom Pain

Rygar wrote:

Where's Jokinin goin?

I posted earlier in this thread a couple of rumors

Nothing concrete of course

Rygar

Prospal is back to the Lightning from the Flyers.

chromiam

Rygar wrote:

Prospal is back to the Lightning from the Flyers.

yeah for a 7th rounder and a bag of pucks no surprise here, just nice to get something for him rather than him just resigning with Tampa.

Rygar

NY PJ1 wrote:

Word out of NY today from two sources is that NY Rangers are targeting Wade Redden HEAVILY. "The Rangers are pretty confident that they can land Redden," a source told me. Other teams interested: Boston (Chara Redden Reunited?), NJ, Phoenix, and Edmonton...

Speaking of Edmonton...Look for Kevin Lowe to be VERY active this weekend. Darren Dreger from TSN spoke of a possible trade involving one-time Cup rivals Edmonton and Carolina. Darren mentioned Cole or Ruutu possibly heading to Edmonton for Pitkanen... I am hearing Ruutu is extremely possible, not so much Cole. That doesn't mean that Cole won't be moved however.

What is interesting is how this will mark the second straight draft that the Canes will attempt to grab Pitkanen. There was a trade that came REALLY close to happening last year. A three way deal that would have sent Pitkanen to the Hurricanes and included Edmonton as well, while Pitkanen was still a member of the Flyers.

Sean Avery to the Islanders? hmmmmm.....

Bryan Murray said he tried to deal Redden's rights but had no takers.

Rygar

Rygar wrote:

Bryan Murray said he tried to deal Redden's rights but had no takers.

Ray Emery and Dan Cloutier put on waivers.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241222&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_nhl

NY PJ1

Tyutin, dubi, the 20th pick and 51st picks





To the KINGS



For



Mike Cammaleri

And the # 2 pick


BIG RUMOR,,, WE BETTER NOT DO THIS

Rygar

NY PJ1 wrote:

Tyutin, dubi, the 20th pick and 51st picks





To the KINGS



For



Mike Cammaleri

And the # 2 pick


BIG RUMOR,,, WE BETTER NOT DO THIS

Where did this rumor come from?

Rygar

http://sports.sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/abc/News/ContentPosting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CBC-SPORTS-V2&showbyline=True&newsitemid=leafs-sundin-habs
This would be the funniest fucking thing ever to happen to Leafs' fans, short of Doug Gilmour playing for Montreal.

Rygar

I guess I stand corrected, apologies to Ken.

- Montreal got Tanguay from Calgary and a 2008 fifth round pick in exchange for the 25th overall selection and a 2009 second round pick.
- Biggest is Olli Jokinen gone to Phoenix for Nick Boynton, Keith Ballard, and a 49th overall pick
- Mike Cammalleri gone to Calgary for their 17th overall pick, which the Kings sent, along with their 28th overall to Anaheim for Anaheim's 12th overall.
- And finally the goofy gunter, RJ Umberger, sent to Columbus along with the 119th overall for Columbus' 19th and 67th picks.

Rygar

Hossa talks done (for now) with Pittsburgh.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241327&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

Rygar

Gary Roberts reportedly heading to free agency.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241516&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

chromiam

Rygar wrote:

Hossa talks done (for now) with Pittsburgh.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241327&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

Rygar wrote:

Gary Roberts reportedly heading to free agency.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2415... opStory_main

Damn what happened to "everyone wants to stay and play in Pittsburgh for less money"????

Rygar

chromiam wrote:

Damn what happened to "everyone wants to stay and play in Pittsburgh for less money"????

They said less money, but didn't mean LESS money

Wait'll you see how much the Rangers give Sundin!

chromiam

Rygar wrote:

They said less money, but didn't mean LESS money

Wait'll you see how much the Rangers give Sundin!

The Rangers are reverting to their old scheme of overpaying veteran (older) players??? Yes!! as a Flyers fan I couldn't be happier

With that said, it sucked losing Umberger this weekend but it had to be done. I don't think the deal was bad and there was no way we were going to sign him, Carter, Jones, and still have cap space to try for a FA D-man. I liked the draft, the picks look to have some nice upside and Eminger might be a nice fit in a new town.

Rygar

chromiam wrote:

The Rangers are reverting to their old scheme of overpaying veteran (older) players??? Yes!! as a Flyers fan I couldn't be happier

With that said, it sucked losing Umberger this weekend but it had to be done. I don't think the deal was bad and there was no way we were going to sign him, Carter, Jones, and still have cap space to try for a FA D-man. I liked the draft, the picks look to have some nice upside and Eminger might be a nice fit in a new town.

That's speculation, of course, but I expect the Rags and Wings to leave Montreal in the dust in the bidding war for Sundin come July 1st.

I dislike Umberger a lot, so it's easy to tell you that he was overachieving and you don't need him