The US govt is trying to tank the economy on purpose

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited August 2007 in A Moving Train
So they can introduce the Amero and form the North American Union.

"When the U.S. currency collapses, it will take with it, both the Canadian dollar and Mexican Peso because both countries are so heavily invested in the U.S. dollar through trade with the US.

During such a collapse, when hundreds of millions of average citizens face absolute destitution because their currencies have been wiped out, these Conspirators will turn to 'The People" of each nation and say "your only hope is to merge all three countries and make a new start." "

This NAU deal is not some myth folks...it's coming. It's here. Notice the date on the coins?

http://halturnershow.com/20AmeroCoin.jpg
http://halturnershow.com/100AmeroCoin.jpg
http://halturnershow.com/PureSilver100AmeroCoin.jpg

newspaper article:
http://www.sfu.ca/~grubel/images/FP%209.8.02%20amero%20time0017.JPG

Google Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • If you have the time...kind of a cheesy show, but the content is very informative:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxzs46Nxohk&mode=related&search=
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    What about the beaver and the blue nose? I don't want a fucking bald eagle on my coin.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    What about the beaver and the blue nose? I don't want a fucking bald eagle on my coin.


    I don't think anyone's going like much of anything Bush is planning...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • In an interview with CNBC, a vice president for a prominent London investment firm yesterday urged a move away from the dollar to the "amero," a coming North American currency, he said, that "will have a big impact on everybody's life, in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico."

    Steve Previs, a vice president at Jefferies International Ltd., explained the Amero "is the proposed new currency for the North American Community which is being developed right now between Canada, the U.S. and Mexico."

    The aim, he said, according to a transcript provided by CNBC to WND, is to make a "borderless community, much like the European Union, with the U.S. dollar, the Canadian dollar and the Mexican peso being replaced by the amero."

    Previs told the television audience many Canadians are "upset" about the amero. Most Americans outside of Texas largely are unaware of the amero or the plans to integrate North America, Previs observed, claiming many are just "putting their head in the sand" over the plans.

    http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53124
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • drivingrldrivingrl Posts: 1,448
    How's about a credible source?
    drivingrl: "Will I ever get to meet Gwen Stefani?"
    kevinbeetle: "Yes. When her career washes up and her and Gavin move to Galveston, you will meet her at Hot Topic shopping for a Japanese cheerleader outfit.

    Next!"
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,616
    I Amouro the Amero!
  • drivingrl wrote:
    How's about a credible source?

    I've also had the leaders of two political parties in Canada confirm what I am saying.

    The official site:
    http://www.spp.gov/
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I Amouro the Amero!

    That person that actually says that should be slapped into consciousness.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,616
    That person that actually says that should be slapped into consciousness.

    or perhaps the person who believes the news about the Amero needs an even bigger slap!

    Lets make a wager; if the Amero happens, I will give you 100 crisp one Amero bills, and if it doesn't happen, you give me 100 crisp $1 bills.

    Deal?
  • JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    or perhaps the person who believes the news about the Amero needs an even bigger slap!

    Lets make a wager; if the Amero happens, I will give you 100 crisp one Amero bills, and if it doesn't happen, you give me 100 crisp $1 bills.

    Deal?

    It's not some conspiracy BS if that's what you think.

    The NAU/SPP/Amero deal is reality.

    Welcome to reality here in 2007. How bout I buy you a cup of coffee for you to drink?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • HartydogHartydog Posts: 2,060
    The amount of conspiracy theories on the Moving Train board is amazing.
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  • The contents of two PDF files sent to me by Jack Layton leader of the NDP party addressing the NAU/SPP deal. I must have imagined all this....riiiight...


    July 27, 2007
    The Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P.
    Prime Minister of Canada
    Langevin Block, 80 Wellington Street
    Ottawa, ON K1A 0A2
    Dear Prime Minister,
    I am writing to express grave concern over actions by your government that have lead to the cancellation of a workshop scheduled for August 19 in Papineauville, Quebec on the subject of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.
    This event, organized by the Council of Canadians, was an educational forum for citizens to engage in dialogue. Undue pressure by the RCMP, the Surete du Quebec, and the US Army led to the refusal by the Municipality of Papineauville to rent its community centre to the Council for this event. This represents an abuse of government power and a profound disrespect for the Charter right to freedom of assembly.
    The Municipality of Papineauville is about six kilometres from Montebello and this peaceful event would have posed no threat whatsoever to the meetings taking place in Montebello. Your government’s decision to implement a security perimeter 25km around the Montebello summit is a disappointing attempt at silencing public debate on an issue where your government has failed to be transparent.
    I urge you to reconsider your Government’s decision.

    Yours truly,
    Jack Layton MP (Toronto-Danforth)
    Leader, New Democratic


    Q-2282 — May 30, 2007 — Mr. Julian (Burnaby—New Westminster)
    — With respect to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP): (a) when did unofficial negotiations on the SPP agenda begin prior to March 2005 and which Ministers, Deputy Ministers, and government departments were involved; (b) which Ministers, Deputy Ministers, and branches of which departments are tasked with developing and implementing strategies to advance the SPP agenda; (c) how often do meetings transpire between Ministers or Deputy Ministers and members of the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), what were the dates and locations of these meetings, who was present at each one of these meetings and what were the topics of discussion at each meeting; (d) what financial resources are estimated to be required to adequately fulfill the SPP on an annual basis; (e) how much money has the government committed to the SPP in the last five years; (f) were these funding announcements made public, and, if so, on what dates were these funding announcements made; (g) of these funds, what amount has actually been disbursed annually, and from which government department budget were these funds disbursed; (h) how many person-hours in government departments are dedicated to advancing the agenda of the SPP, working groups included; (i) has an intranet system been establish to facilitate day-to-day communications between participating countries and the NACC; (j) what is the relationship between NAFTA and the SPP; (k) is the SPP considered an extension of NAFTA; (l) have NAFTA committees been folded into the SPP groups and, if so, why and how; (m) what is the most up-to-date impact assessment of SPP negotiations on Canadian regulations and standards in (i) health, (ii) food, food products and food safety, (iii) transport safety, (iv) privacy, (v) energy, (vi) water, (vii) natural resources, (viii) chemical products, including pesticides and herbicides, (ix) financial services and monetary policy, (x) border security, (xi) outsourcing and jobs, (xii) the environment, (xiii) electronic trade, (xiv) the process of building up and maintaining Canada’s no-fly list; (n) what is the status of these negotiations, have some been suspended, and if some have been completed, what regulations were changed as a result; (o) how would those negotiations affect Canada’s public policy space; (p) are any mutual recognition agreements being negotiated under the SPP; (q) what are all the SPP working groups, their focus, the members of these working groups (including members of the government and civil service), and the minutes of their meetings; (r) is it the position of the government that the SPP is beneficial to Canadian sovereignty; (s) what plans does the government have to conduct a public debate of the SPP process, including public consultations with civil society groups, a full legislative review, and a vote in Parliament; and (t) what plans does the government have to brief Parliamentarians on the SPP, if not, why not, and, if so, how regular will such briefings be?
    Q-2282 — 30 mai 2007 — M. Julian (Burnaby— New Westminster)
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Hartydog wrote:
    The amount of conspiracy theories on the Moving Train board is amazing.

    Watch, read, and learn...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • HartydogHartydog Posts: 2,060
    In 5 years when the dollar is still being used in the US I think you'll feel differently. And the government has very little to do with the turmoil that is going on in the economy at the moment.
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    Mansfield, MA 6-30-08, 6-28-08, 7-2-03, 7-3-03, 7-11-03, 8-29-00, 8-30-00, 9-15-98, 9-16-98
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    The way this administration works this and more is to come, I could never put it past em. They have to leave office with a bang either through lost wars or trampling the US economy so they can profit in the end.

    I hear The Bush family is buying 100,000 acre in Paraguay. Didn't some of Hitler's SS offocer's head to South America when all hell broke loose in Germany?

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Boston MABoston MA Posts: 207
    Hartydog wrote:
    In 5 years when the dollar is still being used in the US I think you'll feel differently. And the government has very little to do with the turmoil that is going on in the economy at the moment.
    The dollar may be used but you'll need $100+ for a value meal at McDonalds.

    No shit a private corporation called the federal reserve owns them. The only way to save the US is to lower interest rates, if they do that the dollar will eventually collapse and inflation will go through the roof. It's a great place to be having to use worthless paper money not backed by anything and a private banking corporation controlling it all. Great deal we got.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,616
    It's not some conspiracy BS if that's what you think.

    The NAU/SPP/Amero deal is reality.

    Welcome to reality here in 2007. How bout I buy you a cup of coffee for you to drink?

    Sure, but I live in the real world, so driving here from conspiracyville may take you some time.
  • MLC2006MLC2006 Posts: 861
    there's been a lot that RolandTD20k has said over time that I don't agree with, but I don't see this as some kind of made up fantasy or conspiracy. over the years, it has been proposed (at different times) to merge Mexico and Canada with the US. then you have NAFTA. then you have up to 20 million Mexicans already living in the US illegally and the government doing nothing to try to even slow it down. and you already basically have no border. I believe this was already proposed 3 or 4 years ago, but I'm not sure if it was called the North American Union or what. but if you don't believe this is an agenda that's being pushed for, I think you're pretty blind.

    now, what would be the benefits and cons of this? population wise, Canada is about a third the size of Mexico, and Mexico is about a third the size of the US. Canadian and Mexico money already trades lower the US money and US money is lower than the Euro. so what exactly would it benefit?
  • JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Sure, but I live in the real world, so driving here from conspiracyville may take you some time.

    Sorry, but you don't have a clue. You need to educate yourself on the matter.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • MLC2006 wrote:
    there's been a lot that RolandTD20k has said over time that I don't agree with, but I don't see this as some kind of made up fantasy or conspiracy. over the years, it has been proposed (at different times) to merge Mexico and Canada with the US. then you have NAFTA. then you have up to 20 million Mexicans already living in the US illegally and the government doing nothing to try to even slow it down. and you already basically have no border. I believe this was already proposed 3 or 4 years ago, but I'm not sure if it was called the North American Union or what. but if you don't believe this is an agenda that's being pushed for, I think you're pretty blind.

    now, what would be the benefits and cons of this? population wise, Canada is about a third the size of Mexico, and Mexico is about a third the size of the US. Canadian and Mexico money already trades lower the US money and US money is lower than the Euro. so what exactly would it benefit?

    It will stomp out the middle class. It benefits the already wealthy.

    It's happening right now...it's reality. I even provided the official govt web page ffs... I was also told to go to this site when I emailed Stehpen Harper, the prime minister of Canada. I'll post that email in here as well..

    here it is:

    On behalf of the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, I would like to acknowledge receipt of your e-mail regarding the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP).

    The agreement provides a framework for Canada, the U.S. and Mexico to advance collaboration in areas as diverse as security, transportation, the environment and public health. You can learn more about the SPP by visiting http://www.spp-psp.gc.ca.

    I trust that this information will be of some assistance to you.

    Thank you for writing to the Prime Minister.


    M. Bredeson
    Executive Correspondence Officer
    for the Prime Minister's Office
    Agent de correspondance
    de la haute direction pour le Cabinet du Premier ministre


    yeah...conspiracy.... :rolleyes:
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    So they can introduce the Amero and form the North American Union.

    "When the U.S. currency collapses, it will take with it, both the Canadian dollar and Mexican Peso because both countries are so heavily invested in the U.S. dollar through trade with the US.

    During such a collapse, when hundreds of millions of average citizens face absolute destitution because their currencies have been wiped out, these Conspirators will turn to 'The People" of each nation and say "your only hope is to merge all three countries and make a new start." "

    This NAU deal is not some myth folks...it's coming. It's here. Notice the date on the coins?

    http://halturnershow.com/20AmeroCoin.jpg
    http://halturnershow.com/100AmeroCoin.jpg
    http://halturnershow.com/PureSilver100AmeroCoin.jpg

    newspaper article:
    http://www.sfu.ca/~grubel/images/FP%209.8.02%20amero%20time0017.JPG

    Google Vid:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

    did you ever take a step back and say..."man...i may be nuts"
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • did you ever take a step back and say..."man...i may be nuts"

    Not in this case...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Not in this case...


    good...because i question myself on this kind of stuff all the time...as long as you're confident in your info :)
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    did you ever take a step back and say..."man...i may be nuts"

    :D givin roland a lil taste of his own medicine.
  • good...because i question myself on this kind of stuff all the time...as long as you're confident in your info :)

    Well my Prime Minister confirmed the program's existence, and Jack Layton Leader of the NDP in Canada personally replied to an email I sent to him where he included two PDF attachments. One of them was him criticizing Stephen Harper how the whole thin is being covered up.

    That's good enough for me to realize it's 100% real.

    Whether the US economy will go bust is personal hypothesis, but how else are they going to force it if necessary? If they get resistance you can bet the US economy will tank, and the union will form with a new currency.

    One way or the other. They are doing it. That's fact.

    The media is hiding it away despite that fact it's been several years in the making.

    The SPP/NAU plan's existence is not really up for debate. It's as real as it gets.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    :D givin roland a lil taste of his own medicine.

    What medicine would that be? You do seem to troll posts a lot with one liners when your reality gets shifted.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    What medicine would that be? You do seem to troll posts a lot with one liners when your reality gets shifted.

    are you kidding me? you do it all the time. you are the #1 zinger on this board. its cool though, I dig it.

    sorry I'm not sold on the amero yet. to be honest, I laughed my ass off when I read the first 2 sentences of your thread. I guess we'll just wait and see huh? AMERO is coming!!
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    secondly, who cares if north america switches to this? american economy is strong enough to back any currency.

    o wait, bush is tanking us on purpose. I got it. damn that man.
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