34th annual March for Life on the 22nd

CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
Anyone else going to the March for Life in Washington, D.C. this Monday?

I will be attending with my parish. We ride down in a bus from Herndon, VA.

The March for Life memorializes the tragedy of the Roe v. Wade decision which legalized abortion in America, as many of you know. The travesty of constitutional ignorance embodied in the decision is as assinine as it is easy to overturn.

Simple arguments can be used to clearly and incisively conclude that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided:

The 10th amendment states that "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." A majority of the states already had laws on the books that criminalized abortion. The states had undeniably decided that they had the power to determine whether abortion was legal or not.

The minority of Americans that supported abortion then decided that they didn't like the democratic process, so they would force the issue in the Supreme Court. They brought the issue up to the Supreme Court to decide, and instead of denying the validity of the case, the Supreme Court ruled on it illegally and unconstitutionally. It was a power grab by the Federal Government, which seeks more and more power for itself.

Anyone who is opposed to Bush's excessive power grabs and claims on our constitutional rights should also be opposed to the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade. Rather than allow the democratic process to run its course, the Supreme Court stole our rights as people and citizens of the respective states.

Here are photos of it:

Youth mass at the Verizon Center where 20,000 young people are packed in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rally_at_MCI_Center.JPG

Here are some other photos:

http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/01/march_for_life_4.php
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Who cares about Roe v Wade?

    Abortion is legal for good reasons. Fighting against it is just stupid.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Who cares about Roe v Wade?

    Abortion is legal for good reasons. Fighting against it is just stupid.
    such a bulletproof argument you make against being pro life.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    such a bulletproof argument you make against being pro life.

    Well if it isn't the dean of the Jlew Crew, Jlew himself.

    I suppose your going to this nonsense as well?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    Well if it isn't the dean of the Jlew Crew, Jlew himself.

    I suppose your going to this nonsense as well?

    I dare you to provide a constitutional reason why the Supreme Court had the power to rule on abortion.

    I will mail you a check for $1,000 US ($1,000,000 Canadian) if you can do it.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Well if it isn't the dean of the Jlew Crew, Jlew himself.

    I suppose your going to this nonsense as well?
    no I wont be traveling to DC for this. I have mixed feelings on abortion. I dont see either side as stupid as you so eloquently put it.
  • The 10th amendment states that "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."


    The Supreme Court reserved the power to the people themselves, not the federal or state governments.
  • The Supreme Court reserved the power to the people themselves, not the federal or state governments.

    False.

    The Federal Government has no constitutional authority to make that determination once the states have ruled on the matter.

    Let's not forget: the people elected state representatives to go to their respective capitols and vote against abortion in the legislature. This was an issue of the definition of when murder occurs. It is normally left up to the states and was, until the Federal Government ONCE AGAIN stole power from the states.

    Anyone else think they can argue in favor of Roe v. Wade?
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    The Supreme Court reserved the power to the people themselves, not the federal or state governments.

    Damn, I guess you get the $852,406 USD
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Anyone else think they can argue in favor of Roe v. Wade?

    Dude, like I said, who gives a shit about Roe v. Wade?

    Abortion is legal as it should be. You and your beliefs are a minority and nobody cares.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    Dude, like I said, who gives a shit about Roe v. Wade?

    Abortion is legal as it should be. You and your beliefs are a minority and nobody cares.

    According to your logic, any amount of illegal action is okay so long as you agree with the results.

    That's interesting.

    Therefore, according to your logic, the Supreme Court is within its rights to rule on just about any possible law anywhere at anytime in America, no matter how opposed to the constitution their ruling is.

    I didn't know you were a totalitarian! Haha.

    By the way, I knew you couldn't prove me wrong as it relates to the constitution. Liberals have trouble understanding the constitution because they believe that they are always right.

    I look forward to the day when the Supreme Court is full of right wing extremists who ban liberalism. Ahminus will still support them though because, hey!, it's all about results!!
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • Ah yes, he left because he knew he was wrong and couldn't defend his beliefs.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    hey i have a novel idea, why don't you run your body and let everyone else run theirs???? you disagree with abortion so don't have one. chief justice john roberts himself said that roe v wade is settled law. not that i really believe him though. he was probably just saying that to get approved.

    besides, if it was overturned you conservative church types would have nothing to complain about anymore. you all just keep giving the money and support to the conservative candidates that are powerless to change it. i find it funny that the religious right throws money at these holier than thou republicans yet they get nothing in return. its a great investment
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    When you have a uterus get back to me on this! AND fact is abortion is legal. But you'll jump up and down about it anyway regardless! And I won't be hanging about for anymore of your sad little opinions. Can't you just play nice for a change?
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Ah yes, he left because he knew he was wrong and couldn't defend his beliefs.
    Hahahaha .... yeah, I'm sure that was it ... he left because he was intimidated by your superior legal mind :D

    I'm pretty sure he left because he has better things to do than engage in one of your infantile arguments.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Jeanie wrote:
    When you have a uterus get back to me on this!
    as much as I hate the fact babies are killed for sometimes no other reason except they can;based on your somment, I have a hard time deciding if its right or wrong to allow them. I'm not a woman. I will never make the decision, I will never carry a baby, I will never get pregnant.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    hippiemom wrote:
    Hahahaha .... yeah, I'm sure that was it ... he left because he was intimidated by your superior legal mind :D

    I'm pretty sure he left because he has better things to do than engage in one of your infantile arguments.

    I actually left because I had work to do. My relief showed up around 11:00 PM and then I left work at Midnight. I'm home now, but I'm going to play poker. Because personally I don't care much about this thread. I'd rather play poker. :)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • hey i have a novel idea, why don't you run your body and let everyone else run theirs???? you disagree with abortion so don't have one. chief justice john roberts himself said that roe v wade is settled law. not that i really believe him though. he was probably just saying that to get approved.

    besides, if it was overturned you conservative church types would have nothing to complain about anymore. you all just keep giving the money and support to the conservative candidates that are powerless to change it. i find it funny that the religious right throws money at these holier than thou republicans yet they get nothing in return. its a great investment

    Blah blah blah blah.

    No arguments just vapid assertions. Defend Roe v. Wade for Christ's sake! Is that so hard?
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    jlew24asu wrote:
    as much as I hate the fact babies are killed for sometimes no other reason except they can;based on your somment, I have a hard time deciding if its right or wrong to allow them. I'm not a woman. I will never make the decision, I will never carry a baby, I will never get pregnant.

    Not having a go at you at all. It's just it never ceases to amaze me some people would choose the rights of an embryo that cannot support itself over that a fully functioning sexually mature female. And still not having a go at you but it makes me really angry when men, who will never have to make the decision one way or another think they have the right to dictate what I and other women will do with our bodies. When embryos can support themselves and or men can carry a pregnancy to full term then I might be more able to consider their opinion on this. My body, my choice. When it's your body it's your choice. AND people, both men and women, need to understand that the outcome of sex CAN in some cases result in pregnancy and perhaps a discussion about possible outcomes needs to happen before they get down and dirty together. Embryos are not babies. AND embryos deserve the right to be allowed to grow into a baby in a body that wants them there. Not trying to negate you. It just makes my blood boil when some people try to hijack a personal decision. If CorporateWhore and his pals really want to do some good in this world then how about looking after the children that are born in horrific circumstances to a life of misery? Or, gee, I don't know maybe spending a bit of their misguided energies on making sure that both males and females are properly educated in how to avoid being in a situation where they have to make this decision in the first place. But I understand what you are saying. It is a very difficult decision to have to make and I guess I can only say, be grateful you'll never have to make it. Hope you don't feel I'm earbashing you. This topic just really makes me cross! :mad: Not you or your comments. The topic.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • hippiemom wrote:
    Hahahaha .... yeah, I'm sure that was it ... he left because he was intimidated by your superior legal mind :D

    I'm pretty sure he left because he has better things to do than engage in one of your infantile arguments.
    You have no effing idea how to defend Roe v. Wade either. I could shut down anything you say so give it your best shot, mom.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    jlew24asu wrote:
    as much as I hate the fact babies are killed for sometimes no other reason except they can;based on your somment, I have a hard time deciding if its right or wrong to allow them. I'm not a woman. I will never make the decision, I will never carry a baby, I will never get pregnant.

    THis is the most ignorant, arrogant, and childish arguement of this issue. I'm not even pro-life, but this line of thinking is as dumb as you can get. seriously, it's dumb. "you can't have an opinion on abortion b/c you're not a female." That's an idiotic statement. as is the assertion that you can't have an opinion on the war if you don't have a family member fighting in it. how about actually forming an opinion, putting forth facts instead of falling back on emotional zingers.

    grow a backbone and make an argument people.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Jeanie wrote:
    Not having a go at you at all. It's just it never ceases to amaze me some people would choose the rights of an embryo that cannot support itself over that a fully functioning sexually mature female. And still not having a go at you but it makes me really angry when men, who will never have to make the decision one way or another think they have the right to dictate what I and other women will do with our bodies. When embryos can support themselves and or men can carry a pregnancy to full term then I might be more able to consider their opinion on this. My body, my choice. When it's your body it's your choice. AND people, both men and women, need to understand that the outcome of sex CAN in some cases result in pregnancy and perhaps a discussion about possible outcomes needs to happen before they get down and dirty together. Embryos are not babies. AND embryos deserve the right to be allowed to grow into a baby in a body that wants them there. Not trying to negate you. It just makes my blood boil when some people try to hijack a personal decision. If CorporateWhore and his pals really want to do some good in this world then how about looking after the children that are born in horrific circumstances to a life of misery? Or, gee, I don't know maybe spending a bit of their misguided energies on making sure that both males and females are properly educated in how to avoid being in a situation where they have to make this decision in the first place. But I understand what you are saying. It is a very difficult decision to have to make and I guess I can only say, be grateful you'll never have to make it. Hope you don't feel I'm earbashing you. This topic just really makes me cross! :mad: Not you or your comments. The topic.

    Stop with the crap.

    This is about Roe v. Wade and whether it was constitutional jurisprudence.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Jeanie wrote:
    Not having a go at you at all. It's just it never ceases to amaze me some people would choose the rights of an embryo that cannot support itself over that a fully functioning sexually mature female. And still not having a go at you but it makes me really angry when men, who will never have to make the decision one way or another think they have the right to dictate what I and other women will do with our bodies. When embryos can support themselves and or men can carry a pregnancy to full term then I might be more able to consider their opinion on this. My body, my choice. When it's your body it's your choice. AND people, both men and women, need to understand that the outcome of sex CAN in some cases result in pregnancy and perhaps a discussion about possible outcomes needs to happen before they get down and dirty together. Embryos are not babies. AND embryos deserve the right to be allowed to grow into a baby in a body that wants them there. Not trying to negate you. It just makes my blood boil when some people try to hijack a personal decision. If CorporateWhore and his pals really want to do some good in this world then how about looking after the children that are born in horrific circumstances to a life of misery? Or, gee, I don't know maybe spending a bit of their misguided energies on making sure that both males and females are properly educated in how to avoid being in a situation where they have to make this decision in the first place. But I understand what you are saying. It is a very difficult decision to have to make and I guess I can only say, be grateful you'll never have to make it. Hope you don't feel I'm earbashing you. This topic just really makes me cross! :mad: Not you or your comments. The topic.

    i guess the question revolves around the decision to close your legs, drive to the drug store, or "kill" (if you believe that) an embryo. decisions decisions. let convenience prevail.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Stop with the crap.

    This is about Roe v. Wade and whether it was constitutional jurisprudence.

    Then why is it called "The march for Life"?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    Then why is it called "The march for Life"?

    Why does it happen on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade??? Why don't you get back to playing poker because you are out of your element, donny.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Stop with the crap.

    This is about Roe v. Wade and whether it was constitutional jurisprudence.


    Look enjoy this while you have the chance kid. Fact is that there's been a huge swing against George and his religious cronies and if you really want to fight to get rid of Roe v. Wade then I say MARCH!! Give it your best shot because there is going to be a backlash against this religious monopoly sooner rather than later. And fact is you are in the minority anyway. So dance away!! I can't be bothered arguing with you and if you really want to look at some crap I suggest you read back over your posts. The board is littered with your verbal diarrohea!
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Jeanie wrote:
    there is going to be a backlash against this religious monopoly sooner rather than later.

    Do you realize there isn't that big of a gap in religious people voting for Bush vs. Gore or Kerry? (Fiorina 2001) Of course you don't b/c the media hypes up this religious bullshit.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Jeanie wrote:
    Look enjoy this while you have the chance kid. Fact is that there's been a huge swing against George and his religious cronies and if you really want to fight to get rid of Roe v. Wade then I say MARCH!! Give it your best shot because there is going to be a backlash against this religious monopoly sooner rather than later. And fact is you are in the minority anyway. So dance away!! I can't be bothered arguing with you and if you really want to look at some crap I suggest you read back over your posts. The board is littered with your verbal diarrohea!
    That's what I thought. You can't defend Roe v. Wade either.

    Anybody else?

    Looks like Roe v. Wade can constitutionally be overturned based on the debate in this thread.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    i guess the question revolves around the decision to close your legs, drive to the drug store, or "kill" (if you believe that) an embryo. decisions decisions. let convenience prevail.

    Abortion is legal and should be available to anyone who requires it under any circumstances. There is nothing "convenient" about being in a situation where you have to choose abortion over carrying a pregnancy to term. Abortion is just a surgical procedure. In most cases no more than a dilatation and curettage, the same procedure used to treat gynaecological problems in women. Perhaps we should all get up in arms and start protesting that removing cancer is "killing" a living organism and therefore immoral.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    That's what I thought. You can't defend Roe v. Wade either.

    Anybody else?

    Looks like Roe v. Wade can constitutionally be overturned based on the debate in this thread.

    funny how when the left is engaged they retreat. actually, it's not that funny..:(
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    That's what I thought. You can't defend Roe v. Wade either.

    Anybody else?

    Looks like Roe v. Wade can constitutionally be overturned based on the debate in this thread.

    I don't have to. It is already in place. And will stay in place.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
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