What's the TRUTH on Obama??

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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    How are they the same?

    haha...did you actually just ask that?

    I think you guys need to start seeing war more as a business venture which is exactly what is.

    There you go again assuming you know more than us.
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    All I can say to that is it seems you're going to let history inform you of what happened after the fact.

    Whatever that fucking means. Heh
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    How are they the same?

    haha...did you actually just ask that?

    I think you guys need to start seeing war more as a business venture which is exactly what is.

    yea I did. good dodge.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yea I did. good dodge.


    It's such a ridiculously baited question it doesn't even merit keystrokes...

    If you have to even ask it's not worth explaining
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Whatever that fucking means. Heh


    That about what I expected you'd say in response Nothing personal.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It's such a ridiculously baited question it doesn't even merit keystrokes...

    but somehow what you do is different? you cant smell the shit your shoveling? you make it so easy to expose your vomit.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    How is Israels agenda (that Barak supports 110%) different from the neo-con agenda?

    OK, I'll bite:

    The neo-con agenda is about installing democracies in troubled areas of the world, by force if necessary, in hopes that democracy will spread, in turn bringing peace to those regions.

    Israel's agenda is, basically, to try not to get wiped off the face of the Earth.

    Personally, my questions about Obama stem from whether or not he will be aggressive enough in national security issues. not whether he'll be too aggressive.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    but somehow what you do is different? you cant smell the shit your shoveling? you make it so easy to expose your vomit.


    You can;t see the connection between zionism and neo-conservatism

    holy fuckk. brutal dude...f-in brutal

    cement upstairs..block solid..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    slightofjeff wrote:
    OK, I'll bite:

    The neo-con agenda is about installing democracies in troubled areas of the world, by force if necessary, in hopes that democracy will spread, in turn bringing peace to those regions.

    Hate to say it, but that's a fallacy. That angle has been seen through a long time ago. It's not about democracy at all.

    It was just a tactic to get public support.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • DarkStar
    DarkStar Posts: 734
    imalive wrote:
    Thanks for the input. I found something for my lunatic co-workers who like to leave stuff lying around...

    http://members.cox.net/ddgrh8r/barackbush.jpg

    Ron Paul? I hate to admit it but I can't even consider him because he can't win. The Republicans will never nominate him and (as things now stand) an Independent can't win either. All an Independent can do (ala Nader) is siphon enough resonable people's votes away so that we're left with Bush. I don't like it but I can't see how we are ever going to keep the people with all the money from deciding who has all the power. It's shaping up to be another awful election....
    here's another for your co-workers:

    http://thedailybackground.com/media/images/blog//ZZ7A57B3DE.jpg

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    And no one sings me lullabyes
    And no one makes me close my eyes
    So I throw the windows wide
    And call to you across the sky....
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Hate to say it, but that's a fallacy. That angle has been seen through a long time ago. It's not about democracy at all.

    It was just a tactic to get public support.

    And you missed the entire point of my post. Congratulations.

    The point: Israel's agenda is different, in that they are just trying to not get killed. I don't mind Obama supporting Israel in that particular area.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    You can;t see the connection between zionism and neo-conservatism

    holy fuckk. brutal dude...f-in brutal

    cement upstairs..block solid..

    you know whats brutal is your ability to have a conversation. you arent interested in debate. how can you be? you already know all the answers.

    america is a great country because people like you arent one. you are a brainwashed extremist.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you know whats brutal is your ability to have a conversation. you arent interested in debate. how can you be? you already know all the answers.

    america is a great country because people like you arent one. you are a brainwashed extremist.


    So you don't the know the connection. Ok...well..that explains it. Lack of comprehension on the issue *is* the issue.

    All you had to say was you don't know. Why pretend to.. then be insulting on top of it all?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    So you don't the know the connection. Ok...well..that explains it. Lack of comprehension on the issue *is* the issue.

    All you had to say was you don't know. Why pretend to.. then be insulting on top of it all?

    but I want the hear the answers from the smartest guy on the internet. teach us. teach us all.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    slightofjeff wrote:
    And you missed the entire point of my post. Congratulations.

    The point: Israel's agenda is different, in that they are just trying to not get killed. I don't mind Obama supporting Israel in that particular area.


    The answer is...They are connected integrally in the fight to combat Islamic terrorism. In every regard actually, to the point that they share a lot of money to fight the very same terrorist causes as though they are one mind.

    They are the exact same mind actually in some cases when it comes to fighting terrorism. Mostly because the US has a lot of dual Israeli-American citizens throughout the current admin, that affect a lot of US foreign policy in regards to Israel. (edit: and the entire middle east....and elsewhere)

    Also......AIPAC.... American Israel Public Affairs Committee
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    *cough*
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    The answer is...They are connected integrally in the fight to combat Islamic terrorism. In every regard actually, to the point that they share a lot of money to fight the very same terrorist causes as though they are one mind.

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    for the least they could possibly do
  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    That about what I expected you'd say in response Nothing personal.

    Fuck you and everyone else who says Nothing Personal. Its always personal here...
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    slightofjeff wrote:
    You win a harmonica!


    fucking eh!

    sweet!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Fuck you and everyone else who says Nothing Personal. Its always personal here...


    I'll let them know...or maybe history will let them know...hehe

    Nothing personal...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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