I did not speak for all men, I spoke for the men who were and still are in power, who wouldn't let women vote. That's all.
But you were not willing to speak for the men who backed the right of women to vote in bygone times nor the near unanimous majority who back the idea now. Interesting apporach.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
But you were not willing to speak for the men who backed the right of women to vote in bygone times nor the near unanimous majority who back the idea now. Interesting apporach.
no it's not. feminismists are all about pursuing a radical vaginocentric agenda: rolling back men's rights, the elimination of the urinal, etc.
Women still don't receive equal pay for the same work a man does. Therefore, feminism fights for EQUALITY. Equal pay, equal rights, everything. It's not about taking anything away from men.
Eddie Vedder is a feminist. Think of Daughter, Better Man, etc. It's all about being treated equal and with respect.
Main Entry: fem·i·nism
Pronunciation: 'fe-m&-"ni-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
I'll believe that definition is right when I see the feminist movement fighting, with the same fevour as they did for voting rights, for men to win more child custody cases. Feminism fights for causes where women get the short end of the stick and not for equality between the sexes. In much the same way the US says they are for a peaceful and equitable solution in the middle east but only supply arms and money to Isreal and only publically back Isreal.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I'll believe that definition is right when I see the feminist movement fighting, with the same fevour as they did for voting rights, for men to win more child custody cases. Feminism fights for causes where women get the short end of the stick and not for equality between the sexes. In much the same way the US says they are for a peaceful and equitable solution in the middle east but only supply arms and money to Isreal and only publically back Isreal.
while i certainly can't speak for all feminists, i think that women have been and still are unequal to men in certain political, economic, and social ways. and i think feminists have PLENTY to do, which takes a long time to get done, other than fighting for men. perhaps more men should be concerned with their equality. feminists simply can't fight for every single issue when there are so many that concern women to begin with. however, i also don't hear feminists say men shouldn't have better custody or shelters. i personally would suggest men fight for their rights instead of the perceived minority fighting for themselves and the perceived majority.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
while i certainly can't speak for all feminists, i think that women have been and still are unequal to men in certain political, economic, and social ways. and i think feminists have PLENTY to do, which takes a long time to get done, other than fighting for men. perhaps more men should be concerned with their equality. feminists simply can't fight for every single issue when there are so many that concern women to begin with. however, i also don't hear feminists say men shouldn't have better custody or shelters. i personally would suggest men fight for their rights instead of the perceived minority fighting for themselves and the perceived majority.
I'm onside with all you're saying. But please stop with the feminism is for equal rights when they only are fighting for equal rights where females get the shaft.
Fighting for equal rights would take some neutrality about issues being fought. But there's no neutrality. Only women's issues are fought for. They are fro the most part very valid fights to be having but in no way reflect a fight for equal rights.
If you were a parent it would be easy to say you love all your children equally. But would that be the case if you only invested all your time, energy and attention with one child?
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
That said, I could be a stay-at-home dad if that's what it took. If women want to work that badly and see out their own potential, fine! I'll sit at home, wrestle with the kids, feed them, watch ESPN, and drink beers. During naps I could ride my mountain bike.
I almost pissed myself from laughing so hard. I thought it was going to be a breeze to be a stay at home dad. I pictured myself dropping the kids off at school and hitting the driving range or golf course for the. Taking afternoon naps anor just lounging around reading a good book. Then it happened, the agency I worked at relocated and I was unemployeed. I was out of work for eight months and let me tell you it was less stressfull and tiresome to work a 14 hr day in the office than it was to stay at home. I found an all new respect for stay at home moms and dads after that time frame. Secondly man's need have always come before woman's needs. So why is it so wrong that a woman would trade in her apron and mop for a business suit and briefcase. A woman should not be chained to her home and children. The mother of my children has a demanding career but she still manges to make time for our three kids everyday. She might not be there every second of every day but I believe it's not the quantity of time you spend with your children but the quality.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I'm onside with all you're saying. But please stop with the feminism is for equal rights when they only are fighting for equal rights where females get the shaft.
Fighting for equal rights would take some neutrality about issues being fought. But there's no neutrality. Only women's issues are fought for. They are fro the most part very valid fights to be having but in no way reflect a fight for equal rights.
If you were a parent it would be easy to say you love all your children equally. But would that be the case if you only invested all your time, energy and attention with one child?
well i still see it as equal rights. are there really no feminists that don't support custody equality? i've actually read feminist articles that have mentioned it. i don't know anyone who doesn't support that, but i can certainly understand women being more active in issues in which they are negatively impacted. there are unfortunately too many issues in which women are negatively impacted and not enough time. but again, i don't know a feminist that doesn't support custody equality and doesn't realize that women have the advantage there. in fact, that is a complaint among feminists i know because that kind of advantage just goes to reinforce traditional gender roles in which a women should be the caretaker.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
I'll believe that definition is right when I see the feminist movement fighting, with the same fevour as they did for voting rights, for men to win more child custody cases. Feminism fights for causes where women get the short end of the stick and not for equality between the sexes. In much the same way the US says they are for a peaceful and equitable solution in the middle east but only supply arms and money to Isreal and only publically back Isreal.
I also think there is still a lot of work to be done when it comes to women acquiring equal treatment and that's where the focus will remain. I would definitely get behind a movement towards equality in custody cases. The child should always go to the most fit parent. I cringe when I hear about children being stuck with a shitty, uncaring mother. If both parents are equally fit then it gets sticky. An older child can decide but with younger ones, joint custody seems like it would be very hard to work around, especially concerning giving the child a sense of normalcy.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Hell, I'm all for a woman deciding what she wants to do. By all means, don't get married at all. But if she gets married, I think the best decision is for her to take care of the kids until they're ready to go to school. That's best for kids. Kids need moms when they're little, not dads.
That said, I could be a stay-at-home dad if that's what it took. If women want to work that badly and see out their own potential, fine! I'll sit at home, wrestle with the kids, feed them, watch ESPN, and drink beers. During naps I could ride my mountain bike.
Feminism just seems very selfish to me. It's all about what women want and not what men want too.
now, i know i'm entering a wide-world of pain here, but this is a very valid conversation, so so be it.
perhaps there should be a masculinism movement too, since having some type of official politik seems to be the only effective way of creating political-awareness[es] and social-change,....
i've always wondered: how has the case become that there are Foot-Locker stores, most-often divided in content with both men's and women's apparel, but then, or rather, now there are also Lady-Foot-Locker stores devoted solely to the feminine gender?
for the sake of my health i shall refrain from venturing/posturing an answer to this immaculate riddle.
we don’t know just where our bones will rest,
to dust i guess,
forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
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obviously using sarcasm. Obviously you have no sense of humor.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Then, why are most "celebrity chefs" male?
Well men always surpass women.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
no it's not. feminismists are all about pursuing a radical vaginocentric agenda: rolling back men's rights, the elimination of the urinal, etc.
Those men are feminists.
http://www.caebuttons.com/images/products/feminist%20tshirt.jpg
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I could care less where you place me.
Eddie Vedder is a feminist. Think of Daughter, Better Man, etc. It's all about being treated equal and with respect.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
oh no, now they'll be onto me!
that's it. that's it. i'm not afraid to say it any longer-- I LOVE THE VAG! It's all about the vag!
cross the river to the eastside
i'll second that.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Take that up with Merriam Webster.
feminism
One entry found for feminism.
Main Entry: fem·i·nism
Pronunciation: 'fe-m&-"ni-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
you TOLD him our plan?!!?!?
oh i guess i just got so excited about the vag that i couldn't hold it in any longer.
seriously speaking about feminism though, i'm currently reading a great book called, 'we don't need another wave'.
cross the river to the eastside
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
while i certainly can't speak for all feminists, i think that women have been and still are unequal to men in certain political, economic, and social ways. and i think feminists have PLENTY to do, which takes a long time to get done, other than fighting for men. perhaps more men should be concerned with their equality. feminists simply can't fight for every single issue when there are so many that concern women to begin with. however, i also don't hear feminists say men shouldn't have better custody or shelters. i personally would suggest men fight for their rights instead of the perceived minority fighting for themselves and the perceived majority.
cross the river to the eastside
sadly that's not all it entails.
cross the river to the eastside
Fighting for equal rights would take some neutrality about issues being fought. But there's no neutrality. Only women's issues are fought for. They are fro the most part very valid fights to be having but in no way reflect a fight for equal rights.
If you were a parent it would be easy to say you love all your children equally. But would that be the case if you only invested all your time, energy and attention with one child?
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I almost pissed myself from laughing so hard. I thought it was going to be a breeze to be a stay at home dad. I pictured myself dropping the kids off at school and hitting the driving range or golf course for the. Taking afternoon naps anor just lounging around reading a good book. Then it happened, the agency I worked at relocated and I was unemployeed. I was out of work for eight months and let me tell you it was less stressfull and tiresome to work a 14 hr day in the office than it was to stay at home. I found an all new respect for stay at home moms and dads after that time frame. Secondly man's need have always come before woman's needs. So why is it so wrong that a woman would trade in her apron and mop for a business suit and briefcase. A woman should not be chained to her home and children. The mother of my children has a demanding career but she still manges to make time for our three kids everyday. She might not be there every second of every day but I believe it's not the quantity of time you spend with your children but the quality.
well i still see it as equal rights. are there really no feminists that don't support custody equality? i've actually read feminist articles that have mentioned it. i don't know anyone who doesn't support that, but i can certainly understand women being more active in issues in which they are negatively impacted. there are unfortunately too many issues in which women are negatively impacted and not enough time. but again, i don't know a feminist that doesn't support custody equality and doesn't realize that women have the advantage there. in fact, that is a complaint among feminists i know because that kind of advantage just goes to reinforce traditional gender roles in which a women should be the caretaker.
cross the river to the eastside
I also think there is still a lot of work to be done when it comes to women acquiring equal treatment and that's where the focus will remain. I would definitely get behind a movement towards equality in custody cases. The child should always go to the most fit parent. I cringe when I hear about children being stuck with a shitty, uncaring mother. If both parents are equally fit then it gets sticky. An older child can decide but with younger ones, joint custody seems like it would be very hard to work around, especially concerning giving the child a sense of normalcy.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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Equality in what? The right to tell someone else what to pay you isn't equality sister.
Methinks it socialism.
-Enoch Powell
now, i know i'm entering a wide-world of pain here, but this is a very valid conversation, so so be it.
perhaps there should be a masculinism movement too, since having some type of official politik seems to be the only effective way of creating political-awareness[es] and social-change,....
i've always wondered: how has the case become that there are Foot-Locker stores, most-often divided in content with both men's and women's apparel, but then, or rather, now there are also Lady-Foot-Locker stores devoted solely to the feminine gender?
for the sake of my health i shall refrain from venturing/posturing an answer to this immaculate riddle.
to dust i guess,
forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..