Was he denying the persecution of gays because their aren't that many , or was he denying the persecution of gays because their are no gays at all? Either way, he still looks like an asshole.
I'll probably take some heat from some of my fellow left-leaning posters, but I feel the need to address this as I have been seeing this trend in several threads.
I feel that US foreign policy is very objectionable and it continues the cycle of violence we see throughout the world. I love the principles my country was founded on and I feel it is my country's responsibility to live up to a particular standard. Lately, it seems to me we have failed time and time again. This is not to say that my country has not done and accomplished wonderful things.
That said, I have a problem uplifting questionable men(or women or countries) in order to make the US look 'bad'. It frankly is not needed as each reprehensible action stands on its own. Is is possible that we can express disdain for US foreign policy and the current administration and also feel that Ahmadinejad is 'not a very nice guy'?
" Homosexuality is punishable by death in the Islamic Republic."
I suspect they have just as many homosexuals in Iran, as in America or anywhere else. But how many homosexuals are going to admit being homosexuals, if they know they will be punished by death? How many will take any chances of engaging in intercourse or any intimate behavior?
Sheesh, Ahmadinejad and his spin machine are making themselves look even more foolish and absurd.
But the true spin machine is the western media where it concern this guy.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
WOW, you keep pulling me back in with your nonsense.
America is a Christian country. are gays executed by the state?
you amaze me...you really do.
Is America Iran?
No. Iran is different.
Is an apple an orange? Should all oranges be eliminated?
That's how I see it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
But the true spin machine is the western media where it concern this guy.
The true spin machines are churning every day, every night and doing overtime; in both of our countries. As well as in just about every country on the planet.
no, roland started to make this an anti american/christianity problem when it was proven to him that Iran does in fact execute people for being gay.
thats all he knows really.
Actually it's about the US being so high and mighty, and everyone else deserves what they get from the end of a gun barrel.
Every single country has had all kinds of stupid laws. Laws change over time.
People change. Societies change.
Should they be allowed to, or be forced to is the question.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The true spin machines are churning every day, every night and doing overtime; in both of our countries. As well as in just about every country on the planet.
this is very true...
has anyone else noticed some similarities between bushy and big makmoo...
they both saber rattle, often throwing out bullshit accusations to get the masses riled and they both are not well supported by the majority of those they supposed to represent...
The true spin machines are churning every day, every night and doing overtime; in both of our countries. As well as in just about every country on the planet.
Yes your right but at the moment it is all about discrediting this guy. So a bombing campaign or war or watever the greedy f**ks have got planned can take place at whatever point in time that they have it planned, they do it all the time and i don't like when people buy into this bulls88t time and time again.
It's the Iraq rubbish all over again and people eat it up.
Round, round, round we go.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
has anyone else noticed some similarities between bushy and big makmoo...
they both saber rattle, often throwing out bullshit accusations to get the masses riled and they both are not well supported by the majority of those they supposed to represent...
And they even look alike! They have that same dopey look on their face.
Actually it's about the US being so high and mighty, and everyone else deserves what they get from the end of a gun barrel.
Every single country has had all kinds of stupid laws. Laws change over time.
People change. Societies change.
Should they be allowed to, or be forced to is the question.
Your right here roland.
There culture will evolve in it's own time.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Yes your right but at the moment it is all about discrediting this guy. So a bombing campaign or war or watever the greedy f**ks have got planned can take place at whatever point in time that they have it planned, they do it all the time and i don't like when people buy into this bulls88t time and time again.
It's the Iraq rubbish all over again and people eat it up.
Round, round, round we go.
Yep.
Some people.....I guess too many people seem to have a problem addressing individual subject matters or issues; without trying to generalize everything and everyone into one simple little package, to make it easier for them to understand. Apparently thinking makes their heads hurt and in need of a nap.
Actually it's about the US being so high and mighty, and everyone else deserves what they get from the end of a gun barrel.
Every single country has had all kinds of stupid laws. Laws change over time.
People change. Societies change.
Should they be allowed to, or be forced to is the question.
maybe if you take a second and stop such blind hatred for the US you can see that other countries (like Iran) do far worse things to people. but theres no getting through to you.
I say we send over some male Interior Decorators, with some lovely and tasteful chiffon evening dresses, curtains, colorful throw pillows; and redecorate the whole place.
maybe if you take a second and stop such blind hatred for the US you can see that other countries (like Iran) do far worse things to people. but theres no getting through to you.
It's far from blind. The opposite actually.
The US govt's solution is actually worse than the problem itself. So how is it a solution then?
The "solution" is in fact creating a bigger problem.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
maybe if you take a second and stop such blind hatred for the US you can see that other countries (like Iran) do far worse things to people. but theres no getting through to you.
Well this thread is not about that but as you mention it, how many people has the war in iraq killed compared to those in iran?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Liberal ivory tower elitism at its finest. their tiny ape brains will evolve and come around eventually, right? In he meantime, don't say anything bad about their president 'cuz that means you're a Bush loving, bombdropping knuckledragger who loves killing people.
Liberal ivory tower elitism at its finest. their tiny ape brains will evolve and come around eventually, right? In he meantime, don't say anything bad about their president 'cuz that means you're a Bush loving, bombdropping knuckledragger who loves killing people.
You don't half post a load of crap.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I'll treat Iranian politicians as i do anyone else. when I think their culture is fucked (in some areas), I'll let it be known. I won't wait for their culture to evolve.
I'll treat Iranian politicians as i do anyone else. when I think their culture is fucked (in some areas), I'll let it be known. I won't wait for their culture to evolve.
Well our culture needs evolve to, our culture is also fucked in some areas. So why don't you treat it with equal contempt. Or indeed do something about it.
But i kind of get the feeling that you think you are the best and everyone should act like you.
You live up to your namesake.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
My dept has been monitoring your internet use for a long time now.
Thanks for all the good porn links...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Well our culture needs evolve to, our culture is also fucked in some areas. So why don't you treat it with equal contempt. Or indeed do something about it.
the other 90% of posters do a pretty good job of pointing out Americas fuckups, so I don't feel as much of a need. But maybe i should. Bush's failed administration is pretty much obvious at this point, considering he only has about 30% support, he hasn't passed anything through congress in over a year, and is probably in the alltime bottom 3 of US presidents.
I'll probably take some heat from some of my fellow left-leaning posters, but I feel the need to address this as I have been seeing this trend in several threads.
I feel that US foreign policy is very objectionable and it continues the cycle of violence we see throughout the world. I love the principles my country was founded on and I feel it is my country's responsibility to live up to a particular standard. Lately, it seems to me we have failed time and time again. This is not to say that my country has not done and accomplished wonderful things.
That said, I have a problem uplifting questionable men(or women or countries) in order to make the US look 'bad'. It frankly is not needed as each reprehensible action stands on its own. Is is possible that we can express disdain for US foreign policy and the current administration and also feel that Ahmadinejad is 'not a very nice guy'?
Wow, I'd actually keep up with these threads and post more around here if there were more people like you on these boards. Sadly, I don't really come around anymore because most posters are of the "Roland" type, and it's just not worth it. And you don't learn anything from the other side except how to bring up irrelevant things or slander those you with whom you disagree out of desperation or lack of an intellectual rebuttal.
I know this message board isn't indicative of the left as a whole, but it sure does represent the worst it has to offer. Most of the posters on here would do more for their cause by keeping to themselves rather than trying to defend them in the most bankrupt ways.
But I guess you guys need a place to express your views too, so I should probably just find another message board to exchange ideas. It just sucks though becuase I really dig the band...
I'll probably take some heat from some of my fellow left-leaning posters, but I feel the need to address this as I have been seeing this trend in several threads.
I feel that US foreign policy is very objectionable and it continues the cycle of violence we see throughout the world. I love the principles my country was founded on and I feel it is my country's responsibility to live up to a particular standard. Lately, it seems to me we have failed time and time again. This is not to say that my country has not done and accomplished wonderful things.
That said, I have a problem uplifting questionable men(or women or countries) in order to make the US look 'bad'. It frankly is not needed as each reprehensible action stands on its own. Is is possible that we can express disdain for US foreign policy and the current administration and also feel that Ahmadinejad is 'not a very nice guy'?
That's fine. Who is elevating one over the other? Certainly not I.
Attempting to equalize somewhat perhaps. That's fair and appropriate. I'd like to know when exactly in the past 6 years did America become so high and mighty as human beings in their views towards other countries?
One could argue US foreign policy has become quite a disaster.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Comments
well, it takes two sides to play...
personally, I think it's terrible that in this day and age, gays are executed in some counties...
I don't know...
I don't know...when should we invade...?
Bravo....Bravo!
I agree with you on this bit.
But the true spin machine is the western media where it concern this guy.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Is America Iran?
No. Iran is different.
Is an apple an orange? Should all oranges be eliminated?
That's how I see it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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I don't even think the Iraq war should have happened.
Get off your crutches, people. free your minds. people who disagree aren't automatically warmongers.
The true spin machines are churning every day, every night and doing overtime; in both of our countries. As well as in just about every country on the planet.
Actually it's about the US being so high and mighty, and everyone else deserves what they get from the end of a gun barrel.
Every single country has had all kinds of stupid laws. Laws change over time.
People change. Societies change.
Should they be allowed to, or be forced to is the question.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
this is very true...
has anyone else noticed some similarities between bushy and big makmoo...
they both saber rattle, often throwing out bullshit accusations to get the masses riled and they both are not well supported by the majority of those they supposed to represent...
I'd bet there would be, in that scenario.
Fairly accurate, but not to the degree of what it is in Iran.
Iran is a country who's laws are deeply rooted in their religion, to extreme levels.
Yes your right but at the moment it is all about discrediting this guy. So a bombing campaign or war or watever the greedy f**ks have got planned can take place at whatever point in time that they have it planned, they do it all the time and i don't like when people buy into this bulls88t time and time again.
It's the Iraq rubbish all over again and people eat it up.
Round, round, round we go.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
And they even look alike! They have that same dopey look on their face.
Your right here roland.
There culture will evolve in it's own time.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Yep.
Some people.....I guess too many people seem to have a problem addressing individual subject matters or issues; without trying to generalize everything and everyone into one simple little package, to make it easier for them to understand. Apparently thinking makes their heads hurt and in need of a nap.
maybe if you take a second and stop such blind hatred for the US you can see that other countries (like Iran) do far worse things to people. but theres no getting through to you.
He he, I just read this. I don't know, Iran has some pretty decent taste in art and decor, I think.........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_art
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
It's far from blind. The opposite actually.
The US govt's solution is actually worse than the problem itself. So how is it a solution then?
The "solution" is in fact creating a bigger problem.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Well this thread is not about that but as you mention it, how many people has the war in iraq killed compared to those in iran?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Actually I found it quite lovely
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Liberal ivory tower elitism at its finest. their tiny ape brains will evolve and come around eventually, right? In he meantime, don't say anything bad about their president 'cuz that means you're a Bush loving, bombdropping knuckledragger who loves killing people.
You don't half post a load of crap.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Well our culture needs evolve to, our culture is also fucked in some areas. So why don't you treat it with equal contempt. Or indeed do something about it.
But i kind of get the feeling that you think you are the best and everyone should act like you.
You live up to your namesake.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
You mean the answer to jlew? Then yes!
but I dont even like bush
My dept has been monitoring your internet use for a long time now.
Thanks for all the good porn links...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
the other 90% of posters do a pretty good job of pointing out Americas fuckups, so I don't feel as much of a need. But maybe i should. Bush's failed administration is pretty much obvious at this point, considering he only has about 30% support, he hasn't passed anything through congress in over a year, and is probably in the alltime bottom 3 of US presidents.
Wow, I'd actually keep up with these threads and post more around here if there were more people like you on these boards. Sadly, I don't really come around anymore because most posters are of the "Roland" type, and it's just not worth it. And you don't learn anything from the other side except how to bring up irrelevant things or slander those you with whom you disagree out of desperation or lack of an intellectual rebuttal.
I know this message board isn't indicative of the left as a whole, but it sure does represent the worst it has to offer. Most of the posters on here would do more for their cause by keeping to themselves rather than trying to defend them in the most bankrupt ways.
But I guess you guys need a place to express your views too, so I should probably just find another message board to exchange ideas. It just sucks though becuase I really dig the band...
That's fine. Who is elevating one over the other? Certainly not I.
Attempting to equalize somewhat perhaps. That's fair and appropriate. I'd like to know when exactly in the past 6 years did America become so high and mighty as human beings in their views towards other countries?
One could argue US foreign policy has become quite a disaster.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")