What's the TRUTH on Obama??

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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I'll let them know...or maybe history will let them know...hehe

    Nothing personal...

    Nothing intelligent about being a fanatic.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Nothing intelligent about being a fanatic.

    names...names...they pale somewhat in the presence of facts and logic.

    But I digress... personality issue debates are far more informative usually.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    names...names...they pale somewhat in the presence of facts and logic.

    But I digress... personality issue debates are far more informative usually.

    Question why do yu hate Isreal so much?
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Question why do yu hate Isreal so much?

    His rabbi botched the briss.
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Question why do yu hate Isreal so much?

    Isn't it obvious? The guy is a Ron Paul fanatic. They're all Ku Kluxers and white supremacists. ;) .
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    jeffbr wrote:
    His rabbi botched the briss.

    Nice.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Question why do yu hate Isreal so much?


    I don't hate Israel. I hate zionist neo-conservative concepts toward humanity.

    As should everybody. Jews hate Zionism. True patriots hate neo-conservatives.

    I dislike people that support these two cluster fuck principles on humanity.

    As should everybody.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Listen to the lame personal attacks

    no brains no argument just grade school..

    Pass the cement on the PJ forum tonight.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    So can anyone intelligently answer my original question on why exactly Obama would taking the stance of providing unanimous support to Israel, and what that means?

    I see some avid supporters here, I'm sure this has come up before in their research. It's a pretty big issue looking forward into the next step towards terrorism.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Listen to the lame personal attacks

    no brains no argument just grade school..

    Pass the cement on the PJ forum tonight.

    Lighten up, Francis. If in anyway you were referring partially to my KKK remark, it was light hearted teasing. Hence the blue, winkey, smiley faced guy.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    cornnifer wrote:
    Lighten up, Francis. If in anyway you were referring partially to my KKK remark, it was light hearted teasing. Hence the blue, winkey, smiley faced guy.


    Actually yours wasn't so bad. I can take the hits. It was more focused towards the ever lingering residues of of dodge-lew

    hehe..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    edit: Have you auditioned for American Idol yet?

    What the fuck are you talking about?
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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    hehe yeah ok...sure. pot kettlel yada...yada..

    If someone claims I'm full of shit and rambling them I would like to be educated by them accordingly.

    Could you answer me on that then if you seem to think so as well.

    step up already.

    here it is again:

    So explain to me why he supports Israel and for what reasons.

    And also why fully supporting Israel is so radically different (or at all) from supporting neo-conservatism in your opinion.

    i think he supports Isreal for the sole reason why everyone does. he HATES the muslims and wants to control the world. am i am right? Please tell me i am right? PLEASE PLEASE.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Thecure wrote:
    i think he supports Isreal for the sole reason why everyone does. he HATES the muslims and wants to control the world. am i am right? Please tell me i am right? PLEASE PLEASE.

    He doesn't hate the muslims, dude. He just wants to turn that whole part of the world into glass. Think about it. It'd be really fucking pretty.
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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    ledvedderman wrote:
    He doesn't hate the muslims, dude. He just wants to turn that whole part of the world into glass. Think about it. It'd be really fucking pretty.

    my post was a joke. it seems that roland just wants someone to agree with him.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Thecure wrote:
    my post was a joke

    As was mine.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    So can anyone intelligently answer my original question on why exactly Obama would taking the stance of providing unanimous support to Israel, and what that means?

    I see some avid supporters here, I'm sure this has come up before in their research. It's a pretty big issue looking forward into the next step towards terrorism.

    from Obama -
    My view is that the United States' special relationship with Israel obligates us to be helpful to them in the search for credible partners with whom they can make peace, while also supporting Israel in defending itself against enemies sworn to its destruction,

    and
    That will always be my starting point." Mr. Obama spoke of the threat of Iran. "President Ahmadinejad has denied the Holocaust. He held a conference in his country, claiming it was a myth. But we know the Holocaust was as real as the 6 million who died in mass graves at Buchenwald, or the cattle cars to Dachau or whose ashes clouded the sky at Auschwitz. We have seen the pictures. We have walked the halls of the Holocaust museum in Washington and Yad Vashem. We have touched the tattoos on loved-ones arms. After 60 years, it is time to deny the deniers," he said.

    Mr. Obama went further, stating: "In the 21st century, it is unacceptable that a member state of the United Nations would openly call for the elimination of another member state. But that is exactly what he has done. Neither Israel nor the United States has the luxury of dismissing these outrages as mere rhetoric
    Mr. Obama added: "We must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs. This would help Israel maintain its military edge and deter and repel attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza."

    He took Israel's side against those who would fault it for its actions in Lebanon in the Summer of 2006. "When Israel is attacked, we must stand up for Israel's legitimate right to defend itself,"
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Thecure wrote:
    my post was a joke. it seems that roland just wants someone to agree with him.


    Agree with me? I would like to be proven wrong. and forObama to be a face value guy that doesn't side with zionistic neo-conservative ideologies on what terrorism really is....but that's not going to be happening anytime soon.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Agree with me? I would like to be proven wrong. and forObama to be a face value guy that doesn't side with zionistic neo-conservative ideologies on what terrorism really is....but that's not going to be happening anytime soon.

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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    I "agree" with Roland. The shit thats been said by him is really going down. Come on Holy Roman Empire.

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