Uncontacted Tribes Found & Photographed

wwfairfieldwwfairfield Posts: 216
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
Check out how freaked these mexicans are....
can you imagine??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7426869.stm
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  • wwfairfieldwwfairfield Posts: 216
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7426794.stm

    Isolated tribe spotted in Brazil

    One of South America's few remaining uncontacted indigenous tribes has been spotted and photographed on the border between Brazil and Peru.

    The Brazilian government says it took the images to prove the tribe exists and help protect its land.

    The pictures, taken from an aeroplane, show red-painted tribe members brandishing bows and arrows.

    More than half the world's 100 uncontacted tribes live in Brazil or Peru, Survival International says.

    Stephen Corry, the director of the group - which supports tribal people around the world - said such tribes would "soon be made extinct" if their land was not protected.

    'Monumental crime'

    Survival International says that although this particular group is increasing in number, others in the area are at risk from illegal logging.
    The photos were taken during several flights over one of the most remote parts of the Amazon rainforest in Brazil's Acre region.

    They show tribe members outside thatched huts, surrounded by the dense jungle, pointing bows and arrows up at the camera.

    "We did the overflight to show their houses, to show they are there, to show they exist," the group quoted Jose Carlos dos Reis Meirelles Junior, an official in the Brazilian government's Indian affairs department, as saying.

    "This is very important because there are some who doubt their existence."

    He described the threats to such tribes and their land as "a monumental crime against the natural world" and "further testimony to the complete irrationality with which we, the 'civilised' ones, treat the world".

    Disease is also a risk, as members of tribal groups that have been contacted in the past have died of illnesses that they have no defence against, ranging from chicken pox to the common cold.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Check out how freaked these mexicans are....

    I'm pretty sure no Mexican people are living with the indigenous people of this tribe in Brazil.


    The pictures are amazing, though. Hopefully they'll be left alone to keep doing what they're doing.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • NYbenbenNYbenben Posts: 1,020
    can you imagine what hey must think about a helicopter flying overhead? UNCONTACTED by modern civilization... HOLY CRAP!!
    4/12/92, 8/11/92, 9/28/96, 9/11/98, 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 7/9/03, 4/30/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 12/9/05, 5/12/06, 5/17/06, 5/28/06, 6/3/06, 12/9/06, EV LA 4/12-4/13/08, 6/12/08, 6,19,08, 6,20,08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 7/1/08

    and still jonesing for another show....
    "the waiting drove me mad..."
  • wwfairfieldwwfairfield Posts: 216
  • wwfairfieldwwfairfield Posts: 216
    NYbenben wrote:
    can you imagine what hey must think about a helicopter flying overhead? UNCONTACTED by modern civilization... HOLY CRAP!!

    seriously
    it is like when the dudes who mow my lawn see my ipod or my laptop
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I doubt anyone will make contact with them unless they want to risk the chance of being eaten.
  • wwfairfieldwwfairfield Posts: 216
    unsung wrote:
    I doubt anyone will make contact with them unless they want to risk the chance of being eaten.


    just because they are mexican doesn't mean they eat people

    i harken back to prince ahkeem when he is ask if that is "ultra-perm" in his hair


    and might i remind you jeff dahmer ate people and he was white and american before he was sodomized to death with a broken mop handle

    so there
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Why don't you quit calling them Mexicans?
  • ClariceClarice Posts: 256
    jeffbr wrote:
    The pictures are amazing, though. Hopefully they'll be left alone to keep doing what they're doing.

    Exactly what the director of Funai said: we dont know nothing about them and the idea is keeping dont know.

    Actually the brazilian government knows the challenge is great to guarantee those indigenous stay safe. Specially after the midia talked a lot about this. Amazonia is a land covet and Funai calculated a close of 40 tribes uncontacted in all the region. 20 is already knowed but still uncontacted.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,250
    Check out how freaked these mexicans are....
    can you imagine??

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7426869.stm

    hey genius look at the map of the world MEXICO is a bit farther up north from BRAZIL & PERU ,you hick ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    Why don't you quit calling them Mexicans?

    Don't listen to this guy. It's funny!
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    These people are probably more spiritually advanced than most of the people in the US.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,250
    Commy wrote:
    These people are probably more spiritually advanced than most of the people in the US.

    agreed they are one with the living world :)
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • ClariceClarice Posts: 256
    http://www.imagensdobrasil.art.br/

    It´s a link of the website of my friend Renato Soares, one photographer who has a great job with a lot of tribes in Amazonia (please, they arent crazy and no mexicans)..It´s very beatiful. He traveled with Orlando Vilas Boas, one incredible man who dedicated his life to make a serious study about this environment and the indigineous.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    agreed they are one with the living world :)
    There is no such thing as the noble savage.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    tybird wrote:
    There is no such thing as the noble savage.
    why do you consider these people to be "savage"? just curious...
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,250
    tybird wrote:
    There is no such thing as the noble savage.

    you are the savage you hick where ever you come from ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I'm certain Tybird is not being derogatory. For a quick overview of the concept of noble savage try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • BetterThanYouBetterThanYou Posts: 853
    i didn't read the whole thread, so i don't know if this has been said, but this made me chuckle: "Funai says it does not make contact with the tribes..."
    yeah, except for multiple fly-by's.
    "Have you ever.........pooped a balloon?"
    ~D.K.S.
  • First Thought That Popped In My Head Upon Seeing These Images: Who was the fucking idiot who went on this shoot and forgot the high powered telephoto lens? Man the pictures really suck donkey. And yeah, i got that they were aiming highly sophisticated terrorist weapons at the helicopter. ;)
    Commy wrote:
    why do you consider these people to be "savage"? just curious...

    See JeffBr's comment.
    He isn't being an ass,
    he's making an intelligent (though, perhaps controversial) observation.

    He's saying the assumption that there was some "golden age" of tribal harmony with self, eachother, and nature is largely an erroneous one.

    Man has always had some form of adversarial or antagonistic relationships, within the tribe, and with other tribes, and with the larger forces of nature. Further, the notion that the primitive man was some how at peace or one with himself and in a state of relative bliss is an unproven and likely naive notion.

    I think that is all he was really getting at.

    Before reacting to words,
    we should all try to understand the words as they are written.

    That is something i struggle with in this place all the time.
    Reactionary responses that fail to even account for the sentiment the original poster was actually expressing are rampant around this place. Read, research, then respond.

    :D
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  • Whoa check out those angry back woods Mexicans.

    I bet they were making taco's and tortillas when they got interrupted by the helicopter, so they got ticked.

    Sigh...Mexico...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    First Thought That Popped In My Head Upon Seeing These Images: Who was the fucking idiot who went on this shoot and forgot the high powered telephoto lens? Man the pictures really suck donkey. And yeah, i got that they were aiming highly sophisticated terrorist weapons at the helicopter. ;)



    See JeffBr's comment.
    He isn't being an ass,
    he's making an intelligent (though, perhaps controversial) observation.

    He's saying the assumption that there was some "golden age" of tribal harmony with self, eachother, and nature is largely an erroneous one.

    Man has always had some form of adversarial or antagonistic relationships, within the tribe, and with other tribes, and with the larger forces of nature. Further, the notion that the primitive man was some how at peace or one with himself and in a state of relative bliss is an unproven and likely naive notion.

    I think that is all he was really getting at.

    Before reacting to words,
    we should all try to understand the words as they are written.

    That is something i struggle with in this place all the time.
    Reactionary responses that fail to even account for the sentiment the original poster was actually expressing are rampant around this place. Read, research, then respond.

    :D

    Actually it was a simple question. Why do you consider these people to be savage? You referred me to the original poster-racist-as evidenced by his remarks-but have yet to answer the fucking question.
  • Commy wrote:
    Actually it was a simple question. Why do you consider these people to be savage? You referred me to the original poster-racist-as evidenced by his remarks-but have yet to answer the fucking question.

    it wasn't a racist remark, for crying out loud.
    settle down.

    go read what "noble savage" means.

    first, "savage" as implicated in the term "noble savage" is a reference to ANY peoples who do not have contact with "modern" life and contrivances.

    Tybird is just refuting another poster who is insinuating that these people are "at one with the living world".
    That reference directly envokes the notion of "the noble savage", which is a literary term.

    His response about there being no such thing as a noble savage was an etymological reference to the term, not some racist remark.

    settle the fuck down, and understand what you are talking about before you start insulting people and jumping up and down like a raving looney.

    jesus, people.
    like i said.
    Read. RESEARCH. THEN respond.
    :cool:
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    it wasn't a racist remark, for crying out loud.
    settle down.

    go read what "noble savage" means.

    first, "savage" as implicated in the term "noble savage" is a reference to ANY peoples who do not have contact with "modern" life and contrivances.
    1. fierce, ferocious, or cruel; untamed: savage beasts.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/savage.
    Tybird is just refuting another poster who is insinuating that these people are "at one with the living world".

    Who is to say they are not?

    That reference directly envokes the notion of "the noble savage", which is a literary term.

    Which also implies meaning, whatever you call it. The definition is listed above.
    His response about there being no such thing as a noble savage was an etymological reference to the term, not some racist remark.
    agreed, there is no such thing as a noble savage-so why use the phrase in reference to these people?
    settle the fuck down, and understand what you are talking about before you start insulting people and jumping up and down like a raving looney.
    interesting you see me jumping up and down like a raving looney, It's not about that. Simply a matter of principle.
    jesus, people.
    like i said.
    Read. RESEARCH. THEN respond.
    :cool:

    So I have.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Commy wrote:
    These people are probably more spiritually advanced than most of the people in the US.


    Yeah but they don't have Blackberries or iPods. So hah!
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    unsung wrote:
    Yeah but they don't have Blackberries or iPods. So hah!
    Maybe they do have blackberries...what do we know? ipods? My ipod is useless..
  • wwfairfieldwwfairfield Posts: 216
    so these fuckers are going to burn in hell for eternity because they don't lick jesus' balls?
    poor mexicans
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    Times like these I wish the Prime Directive wasn't from fiction. I really hope those tribes are left alone.
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  • so these fuckers are going to burn in hell for eternity because they don't lick jesus' balls?
    poor mexicans

    hahahahahahhaha


    i just couldn't help it.:D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • Commy wrote:
    1. fierce, ferocious, or cruel; untamed: savage beasts.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/savage.

    Thats the definition for "SAVAGE", not "NOBLE savage".
    You still have yet to get that straight.
    Commy wrote:
    Who is to say they are not?

    Well, Tybrid was saying they aren't.
    And Tybrid would be in the company of many good philosphers in recent history who have argued against the romanticized notion of a "noble savage".
    Commy wrote:
    agreed, there is no such thing as a noble savage-so why use the phrase in reference to these people?

    Uh. "Agreed"?
    Now you've just reversed 180 and agreed with the guy you called a racist two posts.

    "Why use the phrase"?
    Well, it seemed to change your mind.
    Lol.

    I still don't think you really get it.
    Is there ANY one else out there that can jump in and deflect some of this heat, and help get a rational argument out to help explain this?

    This is just silly.

    All Tybrid did was respond to someone who was idealizing the life of "native" or "indigenous" tribal peoples. His response merely asserted that there is no such thing as a "noble savage".

    In his argument, he reference an (apparently not so) well known literary term.

    Why he got called a racist, and a savage hick for his remarkably literate comment is beyond me.

    ???
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
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