President misquoted over gays in Iran: aide

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no, roland started to make this an anti american/christianity problem when it was proven to him that Iran does in fact execute people for being gay.

    thats all he knows really.

    well, it takes two sides to play...

    personally, I think it's terrible that in this day and age, gays are executed in some counties...
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    MrSmith wrote:
    Is their any proof beyond the words of IRANS PRESIDENTIAL MEDIA ADVISOR that he was misquoted?

    I don't know...
    MrSmith wrote:
    Was he denying the persecution of gays because their aren't that many , or was he denying the persecution of gays because their are no gays at all? Either way, he still looks like an asshole.

    I don't know...when should we invade...?
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    baraka wrote:
    I'll probably take some heat from some of my fellow left-leaning posters, but I feel the need to address this as I have been seeing this trend in several threads.

    I feel that US foreign policy is very objectionable and it continues the cycle of violence we see throughout the world. I love the principles my country was founded on and I feel it is my country's responsibility to live up to a particular standard. Lately, it seems to me we have failed time and time again. This is not to say that my country has not done and accomplished wonderful things.

    That said, I have a problem uplifting questionable men(or women or countries) in order to make the US look 'bad'. It frankly is not needed as each reprehensible action stands on its own. Is is possible that we can express disdain for US foreign policy and the current administration and also feel that Ahmadinejad is 'not a very nice guy'?

    Bravo....Bravo!
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    NMyTree wrote:
    " Homosexuality is punishable by death in the Islamic Republic."


    I suspect they have just as many homosexuals in Iran, as in America or anywhere else. But how many homosexuals are going to admit being homosexuals, if they know they will be punished by death? How many will take any chances of engaging in intercourse or any intimate behavior?

    I agree with you on this bit.
    NMyTree wrote:
    Sheesh, Ahmadinejad and his spin machine are making themselves look even more foolish and absurd.

    But the true spin machine is the western media where it concern this guy.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    WOW, you keep pulling me back in with your nonsense.

    America is a Christian country. are gays executed by the state?

    you amaze me...you really do.

    Is America Iran?

    No. Iran is different.

    Is an apple an orange? Should all oranges be eliminated?

    That's how I see it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    haha whats with all the invasion talk? i just said he was a liar and a shitty human being.

    I don't even think the Iraq war should have happened.

    Get off your crutches, people. free your minds. people who disagree aren't automatically warmongers.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    spiral out wrote:
    I agree with you on this bit.


    But the true spin machine is the western media where it concern this guy.

    The true spin machines are churning every day, every night and doing overtime; in both of our countries. As well as in just about every country on the planet.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no, roland started to make this an anti american/christianity problem when it was proven to him that Iran does in fact execute people for being gay.

    thats all he knows really.

    Actually it's about the US being so high and mighty, and everyone else deserves what they get from the end of a gun barrel.

    Every single country has had all kinds of stupid laws. Laws change over time.

    People change. Societies change.

    Should they be allowed to, or be forced to is the question.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    NMyTree wrote:
    The true spin machines are churning every day, every night and doing overtime; in both of our countries. As well as in just about every country on the planet.

    this is very true...

    has anyone else noticed some similarities between bushy and big makmoo...

    they both saber rattle, often throwing out bullshit accusations to get the masses riled and they both are not well supported by the majority of those they supposed to represent...
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If pretty much everyone in America was a devout hardcore Christian, you don't think there would be serious repercussions for being gay?

    I'd bet there would be, in that scenario.


    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

    Go back about 150-200 years ago, and you pretty much get the same deal in the US.

    Fairly accurate, but not to the degree of what it is in Iran.

    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    How so? It's really all about religion isn't it?
    People are people. Iran is not some evil empire.


    Iran is a country who's laws are deeply rooted in their religion, to extreme levels.
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    NMyTree wrote:
    The true spin machines are churning every day, every night and doing overtime; in both of our countries. As well as in just about every country on the planet.

    Yes your right but at the moment it is all about discrediting this guy. So a bombing campaign or war or watever the greedy f**ks have got planned can take place at whatever point in time that they have it planned, they do it all the time and i don't like when people buy into this bulls88t time and time again.

    It's the Iraq rubbish all over again and people eat it up.

    Round, round, round we go.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    inmytree wrote:
    this is very true...

    has anyone else noticed some similarities between bushy and big makmoo...

    they both saber rattle, often throwing out bullshit accusations to get the masses riled and they both are not well supported by the majority of those they supposed to represent...

    And they even look alike! They have that same dopey look on their face.
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Actually it's about the US being so high and mighty, and everyone else deserves what they get from the end of a gun barrel.

    Every single country has had all kinds of stupid laws. Laws change over time.

    People change. Societies change.

    Should they be allowed to, or be forced to is the question.

    Your right here roland.

    There culture will evolve in it's own time.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    spiral out wrote:
    Yes your right but at the moment it is all about discrediting this guy. So a bombing campaign or war or watever the greedy f**ks have got planned can take place at whatever point in time that they have it planned, they do it all the time and i don't like when people buy into this bulls88t time and time again.

    It's the Iraq rubbish all over again and people eat it up.

    Round, round, round we go.


    Yep.

    Some people.....I guess too many people seem to have a problem addressing individual subject matters or issues; without trying to generalize everything and everyone into one simple little package, to make it easier for them to understand. Apparently thinking makes their heads hurt and in need of a nap.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I guess Roland doesn't appreciate my solution:D
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Actually it's about the US being so high and mighty, and everyone else deserves what they get from the end of a gun barrel.

    Every single country has had all kinds of stupid laws. Laws change over time.

    People change. Societies change.

    Should they be allowed to, or be forced to is the question.

    maybe if you take a second and stop such blind hatred for the US you can see that other countries (like Iran) do far worse things to people. but theres no getting through to you.
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    NMyTree wrote:
    I say we send over some male Interior Decorators, with some lovely and tasteful chiffon evening dresses, curtains, colorful throw pillows; and redecorate the whole place.

    He he, I just read this. I don't know, Iran has some pretty decent taste in art and decor, I think.........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_art
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    maybe if you take a second and stop such blind hatred for the US you can see that other countries (like Iran) do far worse things to people. but theres no getting through to you.


    It's far from blind. The opposite actually.

    The US govt's solution is actually worse than the problem itself. So how is it a solution then?

    The "solution" is in fact creating a bigger problem.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    maybe if you take a second and stop such blind hatred for the US you can see that other countries (like Iran) do far worse things to people. but theres no getting through to you.

    Well this thread is not about that but as you mention it, how many people has the war in iraq killed compared to those in iran?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    NMyTree wrote:
    I guess Roland doesn't appreciate my solution:D

    Actually I found it quite lovely :p
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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