Any Castro defenders here?
Trau
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Just curious.
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Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
I'm freezing
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what i have read is that it has one of the best health services in the world but a lot of its people still live in poverty.
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Count me in.
I went to cuba 2years back, had a great time. music everywhere, cheap food, beer........while there is poverty to some degree its not on a level with places such as dominican republic.
there seems to be an abundance of police, like had some old drunk ask for a cigarette on the beach one evening...almost in seconds there were two uniforms leading him away(which aint a bad thing).
actually saw an old soviet tank by the side of a road, that really is a standard image I had before going.
At least he seems to care for his people even if he wants to maintain total control.
But not really a supporter, no.
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It wasn't even that they couldn't control him. You are correct in stating that the Eisenhower administration was weary of Batista and welcomed Castro's ousting of him. What starting souring the relationship was when corporations, mainly United Fruit,starting lobbying the government to turn it's back on Castro. Couple this with a strong and vocal Cuban, and very well organized, opposition here in the states and our government quickly folded. Castro until this point had no interest in entering into any type of relationship with the Soviets. He didn't trust them and neither did Camilo Cienfuegos who was Castro's closest commendant, besides his brother Raul. It wasn't until after the US turned hostile towards the Castro regime and started undertaking covert actions against him and his regime did Castro finally cave into to Che's calls to side with the Soviets. At this point he pretty much had no other choice but to side with them considreing that the worlds only other superpower was doing almost everything it couild to depose or kill him.
I'm no fan of Castro because of what his government has done to the Cuban people and my family as well. There are relatives of mine who I have never met because they died for doing nothing more than voicing there displeasure. I do how ever blame to a limited extent this country as well. He our government not been owned by corporate America and actually had the ability to see past it's own self-serving interests, the relationship between this country and Cuba may have remained on peaceful terms and the atrocities that where carried out by boths governments may have never occurred.
why you would support a man who took freedom away from people for over 50 years. killed and tortured any who opposed him? classy.
Cubans have suffered more over the last 50 years as a result of the illegal U.S blockade than as a result of anything else.
And I'm not an expert, but when I see images of happy, smiling Cubans dancing in the streets, drinking rum and soaking up life, I get the unusual feeling that they are more 'free' than most Americans, or British, for that matter.
I think we need to qualify what we mean by 'free' when referring to Cuba and Cubans.
They are not as free as those pictures portray them to be. My family is from Cuba. I still have plenty of family there. They are certainly not as free as we are. You do make a good point though. The embargo has contributed to the misery that the Cubans have to endure and it's high fucking time this government get's head out of it's ass and puts an end to the embargo.
How dya know what pics, or footage I've seen? Have you been spying on me?
Frankly, anyone who can make music like the Cubans make it seems pretty cool to me.
And combine that with Rum, sun, and bronzed bodies, and that's what I call livin'.
Because it's not the same. American business' have been affected by the embrgo but no where near as severe as the Cuban population.
there is a reason why that embargo was put in place. interesting how you want to blame america instead of cuban. america doesnt owe cuban anything, their leader does.
Yes, I understand that. But based on the logic of embargo-as-primary-cause-of-misery, how come the embargo's effects on America are not equal to its effects on Cuba? I mean, I can't buy Cuban products just like they can't by mine. Yet how come things are better for me?
mammasan,
let me just say that you are about as reasonable and objective as any person i have ever encountered. I only wish that most cuban exiles shared your views on this particular matter. I believe that they are the ones responsible for the confusion and misconceptions that the american public have towards Cuba.
I think you just look for reasons to hate.
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and who do I hate?
Please enlighten us as to why the illegal embargo was put in place.
There ya go, still looking...
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Which is it? Sentence 1 or sentence 2? Are they suffering, or are they happily dancing in the streets?
Because the U.S is imposing a blockade on Cuba, meaning it has had to be totally self-sufficient for 50 years. The U.S has blocked any country from importing goods into Cuba. A pretty fucked-up situation really.
Meaning they are poor materially, but wealthy in other ways.
you make no fucking sense, move on
Japan is only 3 times the size of Cuba and 1/16 the size of America, yet they operate at a trade surplus with America. Russia is 4 times the size of America, yet their economy pales in comparison to ours. Land mass, in the context of production and modernization, isn't worth much.