Can you really force someone to change their cultural beliefs? Isn't that a choice.
Also, wouldn't you agree that changing cultural beliefs isn't always a bad thing?
Adding to one's cultural beliefs/ways is perfectly fine. It's important we embrace the cultural beliefs we are ingrained with as they are a part of us. We don't have to be attached to them, but rather in harmony and at peace with our own.
On the other hand, convincing someone that their way is wrong and attempting to implant one's beliefs upon another can create ill-health and imbalance. That's about abuse of power. Coercing someone to make a choice is unhealthy.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
He's making a joke. You may not find it funny. Some do, myself included. If the OP was revealed to be Carlos Mencia the rest of you would be laughing too because then it would be "ok".
no, I still wouldn't be laughing. FYI Mencia is no Mexican either. He just likes to pretend he's one to capitalize on the success of other Mexican comedians. I find your comments very insensitive.
Turn one of those huts into a Taco Bell and see how often they start eating there...
soon enough they'll all be aimlessly wandering around looking for lotto tickets to scratch, and mumbling "biggie size combo" repeatedly.
Now THAT'S progress!
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Never ceases to amaze me the lack of a sense of humor, by some people.
Mexicans.....hahaha! That was some funny stuff. .
I don't get it.
If these people lived on farms with straw hats and played in mariachi bands then it would make sense.
These are native south Americans who live thousands of miles away from Mexico. It's like calling them Canadians or Chinese or something and somehow thinking its funny.
Shouldn't we attack them with forced, government-sponsored education and healthcare??
After all, those are the main planks that our politicians run on. Why is OK to force those things on Americans, but not a tribe in Peru?
I know you got some stick for this earlier, but I understand your point. And as a libertarian, I'd like all governments to leave all people alone.
Governments are certainly into social/cultural engineering, telling us who we can hire, what we can't ingest, who we can't marry, what we can't say, prohibitting us from entering into mutually agreed upon contracts if it is something they don't like, taxing us for doing things they don't want us to do while providing subsidies for doing things they want us to do.
So I get your point that it is hypocritical for some people to say that they wish the tribal culture was protected from their national government, and at the same time support a Republican or Democrat for President here knowing that both parties are interested in growing government, stealing liberty, and continuing their cultural engineering.
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He's making a joke. You may not find it funny. Some do, myself included. If the OP was revealed to be Carlos Mencia the rest of you would be laughing too because then it would be "ok".
Mencia is not Mexican. That's what makes it even funnier.
I sincerely hope that American missionaries keep their arrogant, ignorant, and diseased fucking hands off these people.
They've already caused enough genocide - both physical and cultural - in that part of the world.
You act like the United States invented imperialism and all of its nasty side effects...you need to quit grinding on that ax. We learned our lessons well from our various colonial forefathers.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
You act like the United States invented imperialism and all of its nasty side effects...you need to quit grinding on that ax. We learned our lessons well from our various colonial forefathers.
its just 8 odd countires - england, france, spain, portugal, holland, belgium, russia and japan, that are the cause of most of the problems (land disputes, problems of poverty etc etc) in the world
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I've been crying all these years
I know you got some stick for this earlier, but I understand your point. And as a libertarian, I'd like all governments to leave all people alone.
Governments are certainly into social/cultural engineering, telling us who we can hire, what we can't ingest, who we can't marry, what we can't say, prohibitting us from entering into mutually agreed upon contracts if it is something they don't like, taxing us for doing things they don't want us to do while providing subsidies for doing things they want us to do.
So I get your point that it is hypocritical for some people to say that they wish the tribal culture was protected from their national government, and at the same time support a Republican or Democrat for President here knowing that both parties are interested in growing government, stealing liberty, and continuing their cultural engineering.
Yep - that's what I meant...although you said it much better.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
i was just washing dishes and thought about something
wouldn't it be funny if life forms in our universe held us in the same regards...
"Leave those humans alone .... they believe in their jesus and shit and don't know crap.... if we make contact with them, their entire existance is turned upside down"
as they fly over
its just 8 odd countires - england, france, spain, portugal, holland, belgium, russia and japan, that are the cause of most of the problems (land disputes, problems of poverty etc etc) in the world
Being the former seat of the empire, Turkey might deserve some credit in that list...or maybe just refer to the former empire.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
Mencia is not Mexican. That's what makes it even funnier.
ahahahaaaaa
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i was just washing dishes and thought about something
wouldn't it be funny if life forms in our universe held us in the same regards...
"Leave those humans alone .... they believe in their jesus and shit and don't know crap.... if we make contact with them, their entire existance is turned upside down"
as they fly over
poor dumb ....us
back to the dishes
..oh and jesus hates you
Depends on what those aliens own planet was like. If it was a planet ravaged by wars, inequality, and environmental destruction then maybe they'd be right to leave us alone.
P.s, U.F.O's don't look anything like dishes anymore. That was so 60's man! :rolleyes:
Adding to one's cultural beliefs/ways is perfectly fine. It's important we embrace the cultural beliefs we are ingrained with as they are a part of us. We don't have to be attached to them, but rather in harmony and at peace with our own....
im sorry, this makes no fucking sense to me. no way on earth should i embrace 'my' cultural beliefs just cause theyre 'ingrained' into me. i reject anything i dont feel sits comfortably with my personal beliefs. and i do so after close and careful consideration as to whether my life will be somehow bettered if i do choose to embrace whatever the hell it is being shoved down my throat. thats the beauty of being a critically thinking organism. i can choose to hold close anything i find beneficial or disregard anything i feel is deterimental to my well being. that is what is important to, and for, me. harmony and peace my arse.
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take a good look
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lie beside me
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Can you really force someone to change their cultural beliefs? Isn't that a choice.
No, it's not a choise. Coercion and intimidation play a big part.
Again, I refer you to Norman Lewis' book 'The missionaries'. He documented pretty conclusively what goes on in these situations.
Shouldn't we attack them with forced, government-sponsored education and healthcare??
After all, those are the main planks that our politicians run on. Why is OK to force those things on Americans, but not a tribe in Peru?
Do you think that they have to pay for healthcare or education?
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Mencia is not Mexican. That's what makes it even funnier.
And his real first name is "Ned"
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
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On the other hand, convincing someone that their way is wrong and attempting to implant one's beliefs upon another can create ill-health and imbalance. That's about abuse of power. Coercing someone to make a choice is unhealthy.
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no, I still wouldn't be laughing. FYI Mencia is no Mexican either. He just likes to pretend he's one to capitalize on the success of other Mexican comedians. I find your comments very insensitive.
soon enough they'll all be aimlessly wandering around looking for lotto tickets to scratch, and mumbling "biggie size combo" repeatedly.
Now THAT'S progress!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Mexicans.....hahaha! That was some funny stuff. .
If these people lived on farms with straw hats and played in mariachi bands then it would make sense.
These are native south Americans who live thousands of miles away from Mexico. It's like calling them Canadians or Chinese or something and somehow thinking its funny.
Take my hand, my child of love
Come step inside my tears
Swim the magic ocean,
I've been crying all these years
Take my hand, my child of love
Come step inside my tears
Swim the magic ocean,
I've been crying all these years
Take my hand, my child of love
Come step inside my tears
Swim the magic ocean,
I've been crying all these years
I know you got some stick for this earlier, but I understand your point. And as a libertarian, I'd like all governments to leave all people alone.
Governments are certainly into social/cultural engineering, telling us who we can hire, what we can't ingest, who we can't marry, what we can't say, prohibitting us from entering into mutually agreed upon contracts if it is something they don't like, taxing us for doing things they don't want us to do while providing subsidies for doing things they want us to do.
So I get your point that it is hypocritical for some people to say that they wish the tribal culture was protected from their national government, and at the same time support a Republican or Democrat for President here knowing that both parties are interested in growing government, stealing liberty, and continuing their cultural engineering.
Mencia is not Mexican. That's what makes it even funnier.
That's the joke.
To a lot of Americans, anyone living below the border of the United States is a Mexican.
They don't know any better. They see darker skin, latin-american features; must be a Mexican.
Take my hand, my child of love
Come step inside my tears
Swim the magic ocean,
I've been crying all these years
Yep - that's what I meant...although you said it much better.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
maybe
thanks holmes
i'm harmless... so just laugh
That's the way I took it, too.
That the OP was poking fun at the idiotic racism of Americans rather.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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gas guzzlers the lot of them
wouldn't it be funny if life forms in our universe held us in the same regards...
"Leave those humans alone .... they believe in their jesus and shit and don't know crap.... if we make contact with them, their entire existance is turned upside down"
as they fly over
poor dumb ....us
back to the dishes
..oh and jesus hates you
ahahahaaaaa
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Depends on what those aliens own planet was like. If it was a planet ravaged by wars, inequality, and environmental destruction then maybe they'd be right to leave us alone.
P.s, U.F.O's don't look anything like dishes anymore. That was so 60's man! :rolleyes:
wow.someone thinks like me...............scary.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
im sorry, this makes no fucking sense to me. no way on earth should i embrace 'my' cultural beliefs just cause theyre 'ingrained' into me. i reject anything i dont feel sits comfortably with my personal beliefs. and i do so after close and careful consideration as to whether my life will be somehow bettered if i do choose to embrace whatever the hell it is being shoved down my throat. thats the beauty of being a critically thinking organism. i can choose to hold close anything i find beneficial or disregard anything i feel is deterimental to my well being. that is what is important to, and for, me. harmony and peace my arse.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
No, it's not a choise. Coercion and intimidation play a big part.
Again, I refer you to Norman Lewis' book 'The missionaries'. He documented pretty conclusively what goes on in these situations.
Do you think that they have to pay for healthcare or education?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
And his real first name is "Ned"
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln