President misquoted over gays in Iran: aide
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The term lost in translation comes to mind. Why the western media has such a raging hard on for smearing this guy, and this country, I'll never know. Iran has been a peaceful country for the last 1000 years to my knowledge.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBLA05294620071010
"TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's president was misrepresented by Western media when he was quoted saying there were no gays in Iran, and actually meant there were not so many as in the United States, a presidential aide said on Wednesday.
Addressing New York's Columbia University last month, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad replied to a question about gays in the Islamic Republic saying: "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."
Speaking through a translator, he also said: "In Iran we don't have this phenomenon."
The remarks drew widespread criticism in the West.
Homosexuality is punishable by death in the Islamic Republic.
"What Ahmadinejad said was not a political answer. He said that, compared to American society, we don't have many homosexuals," presidential media adviser Mohammad Kalhor said.
Kalhor told Reuters that because of historical, religious and cultural differences homosexuality was less common in Iran and the Islamic world than in the West."
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBLA05294620071010
"TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's president was misrepresented by Western media when he was quoted saying there were no gays in Iran, and actually meant there were not so many as in the United States, a presidential aide said on Wednesday.
Addressing New York's Columbia University last month, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad replied to a question about gays in the Islamic Republic saying: "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."
Speaking through a translator, he also said: "In Iran we don't have this phenomenon."
The remarks drew widespread criticism in the West.
Homosexuality is punishable by death in the Islamic Republic.
"What Ahmadinejad said was not a political answer. He said that, compared to American society, we don't have many homosexuals," presidential media adviser Mohammad Kalhor said.
Kalhor told Reuters that because of historical, religious and cultural differences homosexuality was less common in Iran and the Islamic world than in the West."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Who the fuck cares what he said or whether or not he was mistranslated as long as the above is the case?
yup, sounds peaceful to me.
So do you think they are actually executing gays?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iran#Application_of_laws
hmm
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over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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no they werent. I thought this was about Iran. amazing how quickly you change the subject.
Like in the muslim peace thread, knowing history is valuable and to say that the united states has a lot of human rights skeletons in its historical closet is true and should not be swept under the rug. But the state can kill you for being gay in Iran. That cannot happen here.
The story of the (apparent) misquite is definately worth bringing up, and we'll see how much publicity it gets vs. when it was "originally" quoted. But there is no getting around that the quote that two others quoted above is the real shame of the story. This story can't be used to say "the US is worse."
No? They didn't have people running around burning their churches down and hanging them?
I'm trying to decide who is less tolerant against whom Iran against homosexuality or you (and others) against all Muslims (not just Iran).
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Well white citizen's killing of blacks was condoned by the courts, which I would say is tacit govenment approval. Nevertheless, we don't execute anyone now for being (insert group here).
There is also gap in cultures. Societies grow over time.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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wow you are really setting yourself up to look like a fool.
you asked if Iran actually executes people for being gay. the answer is yes.
America doesn't kill people for being black.
This is from 2005! That is so yesterday! :rolleyes:
They (America) certainly used to.
Perhaps you expect nothing less than your own experience, and are intolerant of others beliefs?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I am very intolerant of Iran killing people because they are gay. even if you applaud it.
can you imagine the thread you and your buddy roland would make if America hung people in 2005 for being gay.
my guess is you'd be a little upset and call America out for it.
1800 yrs - 2 yrs, it's the past man, let it go. Give examples of 2007!
History is history. Apples is apples, not oranges.
When did I say I applauded it?
I said your level of tolerance towards people that are differ from you is essentially zero.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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when did I see you condemn it?
what are you basing this comment from? should I be more tolerant of Iran killing gays?
haha the first sign of someone who just got their ass owned.
"Do you really think they execute gays? oh! uh...they do? oh well...uh..um...America sux and is full of murdering nazis!!!!!"
-Roland
This "real" interpretation is just damage control. This wasn't lost in translation. That excuse posted is seriously spin control.
I'd be more upset if the US shot and bombed innocent people.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I posted it for a reason, maybe you'll get it eventually.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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oops.
I thinking you want everyone to be like America even if they have to die in the process.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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It seems that one is ahead of another.
Yes definitely. Different societies grow at different rates.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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again, why should I be tolerate of a country that publicly hangs people for being gay?
Why should you be tolerant of anything you don't like?
Good question.
What's your solution then?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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