What's the TRUTH on Obama??

RolandTD20Kdrummer

An open letter to Barak.

http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m40582&hd=&size=1&l=e

Obama saying he supports Israel militarily is like saying he supports the neo-con agenda militarily.

Exact same diff. They are one and the same in ideology and beliefs.

Nevermind

jlew24asu wrote:

the problem is that he follows radical websites with mushroom cloud doomsday scenarios as fact. when in fact there is no proof. alex jones mentality type of stuff. quite scary. someone should tell him that any 16 year old with html skills can make a website.

3 examples he holds as fact.

1. planes didnt hit the WTC. it was a media illusion.
2. the US government sprays a toxin mist (chemtrails) over its citizens to keep us in line.
3. the US has set a date to nuke Iran.

Slander. Alex Jones get his info from Mainstream news and experts on the topics. And the government was behind 9/11.

MasterFramer

jlew24asu wrote:

the problem is that he follows radical websites with mushroom cloud doomsday scenarios as fact. when in fact there is no proof. alex jones mentality type of stuff. quite scary. someone should tell him that any 16 year old with html skills can make a website.

3 examples he holds as fact.

1. planes didnt hit the WTC. it was a media illusion.
2. the US government sprays a toxin mist (chemtrails) over its citizens to keep us in line.
3. the US has set a date to nuke Iran.

All I know is what we have been told about 9/11 is not the truth.

Contrails are too fringe for me and Obama is not going to attack Iran.

jlew24asu

Nevermind wrote:

Slander. Alex Jones get his info from Mainstream news and experts on the topics. And the government was behind 9/11.

everything out of jones's mouth is slander. fuck that guy. how bout that? and dont get me started on the government was behind 9/11 bullshit.

MasterFramer

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

All knowing?...just follow the news. Turn the TV off first though. Might take a few months to get the bigger picture going.

If you can't see agendas by know... I don't know what to tell you.. keep reading.

Again with the posturing... "I know more than you because I don't watch TV, I read the internets!" Great dude.

Nevermind

Actually you should get started up on it. Should we start with the hijackers that are alive today that supposedly crashed a plane into the WTC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8

jlew24asu

Nevermind wrote:

Actually you should get started up on it. Should we start with the hijackers that are alive today that supposedly crashed a plane into the WTC?

no they are not alive. there are more then one Mohammad in the middle east, just fyi. you seem new here, we have beat this to death for months. hell even years now. all of your bullshit has been disproven. dont waste your time.

Nevermind

jlew24asu wrote:

no they are not alive. there are more then one Mohammad in the middle east, just fyi. you seem new here, we have beat this to death for months. hell even years now. all of your bullshit has been disproven. dont waste your time.

Seem new here? I dont fucking think so. Check registration date.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/150_911_smoking_guns_found_in_media.htm
Theres some mainstream news on 9/11 for you.

jlew24asu

Nevermind wrote:

Seem new here? I dont fucking think so. Check registration date.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/150_911_smoking_guns_found_in_media.htm
Theres some mainstream news on 9/11 for you.

you seem new on the train. you haven't participated in the hundreds of 9/11 pages.

nice link. all you have done is prove my point. go bother someone else.

Nevermind

The ignorant people are the reason I dont post on the Train. You must watch a lot of Television.

jlew24asu

Nevermind wrote:

The ignorant people are the reason I dont post on the Train. You must watch a lot of Television.

the less people like you around here the better. go back where you came from

Wobbie

Hey - I started this thread to get clarification on a couple of "facts/myths." I got my answer. I didn't mean to "start" anything . "Can't we all just get along?"

Nevermind

You should really watch these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Re: Agenda's and knowing what's going on.....

read the Shock doctrine by Naomi Klein sometime

http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine

http://www.naomiklein.org/main

"The recipe for endless worldwide war is one that the Bush administration offered as a business prospectus to the nascent disaster capitalism after September 11. It is not a war that can be one by any country but winning is not the point. The point is to create “security” inside fortress states bolstered by endless low-level conflict outside their walls. In a way, it is the same goal that the private security companies have in Iraq: secure the perimeter, protect the principal…

In Israel, however, that process is the most advanced: an entire country has turned itself into a fortified gated community, surrounded by locked-out people living in permanently excluded red zones. This is what society looks like when has lost its economic incentive for peace and is heavily invested in fighting and profiting from an endless and unwinnable War on Terror. One part looks like Israel; the other part looks like Gaza.
P441-Shock Doctrine"

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

the less people like you around here the better. go back where you came from

Nasty little creature...

jeffbr

The wack-a-moles can even turn a thread about Obama into a 9/11 tin foil hat thread. Well done, loonies!

Nevermind

jlew actually was the one to bring up 9/11 :(

callen

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Basically his supporters will tell you he is going to solve everything, create "change", and perhaps cure cancer on the side in his spare time.

the fact of the matter is that he's obeys and fully supports the whims of Isreal, and knows his place accordingly. Israel wants to bomb the crap out of Iran more than anything else in the world right now (and for some time to come until they finally do)

Do the math.

People who say Ron Paul has a good message are demonized and call lunatics because a republican can;t actually be a good person for some reason even if they are actually a good person.

Go figure...bombing Iran and fully supporting the people who want to, seems pretty sane no doubt.

It's a lot bigger the Barack and his grand ideas of peace, and he's seriously kidding himself (and a lot of other people) thinking he can play in their game and not pay their price at the end of the night when the bill arrives.

Obomba will be Obombing (Iran) when the time comes a calling (directly or indirectly through $$$). The money will be there to support it, because Obama supports Israel 100%. He's in bed, and sooner or later he's gonna told to roll over and be on the bottom.

Hillary would be worse though. Gravel would be a wasted vote. sadly... Kucinich is gone. that leaves one guy that will choose a peaceful route. The only republican talking peace with a significant dose of humanitarian common sense that will not lead into perpetual war for the next 100 years....Ron Paul.

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bs...sorry....as much as I agree with some of your posts..your ramblimgs on Obama are false and unfounded.....

RolandTD20Kdrummer

callen wrote:

bs...sorry....as much as I agree with some of your posts..your ramblimgs on Obama are false and unfounded.....

You obviously think you know more about it than me. So explain to me why he supports Israel and for what reasons.

And also why fully supporting Israel is so radically different (or at all) from supporting neo-conservatism in your opinion.

I like to hear that addressed by someone who thinks they know more about it than me.

I'm always out to learn more.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jeffbr wrote:

The wack-a-moles can even turn a thread about Obama into a 9/11 tin foil hat thread. Well done, loonies!

quit your pathetic whining...