An Interesting angle on the Columbine thing

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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    mammasan wrote:
    The David Cole who in 1998 publicaly recanted all his statements about the Holocaust and has since come out and stated that there where indeed gas chambers employed by the Nazi's to exterminate Jews. That David Cole.

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  • JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    My dad, aunt and uncle, who are survivors, all agree that it wasn't exaggerated.

    Academic scepticism can be healthy, but the pattern of blind faith you seem to put in your conspiracy theories is simply a form of ignorance.


    Why people think I'm automatically indoctrinated by the viewpoints I present is what I'm wondering. I suppose everyone could all talk about the weather all day...

    Your relatives, are they all firmly convinced that the gassing of people was what it was?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • ohhhhhhhh i thought he said David Alan Coe.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Man a lot of hard asses on this site lately...
    ...
    I understand... and admittedly.. admire your questioning of what is fed to us... through our education and our media. That same questioning reveals typical bullshit (i.e. George Washington and the Cherry Tree) we learn as school kids, and discover the truths as adults.
    However, the events of WWII are well documented and there are still eye witnesses to actual events. Truth? Exaggeration? We don't know for sure. All we can go by is what we know to exist.
    And what exists is the well documented Nazi process of carrying out Adolph Hitler's Final Solution to the Jewish Problem in Europe. There is no denying what happened at Auschwitz, Buchanwald and Dachau.
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  • Nevermind wrote:
    Im pretty sure he believes that it happened AND was exaggerated. You guys sur elove to take things out of context. Im pretty sure calling someone a fuckstick isnt acceptable. People have been banned for less.

    All things obvious aside. This place gets remarkably immature these days
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,619
    Why people think I'm automatically indoctrinated by the viewpoints I present is what I'm wondering. I suppose everyone could all talk about the weather all day...

    Your relatives, are they all firmly convinced that the gassing of people was what it was?

    When their relatives were lead away, and did not return, they were convinced.
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    All things obvious aside. This place gets remarkably immature these days

    you have GOT to be kidding. I've been no angel in my short time here but how the fuck can you say this????

    98.99% of your responses are hehe....omg...lol...some bad joke lame response, a question to a question.....

    unfuckingbelieveable that you just said this.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    U.S. Banks funded the Nazis. Our presidents grandfather was a big supporter himself. If it wasnt for the Rockefellers the nazis couldnt have blown France to shit.
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    mammasan wrote:
    The David Cole who in 1998 publicaly recanted all his statements about the Holocaust and has since come out and stated that there where indeed gas chambers employed by the Nazi's to exterminate Jews. That David Cole.

    care to respond to this roland?
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    you have GOT to be kidding. I've been no angel in my short time here but how the fuck can you say this????

    98.99% of your responses are hehe....omg...lol...some bad joke lame response, a question to a question.....

    unfuckingbelieveable that you just said this.
    That post was exaggerated more than the Holocaust.
  • Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    I understand... and admittedly.. admire your questioning of what is fed to us... through our education and our media. That same questioning reveals typical bullshit (i.e. George Washington and the Cherry Tree) we learn as school kids, and discover the truths as adults.
    However, the events of WWII are well documented and there are still eye witnesses to actual events. Truth? Exaggeration? We don't know for sure. All we can go by is what we know to exist.
    And what exists is the well documented Nazi process of carrying out Adolph Hitler's Final Solution to the Jewish Problem in Europe. There is no denying what happened at Auschwitz, Buchanwald and Dachau.

    They took items from the holocaust museum i.e. examples of human soap and a supposed skin lampshade samples, and they were both found to be unauthentic.

    Could it be that many were starved to death, frozen to death, died from common illness, or were they in fact gassed to death? It matters, as gassing is a more heinous act by comparison.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Nevermind wrote:
    Im pretty sure he believes that it happened AND was exaggerated. You guys sur elove to take things out of context. Im pretty sure calling someone a fuckstick isnt acceptable. People have been banned for less.

    You are right there is no room for immaturity but you have to expect a heated response when you make allusions to event of the Holocaust being exaggerated.
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  • lazymoon13 wrote:
    you have GOT to be kidding. I've been no angel in my short time here but how the fuck can you say this????

    98.99% of your responses are hehe....omg...lol...some bad joke lame response, a question to a question.....

    unfuckingbelieveable that you just said this.

    whoa....easy.....you're getting spit all over yourself...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    whoa....easy.....you're getting spit all over yourself...

    lazymoon13 wrote:
    some bad joke lame response

    :rolleyes:
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Nevermind wrote:
    U.S. Banks funded the Nazis. Our presidents grandfather was a big supporter himself. If it wasnt for the Rockefellers the nazis couldnt have blown France to shit.
    ...
    Germany was able to spin up their War manufacturing machine is a relatively short period. And it was because of foriegn investments from the U.S.
    Granted... some of the investments were supposed to be for domestic growth (i.e. the Focke-Wulfe Condor and Messerschmidt Medium Range Bombers began life as passenger planes)... but, Panzer Tanks and Stuka Fighter/Bombers... come on, they have no other use than to wage war.
    I don't buy the Kennedys, Bushs, Rockerfellers claims about not knowing they would wage war. That was all Hitler talked about.
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  • lazymoon13 wrote:
    care to respond to this roland?


    They threatened to kill him...duh...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    They threatened to kill him...duh...

    So he recanted because of some death threats, must not have really had his heart into what he was saying.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mammasan wrote:
    The David Cole who in 1998 publicaly recanted all his statements about the Holocaust and has since come out and stated that there where indeed gas chambers employed by the Nazi's to exterminate Jews. That David Cole.


    dayum!!!
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,619
    I'm referring to the findings of David Cole.

    Have you ever cited someone credible?
  • mammasan wrote:
    So he recanted because of some death threats, must not have really had his heart into what he was saying.

    Not just him...his family. That situation changes a lot of minds.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    They threatened to kill him...duh...



    :rolleyes:
  • JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Have you ever cited someone credible?

    Are you being an idiot?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Not just him...his family. That situation changes a lot of minds.


    how do you know this?

    would him saying "they" threatened his life and his family result in him being killed anyway? "oh, i recanted because they threatened tio kill me"... wouldnt that make "them" want to kill him even more? by bvascily saying he was forced to recant, so his findings were true?
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Are you being an idiot?


    your cred is falling farther and farther my friend... quit while you are ahead
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    my2hands wrote:
    your cred is falling farther and farther my friend... quit while you are ahead

    he's ahead? :confused:
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    They took items from the holocaust museum i.e. examples of human soap and a supposed skin lampshade samples, and they were both found to be unauthentic.

    Could it be that many were starved to death, frozen to death, died from common illness, or were they in fact gassed to death? It matters, as gassing is a more heinous act by comparison.
    ...
    Still, the fact remains... they died in those camps. Maybe not by gassing... but by starving to death. Which, in my opinion, is a horrible, painful and prolonged agonizing death. All while German soldiers (who were not starving) stood guard over them.
    There were also public hangings and firing squads (another example German effeciency, stand the victims 2 deep and fire at a close range so one bullet kils 2 people). if the second bullet does not kill him... the live burial with the dead will.
    So, regardless of how they died... you cannot deny that they did, in fact die.
    That is the point I am making.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    he's ahead? :confused:


    yes.... and there is a youtube or infowars link to prove it.
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  • my2hands wrote:
    :rolleyes:

    Go make a controversial documentary on the holocaust. Then Get the JDL and Zionist friends on your ass and decide how long you want to fight it and promote your documentary career in the meantime.

    It amazes me when some people don't even know the circumstances but comment as though they do anyway... :rolleyes:

    http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zgrams/zg1998/zg9809/980912.html

    "David Cole - Became a victim of the JDL. Was physically beaten. Had his life threatened on the Internet by the Jewish Defense League. Background and contribution: This young Jewish Revisionist filmmaker came to the defense of Ernst Zundel when Zundel needed defending. Subsequently, Zundel and Cole made a film in Auschwitz, with David Cole pointing out all the things wrong with that theme park of hate against Germans. Later yet, Cole came to Canada to lecture to large audiences on his Revisionist findings in Auschwitz, together with David Irving. He also appeared with Zundel in Munich, Germany, spreading Revisionism right under the watchful eyes of the German political police. In a vicious letter posted on the Internet, the Jewish Defense League threatened Cole's life. Emotionally fragile and torn between his conscience and family loyalties as well as filial devotion, he could not withstand the pressure and recanted with an abject apology to his tribesmen and tormentors. Every serious Revisionist understands that this act of recantation was coerced and may have bought David his very survival."
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Go make a controversial documentary on the holocaust. Then Get the JDL and Zionist friends on your ass and decide how long you want to fight it and promote your documentary career in the meantime.

    It amazes me when some people don't even know the circumstances but comment as though they do anyway... :rolleyes:

    http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zgrams/zg1998/zg9809/980912.html

    "David Cole - Became a victim of the JDL. Was physically beaten. Had his life threatened on the Internet by the Jewish Defense League. Background and contribution: This young Jewish Revisionist filmmaker came to the defense of Ernst Zundel when Zundel needed defending. Subsequently, Zundel and Cole made a film in Auschwitz, with David Cole pointing out all the things wrong with that theme park of hate against Germans. Later yet, Cole came to Canada to lecture to large audiences on his Revisionist findings in Auschwitz, together with David Irving. He also appeared with Zundel in Munich, Germany, spreading Revisionism right under the watchful eyes of the German political police. In a vicious letter posted on the Internet, the Jewish Defense League threatened Cole's life. Emotionally fragile and torn between his conscience and family loyalties as well as filial devotion, he could not withstand the pressure and recanted with an abject apology to his tribesmen and tormentors. Every serious Revisionist understands that this act of recantation was coerced and may have bought David his very survival."

    did you just create that site yourself?
  • hailhailkchailhailkc Posts: 582
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Still, the fact remains... they died in those camps. Maybe not by gassing... but by starving to death. Which, in my opinion, is a horrible, painful and prolonged agonizing death. All while German soldiers (who were not starving) stood guard over them.
    There were also public hangings and firing squads (another example German effeciency, stand the victims 2 deep and fire at a close range so one bullet kils 2 people). if the second bullet does not kill him... the live burial with the dead will.
    So, regardless of how they died... you cannot deny that they did, in fact die.
    That is the point I am making.

    Cosmo, you are the man! I saw you changed your sig! LOL!!! Awesome!
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