Isn't that a rather telling moment in history. The silence(ing) was deafening.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Isn't that a rather telling moment in history. The silence(ing) was deafening.
I'm confused as to why you pointed to the spp website at the beginning of the thread, as you obviously believe the NAU and shared currency to be fact but when you posted the links to the site (and Harper's aid's email referred to it as well) you didn't say anything other than here is the site. I may have missed it if you posted that a few pages in instead.
Could you clarify your reasons behind posting those links?
So they can introduce the Amero and form the North American Union.
"When the U.S. currency collapses, it will take with it, both the Canadian dollar and Mexican Peso because both countries are so heavily invested in the U.S. dollar through trade with the US.
During such a collapse, when hundreds of millions of average citizens face absolute destitution because their currencies have been wiped out, these Conspirators will turn to 'The People" of each nation and say "your only hope is to merge all three countries and make a new start." "
This NAU deal is not some myth folks...it's coming. It's here. Notice the date on the coins?
I'm confused as to why you pointed to the spp website at the beginning of the thread, as you obviously believe the NAU and shared currency to be fact but when you posted the links to the site (and Harper's aid's email referred to it as well) you didn't say anything other than here is the site. I may have missed it if you posted that a few pages in instead.
Could you clarify your reasons behind posting those links?
Someone asked for credible sources. I just regurgitated what the gov't is giving telling me and drawing additional conclusions based on current and past political events from around the world.
It really is just my opinion on how the economy will react and/or the causes therein, however I believe the writing is already on the wall.
I can see it all taking shape now, stemming from 09/11/2001.
Breaking down North America right now into one big country is crazy talk, but not only are they talking about it....they are doing it....and for years now. since 9/11.
Also especially now with the Iraq war going on. No gov't has resouces to do both jobs responsibly. Think about it. This is a all some scheme planned from the very beginning.
It a scam on the public being played out by highly questionable individuals doing highly questionable things around the world.
Terrorism is a tactic. You cannot wage a war on it. How utterly ludicrous!! Terrorism is a reflex response to conflict...oppression...foreign occupation. Look at who is imposing where right now, and doing what. Wasting trillions to burden the US economy into great disadvantage and potential peril.
War mongers. North America is about to be over run by war mongering power hungry elitists. Should we allow it?
Ok, I rambled there... but I hope I answered your question.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Someone asked for credible sources. I just regurgitated what the gov't is giving telling me and drawing additional conclusions based on current and past political events from around the world.
It really is just my opinion on how the economy will react and/or the causes therein, however I believe the writing is already on the wall.
I can see it all taking shape now, stemming from 09/11/2001.
Breaking down North America right now into one big country is crazy talk, but not only are they talking about it....they are doing it....and for years now. since 9/11.
Also especially now with the Iraq war going on. No gov't has resouces to do both jobs responsibly. Think about it. This is a all some scheme planned from the very beginning.
It a scam on the public being played out by highly questionable individuals doing highly questionable things around the world.
Terrorism is a tactic. You cannot wage a war on it. How utterly ludicrous!! Terrorism is a reflex response to conflict...oppression...foreign occupation. Look at who is imposing where right now, and doing what. Wasting trillions to burden the US economy into great disadvantage and potential peril.
War mongers. North America is about to be over run by war mongering power hungry elitists. Should we allow it?
Ok, I rambled there... but I hope I answered your question.
More or less. I think the confusion was that I had the impression you were attempting to provide facts, and the spp website denies there are any treaties or agreements signed, and deny any plans to form a common currency or NAU. Normally I don't believe much of what the government says, so the impressions of fact and intent collided in my brain.
At this stage I'm not really sure what to believe. It would certainly not come as a big surprise if this stuff was in the works, but I'm not convinced that it is a near-future inevitability or current fact yet.
More or less. I think the confusion was that I had the impression you were attempting to provide facts, and the spp website denies there are any treaties or agreements signed, and deny any plans to form a common currency or NAU. Normally I don't believe much of what the government says, so the impressions of fact and intent collided in my brain.
At this stage I'm not really sure what to believe. It would certainly not come as a big surprise if this stuff was in the works, but I'm not convinced that it is a near-future inevitability or current fact yet.
Fair enough. Being aware is half the battle. It's apparent to me from your response that you are an open minded educated individual with good intentions.
A refreshing change from the usual responses I see here.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I don't think anyone's going like much of anything Bush is planning...
It isn't just Bush and his cronies... It is the RNC & the DNC too! This is something bigger than the scope of our knowledge as citizens, but it will be very interesting to see what takes place here, if anything... could be a bunch of hype and bullshit... like the 9/11 truthers are putting out...
Fair enough. Being aware is half the battle. It's apparent to me from your response that you are an open minded educated individual with good intentions.
A refreshing change from the usual responses I see here.
Roland you are smarter than to fall into the old Liberal clap trap thinking that if we agree with you we're open minded but if we don't agree with you we are close minded or uneducated. It's the same mind set that George Bush uses when he says "you're either with us or against us", just worded differently.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Roland you are smarter than to fall into the old Liberal clap trap thinking that if we agree with you we're open minded but if we don't agree with you we are close minded or uneducated.
Oh nobody has to agree with me word for word....or at all.
However, I don't think it would be wise to turn a blind eye to what's going on either. What's that saying about absolute power corrupts...and it corrupting absolutely?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Depends on what she is referring to as "source" meaning of what information.
For my conclusions on the economy, you are correct. No such thing exists in direct form because it's an hypothesis. I am taking for granted people can see this.
For the the NAU/SPP deal going on behind closed doors, I listed two official govt websites, with supporting dialog from leaders of two prominent political parties in Canada as confirmation.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
For my conclusions on the economy, you are correct. No such thing exists in direct form because it's an hypothesis. I am taking for granted people can see this.
You're using alot of the same flawed arguments that the Creationists use.
"If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
—Dorothy Parker
You're using alot of the same flawed arguments that the Creationists use.
Keep in mind that's a pretty sweeping statement.
I've always admired the humanitarian approach. Shame it too must die along with entire races, legacies, and civilizations of people.
I refuse to believe there is no solution otherwise. Two very diametrically opposed lines of thought to consider.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
this place is funny. so 1 guy says the amero is going to happen and its PROOF? FACT!!!!! GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!
the reporter from CNBC looked like he was holding in his laugh.
again, this place is funny. you will believe anything that is posted on the internet. as long as it goes against the grain, you are sold. hook line and sinker. I know its funny, but I actually feel sorry for you.
And you are the complete oposite you believe anything they tell you in the news not much different from us really.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Of course, the loonies will all conveniently ignore that particular detail.
Yes I realized that after the fact. However the NAU is no joke, and with it comes a new currency at some point. If you don't think, the banks are going to be touched with all the proposed infrastructure changes, you're far crazier than I'll ever be.
Look at the Euro. It's really common sense if you can piece some key international developments together. Call me a loonie but you'd be very, very wrong.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
For the the NAU/SPP deal going on behind closed doors, I listed two official govt websites, with supporting dialog from leaders of two prominent political parties in Canada as confirmation.
The video is always a bit of a clincher, too, clearly proving these talks/agreements have and are happening. The horses mouth. Check out the very savvy communication and focus on "prosperity" and "security". And "peace". The communication is eerily slick. The words are very potent--emotional hooks. "exercise of democracy", "democracy is firmly a part of the future of this 'neighbourhood' of ours. He has effectively opened the mind of anyone who hears this, so he can implant whatever he wants to, using key words that are consoling and satisfying to all citizens. It is so highly calculated. There is a lot riding on these words. It's the foot in the door. And it is very successful, which is why there is big concern.
Why was such video so conspicuously absent from our national medias? Why did we not know about this? It has been designed to operate above our heads and power, seemingly.
I told you before and i'll say it again. I dont watch the news. sometimes I willlook at yahoo's headlines but thats about it.
well maybe thats not true. I watch CNBC alot.
I didn't mean to offend you dude, i was just saying that you believe everything that happens to be told to us by the media.
Where as i quite happily take it with a pinch of salt as it usually turns out to be complete bulls**t.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
yikes, no I dont. so yea, some offense taken.
some is, some isnt.
Ok well the views you post up on here are usually the same claptrap from the media so please do forgive for seeing you in that light.
It's very rare that i read something that doesn't sound like it was provided by the media from you.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
The video is always a bit of a clincher, too, clearly proving these talks/agreements have and are happening. The horses mouth. Check out the very savvy communication and focus on "prosperity" and "security". And "peace". The communication is eerily slick. The words are very potent--emotional hooks. "exercise of democracy", "democracy is firmly a part of the future of this 'neighbourhood' of ours. He has effectively opened the mind of anyone who hears this, so he can implant whatever he wants to, using key words that are consoling and satisfying to all citizens. It is so highly calculated. There is a lot riding on these words. It's the foot in the door. And it is very successful, which is why there is big concern.
Why was such video so conspicuously absent from our national medias? Why did we not know about this? It has been designed to operate above our heads and power, seemingly.
Oh definitely. The entire dialog is so ridiculously catch phrase, and cliche it makes me want to hurl. Bush talks like this all the time. He is some slick operator, and well rehearsed let me tell you.
When someone tell lies for a living, and learns to emotionally detach from the process of disinformation for a "higher cause" they can get really good at it.
I worked for a company that hired new receptionists and personal assistants to the CEO that had to lie all the time on almost every phone call as to the availability, outgoing payments, propaganda etc (it was a publicly traded company). Many quit and couldn't handle it. The ones that stayed got really good at making things up. I was pretty high up in the company with the VP's, CFO, and CEO and in their personal lives. I was privy to some pretty disturbing information, as I setup and oversaw all their information systems (across 3 countries) and had full access to everything. I saw some pretty serious shit.
I also did consulting work with a CA associate of mine, he's the VP now of some international industrial lighting company based in the UK. This guy could lie to you all day long...I've never seen anything like it in my life. He could spin anything and be 100% convincing at it....and effortlessly.
Yeah so anyway, I know what people are capable of doing...and at the world leader level I basically know what to already expect.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Oh definitely. The entire dialog is so ridiculously catch phrase, and cliche it makes me want to hurl. Bush talks like this all the time. He is some slick operator, and well rehearsed let me tell you.
When someone tell lies for a living, and learns to emotionally detach from the process of disinformation for a "higher cause" they can get really good at it.
I worked for a company that hired new receptionists and personal assistants to the CEO that had to lie all the time on almost every phone call as to the availability, outgoing payments, propaganda etc (it was a publicly traded company). Many quit and couldn't handle it. The ones that stayed got really good at making things up. I was pretty high up in the company with the VP's, CFO, and CEO and in their personal lives. I was privy to some pretty disturbing information, as I setup and oversaw all their information systems (across 3 countries) and had full access to everything. I saw some pretty serious shit.
I also did consulting work with a CA associate of mine, he's the VP now of some international industrial lighting company based in the UK. This guy could lie to you all day long...I've never seen anything like it in my life. He could spin anything and be 100% convincing at it....and effortlessly.
Yeah so anyway, I know what people are capable of doing...and at the world leader level I basically know what to already expect.
People are rarely aware of the power of assocation in order to emotionally ready someone to accept what they don't want. For example: referring North America to a neighbourhood! Right away they have already psychologically deleted the borders in a way that in our psyches, we completely accept it! And further--they have made it sound all nice and friendly! All we need to do is pop Mr. Rogers into the neighbourhood! And of course, the same sentence, as well as the speech in general, is litered with words like democracy, so we can be "assured" our basic rights are respected....why, we need not even question things.........................
In a few years, they need only keep replaying these key associations they have already implanted in our willing psyches, and why, we practically add the vibe of Mr. Rogers ourselves to their proposals, given the emotional appeal we've associated with "neighbourhood" our whole lives. Why, a North American Union seems so....cozy and close-knit!
This is the same principle behind the pharmaceutical ads that must tell of he horrific side effects of their advertised meds: ie: bloating, cramping, projectile vomiting, sudden diahorrea....they know we don't really even hear the words, or care about them, when they are playing happy emotional scenes in the background that entice our inner emotionally hungering child. We'll be happy to chance projectile vomiting if we can associate ourselves with happy, loving family images. They address our personal unconscious agendas, and we're willing to completely overlook theirs.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
People are rarely aware of the power of assocation in order to emotionally ready someone to accept what they don't want. For example: referring North America to a neighbourhood! Right away they have already psychologically deleted the borders in a way that in our psyches, we completely accept it! And further--they have made it sound all nice and friendly! All we need to do is pop Mr. Rogers into the neighbourhood! And of course, the same sentence, as well as the speech in general, is litered with words like democracy, so we can be "assured" our basic rights are respected....why, we need not even question things.........................
In a few years, they need only keep replaying these key associations they have already implanted in our willing psyches, and why, we practically add the vibe of Mr. Rogers ourselves to their proposals, given the emotional appeal we've associated with "neighbourhood" our whole lives. Why, a North American Union seems so....cozy and close-knit!
This is the same principle behind the pharmaceutical ads that must tell of he horrific side effects of their advertised meds: ie: bloating, cramping, projectile vomiting, sudden diahorrea....they know we don't really even hear the words, or care about them, when they are playing happy emotional scenes in the background that entice our inner emotionally hungering child. We'll be happy to chance projectile vomiting if we can associate ourselves with happy, loving family images. They address our personal unconscious agendas, and we're willing to completely overlook theirs.
There's loads of psychologists and a variety of analysts that work in the govt, media, and advertising that routinely brainstorm and conduct social engineering attacks on the public all the time. Actually, it's a pretty constant message.
Anyone that studies the media or advertising methods can point it out quickly and see it. Actually it usually the fist observation and connection people make. Some other people well....they are usually informed about it under much protest and disbelief (which essentially to be expected).
It's an extremely slippery slope, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, which is how I know those that mock out of in disbelief, and fail to realistically consider the ramifications of what is happening right now, are essentially out of touch, or do not know enough to form a valid conclusion on the issue.
Anyhow that's my take on it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
It's an extremely slippery slope, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, which is how I know those that mock out of in disbelief, and fail to realistically consider the ramifications of what is happening right now, are essentially out of touch, or do not know enough to form a valid conclusion on the issue.
This is where I get confused on your point of view. You say this but seem to be a backer of the NDP. The party who wants to make government even more powerful.
I appreciate the motto "absolute power corrupts absolutely" and am disspointed that Canada does not have a political party wanting to lessen the power, role and size of government.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
This is where I get confused on your point of view. You say this but seem to be a backer of the NDP. The party who wants to make government even more powerful.
I appreciate the motto "absolute power corrupts absolutely" and am disspointed that Canada does not have a political party wanting to lessen the power, role and size of government.
Actually I bounce questions off the NDP because they seem to be the least "pro govt" of the three but hey like you said I'm not kidding myself about them either
We have a party similar to Ron Paul, or Dennis Kucinich called the Canadian Action Party. They too are heavily suppressed and excluded from participating due to their points of view, so hardly anyone knows about them. However I doubt many would vote for them.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Actually I bounce questions off the NDP because they seem to be the least "pro govt" of the three but hey like you said I'm not kidding myself about them either
We have a party similar to Ron Paul, or Dennis Kucinich called the Canadian Action Party. They too are heavily suppressed and excluded from participating due to their points of view, so hardly anyone knows about them. However I doubt many would vote for them.
That's cool. The paradox about the NDP while having stances that seem to be the least pro government they seem to want the most government intervention.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
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Isn't that a rather telling moment in history. The silence(ing) was deafening.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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I'm confused as to why you pointed to the spp website at the beginning of the thread, as you obviously believe the NAU and shared currency to be fact but when you posted the links to the site (and Harper's aid's email referred to it as well) you didn't say anything other than here is the site. I may have missed it if you posted that a few pages in instead.
Could you clarify your reasons behind posting those links?
The vid isn't bad.
I would also point out that the coins pictured in your links are jokes that you appear to be passing off as fact. 'Parody' coins designed by parody coin designer Daniel Carr.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57194
http://www.designscomputed.com/coins/amero.html
Someone asked for credible sources. I just regurgitated what the gov't is giving telling me and drawing additional conclusions based on current and past political events from around the world.
It really is just my opinion on how the economy will react and/or the causes therein, however I believe the writing is already on the wall.
I can see it all taking shape now, stemming from 09/11/2001.
Breaking down North America right now into one big country is crazy talk, but not only are they talking about it....they are doing it....and for years now. since 9/11.
Also especially now with the Iraq war going on. No gov't has resouces to do both jobs responsibly. Think about it. This is a all some scheme planned from the very beginning.
It a scam on the public being played out by highly questionable individuals doing highly questionable things around the world.
Terrorism is a tactic. You cannot wage a war on it. How utterly ludicrous!! Terrorism is a reflex response to conflict...oppression...foreign occupation. Look at who is imposing where right now, and doing what. Wasting trillions to burden the US economy into great disadvantage and potential peril.
War mongers. North America is about to be over run by war mongering power hungry elitists. Should we allow it?
Ok, I rambled there... but I hope I answered your question.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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More or less. I think the confusion was that I had the impression you were attempting to provide facts, and the spp website denies there are any treaties or agreements signed, and deny any plans to form a common currency or NAU. Normally I don't believe much of what the government says, so the impressions of fact and intent collided in my brain.
At this stage I'm not really sure what to believe. It would certainly not come as a big surprise if this stuff was in the works, but I'm not convinced that it is a near-future inevitability or current fact yet.
Fair enough. Being aware is half the battle. It's apparent to me from your response that you are an open minded educated individual with good intentions.
A refreshing change from the usual responses I see here.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
It isn't just Bush and his cronies... It is the RNC & the DNC too! This is something bigger than the scope of our knowledge as citizens, but it will be very interesting to see what takes place here, if anything... could be a bunch of hype and bullshit... like the 9/11 truthers are putting out...
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Oh nobody has to agree with me word for word....or at all.
However, I don't think it would be wise to turn a blind eye to what's going on either. What's that saying about absolute power corrupts...and it corrupting absolutely?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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They can't produce one, because there isn't any.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
Depends on what she is referring to as "source" meaning of what information.
For my conclusions on the economy, you are correct. No such thing exists in direct form because it's an hypothesis. I am taking for granted people can see this.
For the the NAU/SPP deal going on behind closed doors, I listed two official govt websites, with supporting dialog from leaders of two prominent political parties in Canada as confirmation.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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You're using alot of the same flawed arguments that the Creationists use.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
Keep in mind that's a pretty sweeping statement.
I've always admired the humanitarian approach. Shame it too must die along with entire races, legacies, and civilizations of people.
I refuse to believe there is no solution otherwise. Two very diametrically opposed lines of thought to consider.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Of course, the loonies will all conveniently ignore that particular detail.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
And you are the complete oposite you believe anything they tell you in the news not much different from us really.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Yes I realized that after the fact. However the NAU is no joke, and with it comes a new currency at some point. If you don't think, the banks are going to be touched with all the proposed infrastructure changes, you're far crazier than I'll ever be.
Look at the Euro. It's really common sense if you can piece some key international developments together. Call me a loonie but you'd be very, very wrong.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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I told you before and i'll say it again. I dont watch the news. sometimes I willlook at yahoo's headlines but thats about it.
well maybe thats not true. I watch CNBC alot.
Why was such video so conspicuously absent from our national medias? Why did we not know about this? It has been designed to operate above our heads and power, seemingly.
ie: http://www.baylortv.com/streaming/000777/300kbps_ref.mov
http://www.baylortv.com/video.php?id=000777
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
So you are one of the damn sheep. Fascist!
I didn't mean to offend you dude, i was just saying that you believe everything that happens to be told to us by the media.
Where as i quite happily take it with a pinch of salt as it usually turns out to be complete bulls**t.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
some is, some isnt.
Ok well the views you post up on here are usually the same claptrap from the media so please do forgive for seeing you in that light.
It's very rare that i read something that doesn't sound like it was provided by the media from you.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
like what? believing 9/11 was NOT an inside job? or that the economy will be just fine? or that the amero is bullshit?
yea, i'm completely brainwashed.
Oh definitely. The entire dialog is so ridiculously catch phrase, and cliche it makes me want to hurl. Bush talks like this all the time. He is some slick operator, and well rehearsed let me tell you.
When someone tell lies for a living, and learns to emotionally detach from the process of disinformation for a "higher cause" they can get really good at it.
I worked for a company that hired new receptionists and personal assistants to the CEO that had to lie all the time on almost every phone call as to the availability, outgoing payments, propaganda etc (it was a publicly traded company). Many quit and couldn't handle it. The ones that stayed got really good at making things up. I was pretty high up in the company with the VP's, CFO, and CEO and in their personal lives. I was privy to some pretty disturbing information, as I setup and oversaw all their information systems (across 3 countries) and had full access to everything. I saw some pretty serious shit.
I also did consulting work with a CA associate of mine, he's the VP now of some international industrial lighting company based in the UK. This guy could lie to you all day long...I've never seen anything like it in my life. He could spin anything and be 100% convincing at it....and effortlessly.
Yeah so anyway, I know what people are capable of doing...and at the world leader level I basically know what to already expect.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
People are rarely aware of the power of assocation in order to emotionally ready someone to accept what they don't want. For example: referring North America to a neighbourhood! Right away they have already psychologically deleted the borders in a way that in our psyches, we completely accept it! And further--they have made it sound all nice and friendly! All we need to do is pop Mr. Rogers into the neighbourhood! And of course, the same sentence, as well as the speech in general, is litered with words like democracy, so we can be "assured" our basic rights are respected....why, we need not even question things.........................
In a few years, they need only keep replaying these key associations they have already implanted in our willing psyches, and why, we practically add the vibe of Mr. Rogers ourselves to their proposals, given the emotional appeal we've associated with "neighbourhood" our whole lives. Why, a North American Union seems so....cozy and close-knit!
This is the same principle behind the pharmaceutical ads that must tell of he horrific side effects of their advertised meds: ie: bloating, cramping, projectile vomiting, sudden diahorrea....they know we don't really even hear the words, or care about them, when they are playing happy emotional scenes in the background that entice our inner emotionally hungering child. We'll be happy to chance projectile vomiting if we can associate ourselves with happy, loving family images. They address our personal unconscious agendas, and we're willing to completely overlook theirs.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
There's loads of psychologists and a variety of analysts that work in the govt, media, and advertising that routinely brainstorm and conduct social engineering attacks on the public all the time. Actually, it's a pretty constant message.
Anyone that studies the media or advertising methods can point it out quickly and see it. Actually it usually the fist observation and connection people make. Some other people well....they are usually informed about it under much protest and disbelief (which essentially to be expected).
It's an extremely slippery slope, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, which is how I know those that mock out of in disbelief, and fail to realistically consider the ramifications of what is happening right now, are essentially out of touch, or do not know enough to form a valid conclusion on the issue.
Anyhow that's my take on it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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I appreciate the motto "absolute power corrupts absolutely" and am disspointed that Canada does not have a political party wanting to lessen the power, role and size of government.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Actually I bounce questions off the NDP because they seem to be the least "pro govt" of the three but hey like you said I'm not kidding myself about them either
We have a party similar to Ron Paul, or Dennis Kucinich called the Canadian Action Party. They too are heavily suppressed and excluded from participating due to their points of view, so hardly anyone knows about them. However I doubt many would vote for them.
Here they are talking about the NAU
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1355300745194023737
I'm undecided. I didn't vote last election. I didn't like any of the choices.
http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/home.html
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15233
Most of the stuff on here seems to be attributed to the author of the above articles:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=North_American_Union
Someone on here was saying vote for Ron Paul, I believe. Well, here you go:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52684
And finally,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Union although I'm sure we all read the Wikipedia editing thread....
And those are the supporters.
Now for the naysayers!
1) http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003713518_rumor19.html
2) http://www.alternet.org/audits/54184/
3) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/13/AR2007071300553.html
At least this guy has fun with it:
http://paulitics.wordpress.com/2007/08/08/conspiracy-theories-a-north-american-union-and-other-bs/
edit: it looks as though it is going to be hard to get some serious evidence either way, as the information sources are polluted...