34th annual March for Life on the 22nd

CorporateWhore

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm

Depiction of partial birth abortion process, which many of you would like to keep legal.

jlew24asu

CorporateWhore wrote:

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm

Depiction of partial birth abortion process, which many of you would like to keep legal.

there is no justification for partial birth abortions.

gimmesometruth27

CorporateWhore wrote:

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm

Depiction of partial birth abortion process, which many of you would like to keep legal.

here we go again with the images. thanks for sharing.

i think i will go plan a march to stop it now.....

seriously barroom you aren't going to change anyone's mind on this forum, so stop it. abortion is legal and an annual march will do nothing to change it. but go ahead, knock yourself out.

miller8966

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here we go again with the images. thanks for sharing.

i think i will go plan a march to stop it now.....

seriously barroom you aren't going to change anyone's mind on this forum, so stop it. abortion is legal and an annual march will do nothing to change it. but go ahead, knock yourself out.

Is that kind of like how you marched to stop the iraq war?

CorporateWhore

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

here we go again with the images. thanks for sharing.

i think i will go plan a march to stop it now.....

seriously barroom you aren't going to change anyone's mind on this forum, so stop it. abortion is legal and an annual march will do nothing to change it. but go ahead, knock yourself out.

Roe v. Wade will be overturned in the next 20 years.

Those pictures are pretty grotesque. I can't imagine supporting that "choice." Why do you support that?

gimmesometruth27

miller8966 wrote:

Is that kind of like how you marched to stop the iraq war?

i didn't march to stop the war. our leaders don't listen to the protestors, or the public at large for that matter so i don't waste my time. from what i hear most of the time they are put in nice little "free speech zones" blocks away from where the politicians can see them, so that its pointless to protest.

gimmesometruth27

CorporateWhore wrote:

Roe v. Wade will be overturned in the next 20 years.

Those pictures are pretty grotesque. I can't imagine supporting that "choice." Why do you support that?

ok. here goes.

i am pro choice. i am for a woman's Right to CHOOSE what happens to her body. end of story. that is it. that is not the same as PROABORTION!!!! if that woman's body is impregnated, then she has the right to have the child and keep it, give it up for adoption, or end the pregnancy early. in my opinion, no man, whether its a priest, boyfriend, doctor, president, father, one night stand, Jesus, or whomever should have any say or influence over that woman or her body. she should not be forced to have an unwanted baby. in the end all we really have in this world are our bodies. and if i were a woman and someone tried to tell me what i could and could not do with my only real posession i would fight them til the death to defend my rights as a human.

i will say that i am no fan of the procedure and if i ever knocked up my g/f i would hope that she would not have an abortion. but i am a bigger believer in our constitutional guarantees. i am glad l live in a country where a woman has the right to choose and that it is constitutionally protected.

there are things in this world that we are never going to agree upon. i am not forcing my faith or ideaology on anyone, but you are. i think the constitution exists to give people freedom and should not be ammended to take it away. that is why i am against a constitutional ban on gay marriage. the constitutions does not exist to deny rights, but to guarantee them.

Ahnimus

CorporateWhore wrote:

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm

Depiction of partial birth abortion process, which many of you would like to keep legal.

That's not nearly as bad as these
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/DEabortiongraphic.html
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/AbortionPictures/images/abortion-11-03.jpg
http://www.depraved.com/abort2.jpg
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/AbortionPictures/images/abortion-10-03.jpg
http://sibbyonline.blogs.com/sibbyonline/images/abortion2201.jpeg

Looks very similar to the pictures you get from wars
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/sites/afterdowningstreet.org/files/images/felluja%20siege%20baby_0.jpg
http://mindprod.com/images/burnedbaby.jpg
http://babykiller.com/war_is_terrorism_and_hell/collateralbaby.jpg

At least in the former the life-forms do not have the ability to experience.

CorporateWhore

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i will say that i am no fan of the procedure and if i ever knocked up my g/f i would hope that she would not have an abortion. but i am a bigger believer in our constitutional guarantees. i am glad l live in a country where a woman has the right to choose and that it is constitutionally protected.

Constitutionally, Roe v. Wade is based on foolishness. Here is a liberal individual who believes that Roe was decided wrongly:

"The prospect of some women traveling long distances to secure an abortion does not cheer me -- I'm pro-choice, I repeat -- but it would relieve us all from having to defend a Supreme Court decision whose reasoning has not held up. It seems more fiat than argument."
-Richard Cohen
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/19/AR2005101901974.html

Roe is not sensible law. It should be overturned. Cohen agrees because he cannot deny the idiocy of it.

If you support the constitution, you cannot support the way that abortion was legalized in America. It was unconstitutionally legalized. The states should have been left to legalize it.

CorporateWhore

Ahnimus wrote:

At least in the former the life-forms do not have the ability to experience.

http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_14.asp#By%208%20weeks?%20Show%20me!

Fetuses feel pain when you pull their brains out.

miller8966

If you dont belive in the right to abortion than march....i see nothing wrong with it.

Ahnimus

CorporateWhore wrote:

http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_14.asp#By%208%20weeks?%20Show%20me!

Fetuses feel pain when you pull their brains out.

A fruit fly feels pain when you squash it. Dude that's the fact of all living organisms.

gimmesometruth27

CorporateWhore wrote:

The states should have been left to legalize it.

if that ever happens then you might get your state to over turn it. it will never be overturned on the federal level.

CorporateWhore

Ahnimus wrote:

A fruit fly feels pain when you squash it. Dude that's the fact of all living organisms.

But fruit flies don't have human DNA.

Essentially you're saying that it's okay to kill human beings because it's okay to kill fruit flies.

Ahnimus

It's like this, I personally would never have an abortion, unless my life was at risk. I personally do not think actual "fetuses" should be aborted, I think there is a line between what is and isn't an acceptable stage of development. But I also think the legal age of consent should be around 16 without restriction as it is in many countries. Everyone has different opinions on it and that's why some things should be left up to individual choice.

miller8966

It disgusts me when i hear of women( if thats what you want to call them) having 2-3 abortions. I can see someone making a mistake in life and having 1 abortion but i really wish in general it would be illegal.

miller8966

Ahnimus wrote:

It's like this, I personally would never have an abortion, unless my life was at risk. I personally do not think actual "fetuses" should be aborted, I think there is a line between what is and isn't an acceptable stage of development. But I also think the legal age of consent should be around 16 without restriction as it is in many countries. Everyone has different opinions on it and that's why some things should be left up to individual choice.

Yea but in liberal america we give women a free pass...you dont have to tell your parents or tell the father ( thats if she knows who it is). Like everything their should be a process to it.

Ahnimus

miller8966 wrote:

Yea but in liberal america we give women a free pass...you dont have to tell your parents or tell the father ( thats if she knows who it is). Like everything their should be a process to it.

I still think this is the wrong way to solve the problem of unwanted pregnancies.

Every time a girl's father or mother objectifies the opposite sex it sets the model for sexual behavior. Sex is so embedded into our societies. It is the PRIME motivator for just about everyone. How can we expect a teenage girl to turn on showcase or whitness the top shelf of a magazine rack and not have sex irresponsibly? Irresponsible sex is the very substrate of western culture. Glamour, vanity and social status are all built on casual sex. Sex is the western way of life. Sex sells, etc.. etc.. It's irresponsible for anyone to place the sole responsibility on the teenage girl that has an unwanted pregnancy. Our culture and society is the basic factor in the development of our youth. Is it so difficult to see that? Is it so difficult to see that across cultures people are completely different, but within each culture very similar? Isn't that sufficient evidence to prove my point?

gue_barium

CorporateWhore wrote:

But fruit flies don't have human DNA.

Neither do Republicans.

Jeanie

Are there any women here on this thread? Or have they all been silenced yet again by some boys and their moralizing?