do you eat meat?

taratara Posts: 293
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
i've been veggie for about 9 years now, and recently considered going back to meat, i've come up with every excuse in the book, i'm tired (which was solved by taking iron, b12, oh, and sleeping), i'm an athlete i need the protein, i'll buy free-range organic (which i recently found out doesn't mean much, and that free-range and free-run are different). then i clicked on a link, intersted to know why someone had posted a link somewhere about kfc:

http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/pamela_anderson_video?c=kfcbatmw12406&qp_source=kfcblogadtmw12406

this just reinforced my vegetarianism, i couldn't watch parts of it. just thought i'd post the link here because i can't even think straight right now, but i hate preaching, and don't want to send it to my friends (all of whom eat animals), so i thought i'd put it here and hear what you all had to say about it.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    i just have to warn you if you choose to go back to meat: i was veggie for over 6 years and then i ate a cheeseburger. it made me throw up. be careful if you go for it.
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    yes i do eat meat
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Yes.......cow (both young & old), pig, chicken, fish, marine invertebrates, deer (two kinds: White-tailed & Caribou), Alligator, turtle (not my favorite), frog, quail, and duck.

    Free-range chickens are a danger for bird flu. :)
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    The Harvery's soy burger tastes just like a meat burger. So if people miss the burger taste I'm sure that'll satisfy them.

    But I love stuff with chicken, good source of protein.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I eat meat. If you are ever stranded with me, watch your back!
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  • I don't eat meat.
  • taratara Posts: 293
    VictoryGin wrote:
    i just have to warn you if you choose to go back to meat: i was veggie for over 6 years and then i ate a cheeseburger. it made me throw up. be careful if you go for it.

    and did you stick with the meat? i had chicken once, three years ago when i was in india, a family invited me for lunch, i couldn't say no. i was too full to eat until dinner then next day.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    tara wrote:
    and did you stick with the meat? i had chicken once, three years ago when i was in india, a family invited me for lunch, i couldn't say no. i was too full to eat until dinner then next day.

    So you as a vegertarian went to the land where animals are sacred and then ate chicken?
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    tara wrote:
    i've been veggie for about 9 years now, and recently considered going back to meat, i've come up with every excuse in the book, i'm tired (which was solved by taking iron, b12, oh, and sleeping), i'm an athlete i need the protein, i'll buy free-range organic (which i recently found out doesn't mean much, and that free-range and free-run are different). then i clicked on a link, intersted to know why someone had posted a link somewhere about kfc:

    http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/pamela_anderson_video?c=kfcbatmw12406&qp_source=kfcblogadtmw12406

    this just reinforced my vegetarianism, i couldn't watch parts of it. just thought i'd post the link here because i can't even think straight right now, but i hate preaching, and don't want to send it to my friends (all of whom eat animals), so i thought i'd put it here and hear what you all had to say about it.

    I've never heard of "free-run." What is that?

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  • I used to be a vegan..growing up I didn't eat meat at all.. but I was always plagued with stomach problems as I grew older.. around age 17 or so. I decided to try to start eating meat, that maybe my body needed it.. so I eat white meat only now and I have way more energy and no more stomach problems. Everyone's bodies are different.. I was also an athlete, figure skated 5-6 times a week.. plus took ballet for training and gymnastics for training.. I needed the protein.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    tara wrote:
    i've been veggie for about 9 years now, and recently considered going back to meat, i've come up with every excuse in the book, i'm tired (which was solved by taking iron, b12, oh, and sleeping), i'm an athlete i need the protein, i'll buy free-range organic (which i recently found out doesn't mean much, and that free-range and free-run are different). then i clicked on a link, intersted to know why someone had posted a link somewhere about kfc:

    http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/pamela_anderson_video?c=kfcbatmw12406&qp_source=kfcblogadtmw12406

    this just reinforced my vegetarianism, i couldn't watch parts of it. just thought i'd post the link here because i can't even think straight right now, but i hate preaching, and don't want to send it to my friends (all of whom eat animals), so i thought i'd put it here and hear what you all had to say about it.
    I've been a vegetarian for about 10 years, although I do occasionally eat fish. It was really easy for me ... there were things, like cheeseburgers and chicken wings, that I thought I'd really miss, but much to my surprise I never missed them at all.

    I do buy meat from time to time though, to serve to guests, so I'd be interested also to know the difference between "free range" and "free run." I try to buy organic, but that's not always possible.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I eat meat. If you are ever stranded with me, watch your back!
    Note to self: do NOT travel with Ahnimus
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  • meat is good. i eat meat on a regular basis. if i could afford it, i'd eat steak every night.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Earthgirl wrote:
    I used to be a vegan..growing up I didn't eat meat at all.. but I was always plagued with stomach problems as I grew older.. around age 17 or so. I decided to try to start eating meat, that maybe my body needed it.. so I eat white meat only now and I have way more energy and no more stomach problems. Everyone's bodies are different.. I was also an athlete, figure skated 5-6 times a week.. plus took ballet for training and gymnastics for training.. I needed the protein.

    My body tends to have an appreciation for meat. I notice when I haven't had an animal flesh meal in awhile, and actually get a craving for it.

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  • halvhalv Posts: 701
    Earthgirl wrote:
    I used to be a vegan..growing up I didn't eat meat at all.. but I was always plagued with stomach problems as I grew older.. around age 17 or so. I decided to try to start eating meat, that maybe my body needed it.. so I eat white meat only now and I have way more energy and no more stomach problems. Everyone's bodies are different.. I was also an athlete, figure skated 5-6 times a week.. plus took ballet for training and gymnastics for training.. I needed the protein.

    Weird...I had exactly the opposite reaction. My whole life I had terrible IBS (irratible bowel). There were days I would be lying on the floor in agony for over an hour with cramps. This lasted 28 years. I went vegetarian and the cramps went away completely. Nothing since. When my wife went vegan her asthma and allergies went away. But we all react differently.
    Just a comment about protein though...you can get plenty of protein on a vegan diet. I average about 80 grams a day without really trying and I'm fully vegan.
  • halvhalv Posts: 701
    hippiemom wrote:
    I've been a vegetarian for about 10 years, although I do occasionally eat fish. It was really easy for me ... there were things, like cheeseburgers and chicken wings, that I thought I'd really miss, but much to my surprise I never missed them at all.

    I do buy meat from time to time though, to serve to guests, so I'd be interested also to know the difference between "free range" and "free run." I try to buy organic, but that's not always possible.

    Free range and free run can often mean very little. Producers use these terms to make the public think they are getting chicken or eggs that lived a normal life when usually it's just the opposite. The only real way of having any confidence is to only by Certified Organic meats or eggs.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    halv wrote:
    Free range and free run can often mean very little. Producers use these terms to make the public think they are getting chicken or eggs that lived a normal life when usually it's just the opposite. The only real way of having any confidence is to only by Certified Organic meats or eggs.

    That may help.

    I think driving out to the country, or to your local Farmer's Market is the best bet. :)

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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    tara wrote:
    and did you stick with the meat? i had chicken once, three years ago when i was in india, a family invited me for lunch, i couldn't say no. i was too full to eat until dinner then next day.

    not entirely--i don't call myself a vegetarian, but i rarely eat meat. when i do, it's poultry or fish. or the rare all-beef cheesedog when i've been drinking. i've maybe cooked some tilapia 2 times in the past year. i usually buy and cook soy products, but i now have some leather shoes, which is something i didn't do when when i was veggie. but then again i also have vegan shoes. moo shoes are great!

    when i was a veggie, people always expressed their concern about protein to me. but americans eat too much protein really. i never felt that was a problem, especially because i eat cheese and dairy and lots of greens. and the soy of course.
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    you can't beat meat.
  • taratara Posts: 293
    gue_barium wrote:
    I've never heard of "free-run." What is that?

    i'm honestly not sure, i was at a party last night, talking to a freind about free-range eggs, and she was telling me that 'free-run' only got out for a few hours a day, or something like that, i think it's some sort of semantic way to get out of the rules

    ahh, i see that halv already answered this
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  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I was 'almost' vegarian for a long time, and my kids who already were convinced me to be one. It has been a little hard at times because I'm busy and don't like to cook, so I don't always eat well or enough, but that's not really the fault of vegetarianism. When I crave meat (which I didn't eat very much of anyway), it usually means I haven't been eating enough protein in general, so I pay better attention to that, in the form of eggs and tofu, and dairy. Even though its not always easy, I feel its the right thing to do, and its gotten easier.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    tara wrote:
    i've been veggie for about 9 years now, and recently considered going back to meat, i've come up with every excuse in the book, i'm tired (which was solved by taking iron, b12, oh, and sleeping), i'm an athlete i need the protein, i'll buy free-range organic (which i recently found out doesn't mean much, and that free-range and free-run are different). then i clicked on a link, intersted to know why someone had posted a link somewhere about kfc:

    http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/pamela_anderson_video?c=kfcbatmw12406&qp_source=kfcblogadtmw12406

    this just reinforced my vegetarianism, i couldn't watch parts of it. just thought i'd post the link here because i can't even think straight right now, but i hate preaching, and don't want to send it to my friends (all of whom eat animals), so i thought i'd put it here and hear what you all had to say about it.



    strict vegetarian of 15+ years now. I'm 31.

    It's like a door was freaking open.

    That was the time in my life when I realized I didnt need church.
    The time that I made decisions that werent ones that I was born into.

    Many of the people of the world walk around the world like little robots. If you were born Hindu, you don't question it since its all you know, so you continue, If you're born a meat eater, you don't question it since its all you know, so you continue.



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  • PickrPickr Posts: 161
    If God wanted us to be vegetarians then why did he make meat taste so good?
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  • halv wrote:
    Weird...I had exactly the opposite reaction. My whole life I had terrible IBS (irratible bowel). There were days I would be lying on the floor in agony for over an hour with cramps. This lasted 28 years. I went vegetarian and the cramps went away completely. Nothing since. When my wife went vegan her asthma and allergies went away. But we all react differently.
    Just a comment about protein though...you can get plenty of protein on a vegan diet. I average about 80 grams a day without really trying and I'm fully vegan.

    yah, but real protein as I like to call it just can't be replaced. I respect your vegan life style tho.. I grew up this way with my parents strongly believing in being a vegan. My dad later in life tho.. turned to meat just like me.. just to see and he loved pork and salmon. My mom tried fish a few times.
  • Pickr wrote:
    If God wanted us to be vegetarians then why did he make meat taste so good?


    hahaha that's funny.
  • bovy_jbovy_j Posts: 1,008
    Well, with my heritage and family, both sides being avid hunters, yes, I eat meat. Almost every kind I guess thats around where I live. Cow, pig, chicken, turkey, partridge, deer, moose, fish, lobster, clams. It's all fair game. I've never really considered going vegetarian, just isn't something that has ever crossed my mind. Would I ever consider? At some point, probably. But I couldn't be anywheres near my family.

    I really don't see what is wrong with eating meat. As well, we are animals that are in fact omnivores.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    bovy_j wrote:
    Well, with my heritage and family, both sides being avid hunters, yes, I eat meat. Almost every kind I guess thats around where I live. Cow, pig, chicken, turkey, partridge, deer, moose, fish, lobster, clams. It's all fair game. I've never really considered going vegetarian, just isn't something that has ever crossed my mind. Would I ever consider? At some point, probably. But I couldn't be anywheres near my family.

    I really don't see what is wrong with eating meat. As well, we are animals that are in fact omnivores.

    Do you ever eat Blootwurst/Black Pudding?

    I don't think I could stomach it myself, but it would be great to take into a PETA meeting.
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  • bovy_jbovy_j Posts: 1,008
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Do you ever eat Blootwurst/Black Pudding?

    I don't think I could stomach it myself, but it would be great to take into a PETA meeting.


    Lol...I'm not this big woodsy, Grizzly Adams type person and I am not really the hunting type, I've gone out with dad hunting numerous times though. I live in a smaller city with probably about 20,000 with a surrounding area of probably 50,000 and I just have a side of the family that likes hunting and fishing, as the area has great hunting and fishing places.

    But...to answer your question, yeah I've tried that a couple times. It's pretty strong tasting from what I can remember. I wasn't a big fan.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    bovy_j wrote:
    Lol...I'm not this big woodsy, Grizzly Adams type person and I am not really the hunting type, I've gone out with dad hunting numerous times though. I live in a smaller city with probably about 20,000 with a surrounding area of probably 50,000 and I just have a side of the family that likes hunting and fishing, as the area has great hunting and fishing places.

    But...to answer your question, yeah I've tried that a couple times. It's pretty strong tasting from what I can remember. I wasn't a big fan.

    I've never seen anyone eat it. I watched a documentary on the process of making Blood Sausage. Pretty gross, neat though.
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