Hamas...just a bunch of loveable knuckleheads
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Then they wonder why people will not take the Hamas government seriously.
yeah, but my problem is that they are part of a problem that is not OUR problem.
but Islamic extremism is our problem. sometimes in this crazy world we live, one has to take a side. I'm confident we choose the right side in this.
there are almost more jews in america then in Israel. it should be no surprise that we do not turn our back on them.
there are more muslims in america than there are in palestine. what's your point? it's not our problem. if we started using some common sense and left them the fuck alone, they'd focus on killing each other instead of us. as evidenced by the article in question. they're pissed at the world. they're pissed that they live in a fucking desert. they're pissed that their chicks can't show any skin. they're just pissed. let them take it out on each other instead of americans.
The situation is not equal, and the equation is stacked highly in one direction. Any guesses which direction?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Oh so you've been?
wtf?
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anyway, america has more muslims than jews.
Yes I have.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Yes it is a problem that we should address but go about it the wrong way. We side with israel without even questioning any of their actions, as if the Israeli government can do no wrong. By doing so we in fact become part of the problem ourselves. We wield a tremendous amount of influence over Israel and we squander it. During the Israeli-Lebanon War this summer we could have easily pulled back on the reigns. Saved the lebonese people a ton of hardship which eventually led to the weakening of their government and increased support for Hezbollah. We didn't and became part of the problem.
I'm not saying that israel doesn't have the right to defend itself from terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah but at times their retalitory tactics venture into the realm of brutal and inhumain. Yet the US offers no criticism or even attempts to cut of funding for Israel based on their actions.
If our government is truely intent on resolving the issues between the Palestinians and Israel then we need to take an unbaised stance.
we've held them back a bunch of times, when they should have been defending themselves. i'm glad they didn't hold them back last summer.
after awhile you gotta kill somebody.
as always, it's the people that pay for their fucked up leaders.
why are you WTF???
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html
as of 2006
Jewish population.
1 Israel 5,313,800
2 United States 5,275,000
who contributes more to america society? muslims or jews? who embraces freedom and democracy?
Well the government of Lebanon had nothing to due with the abduction of the two Israeli soldiers, yet they suffered from the war. The Lebonese government was a pro-US anti-Syrian led government. After the war that government lost much of it's support from the people because they could not defend the country from the Israeli attack. So instead of weakening Hezbollah all Israel did was weaken a government that was friendly towards them and strengthen Hezbollah.
The US may have pulled back on the reigns here and there but for the most part we stand iddly by. Like I stated Israel does have the right to defend itself and it's people from terrorist attacks, but their tactics are oftern brutal and absolute overkill. It only serves to continue the cycle of violence.
How can you say that one group contributes more to American society or that one group embraces freedom and democracy more than the other. One their is no statistic to back up your claim. Not every Muslim, specially the ones living here, is a crazed radical hellbent on converting the world to Islam living under sharia laws. Yes there are extremely conservative Muslims in the states who still follow a strick code based on the Qu'ran but look at Hasidic Jews. They live their lives by a strick code based on the Torah. Would you consider them less Americanized simply because they adhere to a strict religious code?
no, im basing my opinion on common knowledge and common sense more then hard statistics.
the strictest of religious code of jews does not result in being stoned to death.
Actually it does, but most Jews do not live under a theocracy. So do you blame the religion, of Islam that is, or simply the government officials who use that religion to supress it's people.
are there jews today, anywhere in the world, who penalize a person to death for not following their form of judism ?
I'm interested in you answer but you haven't supplied one.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
No, but as I stated the majority of Jews do not live under a oppressive theocratic government. The Torah does state that people should be stoned to death for certain crimes and indiscretions, but people have evolved and society has become more civilized since those times. So Judaism and Islam are no different in text. The difference is that many Islamic countries are ruled by theocratic oppressive regimes who use religion as a means to control the masses, ie Saudi Arabia. So the question is do you blame the religion itself or do you blame the people who prevert the religion in order to control vast quantities of people.
try this again. what?
but thats not true for conservative Islam. (and we are taking millions of muslims)
of course I blame the people.
Yeah the Zionists (not Jews...big difference) in Israel. If the Palestinians gave up their rights to distinction and bent over for them, they would get shot and bombed a whole lot less.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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True but you have to also look at how this people have been indoctinated since they where in the womb. From a young impressionable age they are taught at government funded religious schools that the only law that counts is Qu'ran. That what is written in those pages is how they should live their lives down to the last period. It's brainwashing at it's simplist form. For the rest of their lives they live under a government that shoves this sharia bullshit down their throat, it is all they know.
Judaism is no different than Islam, if you read the text you would see that. The only difference is that Jews, for the most part and only in recent times, have had the fortune of living in civilized societies where religious doctrine and oppressive regimes do not govern their lives. Of course Nazi Germany is an exception to this.
Many millions of muslims have not had this opportunity so they are born and raised thinking that sharia law is acceptable. So the blame lays squarely on the practitioners of the religion, specifically those who prevert the Qu'ran for their own agenda, and not the religion itself.
i normally respectfully disagree with you, but this is fucking ridiculous. where are the stats on american muslims vs. muslims in palestine? the point was, numbers have nothing to do with it. it's all about judgment calls... that muslims hate freedom, blah blah blah. you're smarter than buying into that rhetoric.
seldom right and wrong again. zionists do not kill muslims for not being jewish. and maybe you didnt notice, you had to use if. you are completely basing you statement on assumption and opinion. not facts.
again, as i said, what the fuck has that got to do with us?
"if we started using some common sense and left them the fuck alone, they'd focus on killing each other instead of us. as evidenced by the article in question. they're pissed at the world. they're pissed that they live in a fucking desert. they're pissed that their chicks can't show any skin. they're just pissed. let them take it out on each other instead of americans."
if that's the way they wanna live, who cares? there are better, worse, and equal societies in the world. let them have theirs. it's none of our goddamn business.
you make my point on a bunch of different things...
they hate from the womb, nothing we do can change that
there are about 10 million muslims in the US. not sure how many of those are "palestinian" or not.
but doesnt matter. look at the influence american jews have in america compared to muslims. jews are HUGE venture capitalists and some of the most successful people ever to live in this country. steven speilburg comes to mind but you know what I'm getting at.
what muslims have done the same? Louis Farrakhan ?
conservative Islam does hate freedom. thats not neo con rethoric. its fact.
Well, you actually have to think about it. I didn't expect you to grasp what I said at first. In reality they kill them for living.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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