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What do a billion muslims actually think about Bin Laden?

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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    miller8966 wrote:
    So numerous to list..thats like asking me to pick which new york met is my favorite.

    But here's one.

    Pearl Jam is a band from the state of ____(A)____ which is located in ____(B)____

    A. Seattle

    B. AMERICA!

    WoW! Pearl Jam has a big job representing all that is good about the U.S. of A.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    So numerous to list..thats like asking me to pick which new york met is my favorite.

    But here's one.

    Pearl Jam is a band from the state of ____(A)____ which is located in ____(B)____

    A. Seattle

    B. AMERICA!
    I didn't say you have to pick just one. Sheesh, you think if you asked me or Kabong or abook to list some of the shitty things we've done, we'd feel like we had to limit ourselves to one thing? ;)

    Come on, go hog wild, make us a great big list!

    P.S. Pearl Jam happens to be from America, they are not something that America "did."
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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    El_Kabong wrote:
    why is the world court shit? b/c they want to hold us accountable for illegal attacks against a soverign nation??


    I'm not going to waste my time by responding to all of the post. You need to limit your posts to smaller amounts of material because you're dropping a heap on me so I don't bother to respond to any of it. I don't have the time to respond to it all and I would encourage you to not heap massive amounts of text when arguing a point - lawyers do that when they want to delay proceedings and I see you've learned that technique well.

    I will respond to the beginning.

    There is no such thing as an illegal attack perpetrated by a sovereign nation. Sovereign nations may attack other nations if it is in their best interest. This is not illegal - it is a right of defensive posture.

    The world court attempts to enforce "laws" on us. We are sovereign; therefore, we are held to no other rules than what we agree to in treaties. If we leave the world court, we're no longer held to its rules. All foreign bodies are voluntary. The United States government works for the interest of the American people, not for the world community.

    Communism being spread in the western hemisphere is an aggressive move against the United States. Our democracy is threatened by communism. Therefore, we sought to destroy it during the cold war. Nicaragua was a part of that.

    For those of you who oppose the United State's actions in Nicaragua, I wonder why you do. Would you have preferred that Nicaragua become communist? Do you like communism? Me, I'd rather be dead the Red. If you like communism, I wonder why. I've been over this in many posts and have proven that it cannot but fail.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
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    miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Ahnimus wrote:
    WoW! Pearl Jam has a big job representing all that is good about the U.S. of A.

    I didnt say all...theres so many.

    Think about this:

    We are on a pearl jam forum: american band

    To get on the forum we use a windows operating system: bill gates ( american)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_gates

    Before operating the forum we sign on to the internet : invented by americans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet

    We use electricity so you can type your liberal garbage : benjamin franklin

    And we use the light bulb so we can see what we type: edison

    Not to mention the fact that the car that gets you to work was invented by an american
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
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    miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    I didn't say you have to pick just one. Sheesh, you think if you asked me or Kabong or abook to list some of the shitty things we've done, we'd feel like we had to limit ourselves to one thing? ;)

    Come on, go hog wild, make us a great big list!

    P.S. Pearl Jam happens to be from America, they are not something that America "did."

    lol.

    Yes but america in general spurs creative thought..hence its attributed to america.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
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    hippiemom wrote:
    P.S. Pearl Jam happens to be from America, they are not something that America "did."


    hahahahahahaha

    How many great bands has Red China produced??

    Just because the american government didn't introduce Eddie to Stone and Jeff doesn't mean that Pearl Jam wasn't a by-God product of the freedom and cultural milieu that is patently American.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
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    hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    I didnt say all...theres so many.

    Think about this:

    We are on a pearl jam forum: american band

    To get on the forum we use a windows operating system: bill gates ( american)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_gates

    Before operating the forum we sign on to the internet : invented by americans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet

    We use electricity so you can type your liberal garbage : benjamin franklin

    And we use the light bulb so we can see what we type: edison

    Not to mention the fact that the car that gets you to work was invented by an american
    Karl Benz was an American? Wow, I learn something every day!

    Miller, all of these examples are people who happened to be born here. America didn't invent the light bulb, Edison did. I want the great things that we as a nation have done.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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    hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    lol.

    Yes but america in general spurs creative thought..hence its attributed to america.
    So if my favorite band is Led Zeppelin, does that make the UK the greatest country in the world? That's just silly.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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    hippiemom wrote:
    I want the great things that we as a nation have done.

    Won WWII.

    Ended Communism.

    Put a man on the moon.

    Give billions in aid to foreign countries.

    Have the highest Purchasing Power Parity in the world.

    The most powerful military in the world.

    Made english the language of finance.

    Edit: those are off the top of my head
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
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    miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    Karl Benz was an American? Wow, I learn something every day!

    Miller, all of these examples are people who happened to be born here. America didn't invent the light bulb, Edison did. I want the great things that we as a nation have done.

    No but henry ford was...and i learn something new here too; like that muslims discovered america. (Mr.Brian)

    LOL at happened to be born in america...America is what spurs such great activity. Its the culture of america that does it; that gives faith to the free world that they too can one day become as great as us.

    Puff your chest out and be proud to be an american; hey at least we arent the french.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
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    El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    I'm not going to waste my time by responding to all of the post. You need to limit your posts to smaller amounts of material because you're dropping a heap on me so I don't bother to respond to any of it. I don't have the time to respond to it all and I would encourage you to not heap massive amounts of text when arguing a point - lawyers do that when they want to delay proceedings and I see you've learned that technique well.

    I will respond to the beginning.

    There is no such thing as an illegal attack perpetrated by a sovereign nation. Sovereign nations may attack other nations if it is in their best interest. This is not illegal - it is a right of defensive posture.

    The world court attempts to enforce "laws" on us. We are sovereign; therefore, we are held to no other rules than what we agree to in treaties. If we leave the world court, we're no longer held to its rules. All foreign bodies are voluntary. The United States government works for the interest of the American people, not for the world community.

    Communism being spread in the western hemisphere is an aggressive move against the United States. Our democracy is threatened by communism. Therefore, we sought to destroy it during the cold war. Nicaragua was a part of that.

    For those of you who oppose the United State's actions in Nicaragua, I wonder why you do. Would you have preferred that Nicaragua become communist? Do you like communism? Me, I'd rather be dead the Red. If you like communism, I wonder why. I've been over this in many posts and have proven that it cannot but fail.


    oh, poor baby, you never moved up from the intermediate level chapter books, did you? :( don't feel too down about it.

    so nicaragua was communist...aren't you the one who said every country should be able to do what it wants? well, nicaragua chose to elect a marxist leader. kinda contradicting yourself, there.

    i could care less what nicaragua called itself. plz explain how they were a threat to us, at least a threat to warrant mining their harbors and bombing them, which you said we didn't do...? how were we pushed to the 'defensive' b/c they held democratic elections and we didn't like who they picked?

    and you kinda ignored the iranian air bus thing, too.

    you also ignored my question as to what have we taken accountability for?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
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    hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Won WWII.

    Ended Communism.

    Put a man on the moon.

    Give billions in aid to foreign countries.

    Have the highest Purchasing Power Parity in the world.

    The most powerful military in the world.

    Made english the language of finance.
    Now you've gone and ruined it. I really wanted to see miller for once come up with something substantive.

    Party pooper :p

    Edit: I'd dispute the value of some of these things, and I'd still like to see miller come up with one that's not on this list.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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    miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    So if my favorite band is Led Zeppelin, does that make the UK the greatest country in the world? That's just silly.

    Where did led zep get its influences from....american blues?

    And your not on a led zep forum posting everyday are you? Your on a forum from a band based in AMERICA!
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
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    hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    Where did led zep get its influences from....american blues?

    And your not on a led zep forum posting everyday are you? Your on a forum from a band based in AMERICA!
    And where did those American blues men come from? Africa, that's where! See, we could play this game all day.

    Still waiting for one thing that we as a nation have done (and no fair peeking at CorporateWhore's paper for the answers).
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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    miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    Now you've gone and ruined it. I really wanted to see miller for once come up with something substantive.

    Party pooper :p

    Edit: I'd dispute the value of some of these things, and I'd still like to see miller come up with one that's not on this list.

    O god come on i can name alot.

    WW2

    Ended communism

    Teddy Roosevelt ( pretty much helped europeans how to act macho)

    Defeated the worlds greatest empire ( england)

    Helped Israel become a nation ( HA!)

    Helped restructure europe after ww2.

    Gives billions in aid to countries every year ( though i dont agree with giving aid)

    honestly if america collapsed the world would collapse.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
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    miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    And where did those American blues men come from? Africa, that's where! See, we could play this game all day.

    Still waiting for one thing that we as a nation have done (and no fair peeking at CorporateWhore's paper for the answers).

    lol yes but that music was spawned from america..sure their african butg thats all.

    We've pretty much done everything possible...name a country that can touch us?
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
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    El_Kabong wrote:
    oh, poor baby, you never moved up from the intermediate level chapter books, did you? :( don't feel too down about it.

    Haha, no need to be smart about it. We're not all bestowed with the great knowledge you have, whoever the hell you are...
    El_Kabong wrote:
    so nicaragua was communist...aren't you the one who said every country should be able to do what it wants? well, nicaragua chose to elect a marxist leader. kinda contradicting yourself, there.

    Nah, kinda not. Nicaragua completely has the right to elect marxist leaders. We completely have the right to stop them from doing that if it threatens our democracy. Too bad their military wasn't strong enough to stop us :(
    El_Kabong wrote:
    i could care less what nicaragua called itself. plz explain how they were a threat to us, at least a threat to warrant mining their harbors and bombing them, which you said we didn't do...? how were we pushed to the 'defensive' b/c they held democratic elections and we didn't like who they picked?

    and you kinda ignored the iranian air bus thing, too.

    you also ignored my question as to what have we taken accountability for?

    Nicaragua wanted to become communist but we armed the contras to fight them. Just because the Nicaraguans elected marxists doesn't matter to U.S. interests: we hate communism and it needed to stay the fuck away from us. We tried to stop communism from entering the western hemisphere because policymakers feared that strong communist sentiment could thereby enter the U.S. by proximity. If that happened, our democracy would be threatened. This was defensive. Obviously, you don't feel that communism was much of a threat - you probably would've preferred it to our current government, but that's too bad. Too many bad old capitalists like me, huh? :)

    The Iranians tried to sink one of our warships. As far as I'm concerned, that's an act of war. We tried to send radio messages to the airplane but it didn't respond. Maybe Iran will think twice about fucking with our navy again.

    We've taken accountability for the rest of the world's welfare.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
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    El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Nah, kinda not. Nicaragua completely has the right to elect marxist leaders. We completely have the right to stop them from doing that if it threatens our democracy. Too bad their military wasn't strong enough to stop us :(

    again, how did it threaten our democracy? if you can't answer plz stop saying it
    Nicaragua wanted to become communist but we armed the contras to fight them. Just because the Nicaraguans elected marxists doesn't matter to U.S. interests: we hate communism and it needed to stay the fuck away from us. We tried to stop communism from entering the western hemisphere because policymakers feared that strong communist sentiment could thereby enter the U.S. by proximity. If that happened, our democracy would be threatened. This was defensive. Obviously, you don't feel that communism was much of a threat - you probably would've preferred it to our current government, but that's too bad. Too many bad old capitalists like me, huh? :)

    if it was such a threat to us, why did congress make it illegal to finance them??? why did we have to resort to selling iran thousands of missiles to help finance it and violate several us laws in doing so?
    The Iranians tried to sink one of our warships. As far as I'm concerned, that's an act of war. We tried to send radio messages to the airplane but it didn't respond. Maybe Iran will think twice about fucking with our navy again.

    really? according to the equipment on the ship that actually shot it down it knew it was a passenger jet. and interesting you ignored the part about us attacking their oil platform a year earlier and that same year...
    We've taken accountability for the rest of the world's welfare.


    bwahahahahahahahahaha you are too much, whoever you are ve=pp=cw

    i thought you said we took accountability for mistakes and wrongs....i guess it was too hard to find an example of this?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
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    miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Corporate whore i usually dont like giving up my crown but i think you deserve it.

    Conservative poster of the month award goes to you my friend. The face had a chance but then he talked smack about JC....
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
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    miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    El_Kabong wrote:
    again, how did it threaten our democracy? if you can't answer plz stop saying it



    if it was such a threat to us, why did congress make it illegal to finance them??? why did we have to resort to selling iran thousands of missiles to help finance it and violate several us laws in doing so?



    really? according to the equipment on the ship that actually shot it down it knew it was a passenger jet. and interesting you ignored the part about us attacking their oil platform a year earlier and that same year...




    bwahahahahahahahahaha you are too much, whoever you are ve=pp=cw

    i thought you said we took accountability for mistakes and wrongs....i guess it was too hard to find an example of this?

    kabong you need to relax.

    Getting pwned on a thread from time to time is no big deal....I mean i wouldnt know, i do it to people all the time.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    miller8966 wrote:
    Not to mention the fact that the car that gets you to work was invented by an american

    I walk to work, my legs were invented by nature.

    The Light Bulb ;)

    Across the Atlantic, parallel developments were also taking place. On July 24, 1874 a Canadian patent was filed for the Woodward and Evans Light by a Toronto medical electrician named Henry Woodward and a colleague Mathew Evans. They built their lamps with different sizes and shapes of carbon filaments held between electrodes in glass globes filled with nitrogen. Woodward and Evans attempted to commercialise their bulb, but were unsuccessful. Nonetheless, Thomas Edison considered their approach sufficiently promising that he bought the rights to both their Canadian and US patents before embarking on his own light bulb development program.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_Bulb
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    El_Kabong wrote:
    if it was such a threat to us, why did congress make it illegal to finance them??? why did we have to resort to selling iran thousands of missiles to help finance it and violate several us laws in doing so?

    Lincoln took away journalists' habeus corpus rights. So Reagan bent the rules. Big effing deal. I support Oliver North et al completely. They served their country when congress wouldn't. Some of the best presidents have opposed other branches of government directly and pushed the rules.
    El_Kabong wrote:
    really? according to the equipment on the ship that actually shot it down it knew it was a passenger jet. and interesting you ignored the part about us attacking their oil platform a year earlier and that same year...

    Gee, now yer just makin' stuff up!

    "According to the same reports, the Vincennes tried more than once to contact Flight 655, but there was no acknowledgement."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655#U.S._government_accounts

    Maybe the Iranians told them not to accept radio communications so the U.S. would shoot it down. That airport was a hub for tomcats also. Golly.
    El_Kabong wrote:
    i thought you said we took accountability for mistakes and wrongs....i guess it was too hard to find an example of this?

    There aren't many that come to mind. We're usually right.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
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    miller8966 wrote:
    Corporate whore i usually dont like giving up my crown but i think you deserve it.

    Conservative poster of the month award goes to you my friend. The face had a chance but then he talked smack about JC....

    I appreciate it very much. There are very few of us so it's not exactly the elite of the conservatives, though. Essentially, we're strangers in a strange land. The caliber of liberal that we confront is the best! Even we, the paltriest of the conservatives manage to smash the goliaths of the extreme left!

    Kudos to us.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    miller8966 wrote:
    We use electricity so you can type your liberal garbage : benjamin franklin
    The ancient Greeks and Parthians knew of static electricity from rubbing objects against fur. The ancient Babylonians may have had some knowledge of electroplating, based on the discovery of the Baghdad Battery, which resembles a Galvanic cell.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity#History_of_discovery
    And we use the light bulb so we can see what we type: edison
    Across the Atlantic, parallel developments were also taking place. On July 24, 1874 a Canadian patent was filed for the Woodward and Evans Light by a Toronto medical electrician named Henry Woodward and a colleague Mathew Evans. They built their lamps with different sizes and shapes of carbon filaments held between electrodes in glass globes filled with nitrogen. Woodward and Evans attempted to commercialise their bulb, but were unsuccessful. Nonetheless, Thomas Edison considered their approach sufficiently promising that he bought the rights to both their Canadian and US patents before embarking on his own light bulb development program.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile
    Not to mention the fact that the car that gets you to work was invented by an american
    In 1806 François Isaac de Rivaz, a Swiss inventor, designed the first internal combustion engine (sometimes abbreviated "ICE" today). He subsequently used it to develop the world's first vehicle to run on such an engine that used a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen to generate energy.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile#History

    And just for your enjoyment, various inventions or contributions by Canada.

    Alkaline battery
    Ardox Spiral Nail
    Automatic Lubricating Cup
    Basketball
    Birch-Bark Canoe
    BlackBerry
    Bloody Caesar
    Canadarm
    Caulking gun
    Cobalt-60 “Bomb” Cancer Treatment
    CPR-Mannequin: “Actar 911”
    Crash-Position Indicator-CPI
    Electric Oven
    Electric Wheelchair
    Electron Microscope
    Electronic Music Synthesizer
    Explosives Vapour Detector
    Five Pin Bowling
    Fog horn
    Goalie mask
    Green Garbage Bag
    G-Suit
    Instant Mashed Potatoes
    Instant Replay
    Insulin
    Java programming language
    Key Frame Animation
    Lacrosse
    Light Bulb
    Marine Screw Propeller
    Marquis Wheat
    Pablum
    Pacemaker
    Paint roller
    Plexiglas
    Poutine
    Radio Voice Transmission
    Retractable Beer Carton Handle
    Robertson screw
    Self-Propelled Combine Harvester
    Separable Baggage Check
    Ski-Doo
    Snowblower
    Standard Time
    Telephone
    UV Degradable Plastics
    Walkie-Talkie
    Weevac 6
    Wonderbra
    Zipper
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    O god come on i can name alot.

    WW2

    Ended communism

    Teddy Roosevelt ( pretty much helped europeans how to act macho)

    Defeated the worlds greatest empire ( england)

    Helped Israel become a nation ( HA!)

    Helped restructure europe after ww2.

    Gives billions in aid to countries every year ( though i dont agree with giving aid)

    honestly if america collapsed the world would collapse.

    Finally! It's a lot harder than it ought to be to get anything more than Fox News soundbites out of you.

    WWII - Yes, I'm glad we won that one.

    Ended communism - I think you're confusing the USSR with communism. Or is it your opinion that communism no longer exists?

    Teddy Roosevelt - again, that's a person, not a thing that we did. If you want to discuss particular accomplishments of the Roosevelt administration, that would be fine. I happen to like TR much more than most presidents and would probably agree with a good bit of it, although certainly not all.

    Defeated the world's greatest empire - yes ... I hope you're cool with the fact that we did it with help from ... gasp! ... France!

    Helped Israel become a nation - dubious at best

    Helped restructure Europe (you forgot Japan) - yes, that was unquestionably a good thing

    Give billions in aid every year - I suspect we'd disagree on a lot of this, but that should be a thread in itself so I'll leave it alone.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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    Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    hippiemom wrote:
    Finally! It's a lot harder than it ought to be to get anything more than Fox News soundbites out of you.

    What is a Fox News soundbite? And why are they singled out when you have ALL the other media soundbites being even MORE simplistic? Hell, screw the soundbites, look at the discourse. The idea that posters on a pj message board have somehow been able to break through the shackles of the corporate dominated society and have seen the "truth"...well...hehe....is pretty funny. Trust me, it IS funny. But to think that most people here are actually offering more than soundbites is to live in an arrogant self-absorbed universe.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
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    hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    What is a Fox News soundbite? And why are they singled out when you have ALL the other media soundbites being even MORE simplistic? Hell, screw the soundbites, look at the discourse. The idea that posters on a pj message board have somehow been able to break through the shackles of the corporate dominated society and have seen the "truth"...well...hehe....is pretty funny. Trust me, it IS funny. But to think that most people here are actually offering more than soundbites is to live in an arrogant self-absorbed universe.
    There are plenty of people here who can tell you not only what they think, but they can tell you why they think it. There are others that merely echo what they've heard elsewhere, whether it's Fox or Rush or Franken or Moore ... they rarely if ever provide examples or explanations, they just say "The U.S. is the greatest country ever!" or "Israel is an evil occupying force!" or whatever their cause of the day is, but if they have any idea why they think those things, they don't share it with the rest of us. You know which people are which.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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    chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Ahnimus wrote:

    And just for your enjoyment, various inventions or contributions by Canada.

    you forgot the Mountie Uniform and processed maple syrup on that list.
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
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    Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    hippiemom wrote:
    There are plenty of people here who can tell you not only what they think, but they can tell you why they think it. There are others that merely echo what they've heard elsewhere, whether it's Fox or Rush or Franken or Moore ... they rarely if ever provide examples or explanations, they just say "The U.S. is the greatest country ever!" or "Israel is an evil occupying force!" or whatever their cause of the day is, but if they have any idea why they think those things, they don't share it with the rest of us. You know which people are which.

    I'm not sure that addressed my point, but yes, I agree...there are plenty of musicians who don't think when it comes to politics, and merely echo what they hear...lack of originality.

    My question is, is what is a fox news soundbite?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    chopitdown wrote:
    you forgot the Mountie Uniform and processed maple syrup on that list.

    Doh!

    That'll serve me for copy/paste ing.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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