are you kidding me? you do it all the time. you are the #1 zinger on this board. its cool though, I dig it.
sorry I'm not sold on the amero yet. to be honest, I laughed my ass off when I read the first 2 sentences of your thread. I guess we'll just wait and see huh? AMERO is coming!!
When you combine the infrastructure for 3 countries you have to do something about the banking system. It combines as well. what do you think happens to the currency?
Does the European Union and the Euro ring any bells?
I'm amazed at what people criticize on this board.
It must be an American experience.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
politicians are supported by big business. big business wants cheap labor. millions of people providing cheap labor are pouring into the US every year. and despite the current state of security issues throughout the world and in the US, the US government is doing nothing to stop or slow this down. if you say anything against illegal immigration, they say "you're racist, you don't like Hispanics". well, this is NOT a race issue, this is PROOF that the government is willing to stomp out the middle class to appease big business. on one hand, the government is saying "we have to fight terrorism" and on the other hand they're saying "the border's open, come on in, we don't give a fuck that we can't track you or know who the hell you are". that doesn't seem suspicious to you?
and if you haven't seen evidence that the economy is starting a downward spiral, you haven't been reading or watching any news in the past weeks and months.
as for this NAU (it has had different names over the years), I HAVE read quotes from Canadian and US politicians and ambassadors on this, so it's NOT something that Roland made up out of the clear blue. though what I read from the US ambassador to Canada said he didn't think a common currency would be used. but if the dollar tanks, which the Canadian and Mexican currency is so closely tied to, I would imagine a common currency is one of the first things they'd consider.
I'd like to know who you are that the PM of canada emails you personally. I mean I have an open line to all of congress and the President so I guess it would be normal for you to speak to the PM
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I'd like to know who you are that the PM of canada emails you personally. I mean I have an open line to all of congress and the President so I guess it would be normal for you to speak to the PM
I think it's because I asked an extremely obscure question about a subject that essentially nobody is aware of, and of immense importance in tight political circles, so I rose to the top of the queue and got personalized attention. Most likely because no one at the bottom levels knew how to respond, or even what I was talking about.
That's my hypothesis anyways...
edit: It Wasn't the PM of Canada if you go back and read what was there.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
What is uniduely Roland about the thread is the end of the world, fear-mongering tone to it. Take a look at Europe, their world has not ended with the European Union.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Lets each put $10,000 in a trust account, and if the Amero happens, you will be the beneficiary of the trust, but if it doesn't, I get the $20,000.
Put your money where your mouth is, my friend.
Can't you add anything here except for some macho bs?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
What is uniduely Roland about the thread is the end of the world, fear-mongering tone to it. Take a look at Europe, their world has not ended with the European Union.
That's entirely in your perception. I never really expect you agree with anything I say regardless of whether it makes sense to you or not.
If you like the idea state why, instead of citing my character in a negative light. I can do the same bs to you right back...I'm no slouch at it....so fun... so constructive.
If you want the NAU/SPP say why you think it's good for North America.
Did you hear about it here first or something? and you're taking stabs at me for informing you about it?
Hey...thanks man...no really.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Maybe this is real....there is a new chain of gas stations called "Valero", and, get this, it's a Mexican company.
"We accept the Amero at Valero".
Their name was created for the sake of the Rhyming scheme!
I can't wait to wear an Amero Sombrero!
lol @ idiotto!
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
What is uniduely Roland about the thread is the end of the world, fear-mongering tone to it. Take a look at Europe, their world has not ended with the European Union.
Name one EU country that is as poor as Mexico. There isn't one. If you are fine with unlicensed Mexican truckers on US roads outsourcing US jobs, then by all means support this NAU. That's the goal. Cheaper labor, more control, rich get richer and the US middle class disappears.
secondly, who cares if north america switches to this? american economy is strong enough to back any currency.
o wait, bush is tanking us on purpose. I got it. damn that man.
Hate to break the news to you but the US economy is not strong enough to cover the US dollar or the debt it entails. The entitlement money (from SS and medicare) has been spent, so in order to cover the people that need to be covered is going to make a Big Mac cost a $100 in the near future. Are you aware that the US dollar is at an all time low. Lost 50% of it's value against other debt based (also worthless) currencies. Which means you and I have lost 50% of our buying power in less that three years. And this is just the beginning. More dollars, more debt, more inflation. Americans will lose their healthcare, savings, safety net in the near future. That's reality. The US dollar as king is over. The debt and printing of US dollars around the clock is here.
I am far from macho....you are convinced one way, and I the other, so I am giving you a chance to take $10,0000 from me.
If you are so sure, why not accept the proposition?
What more do you want me to add?.....this is not a factual debate!
Why don't you just stop pissing in this thread then...k thanks.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
secondly, who cares if north america switches to this? american economy is strong enough to back any currency.
Where to start. Hmm ...
Who cares if North America switches to this?
Well ... by your innocuous 'North America' you are partly reffering to the soverign constitutional republic known as The United States of America, which does have its own formal constitution. I know, it's "just a goddamn piece of paper" ... we've all been brainwashed in to thinking it is an outdated document that need not necessarily apply to the modern world. However may i point you to
The United States Constitution
Article I
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives... Section 8 -
The Congress shall have Power... To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
We don't even need to get in to the OTHER constitutional issues raised by the idea of creating some supranational entity entitled The North American Union that has its own goddamn currency.
By the way, just for shits and giggles, this is what Thomas Jefferson had to say about the creation of the FIRST National Bank (precursor to the Federal Reserve, which ALSO is unconstitutional) -
"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground--that all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states, or to the people (12th amend.). To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition.
The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill, have not, in my opinion, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution."
-Thomas Jefferson
[The] american economy is strong enough to back any currency.
Have you looked at our national debt recently?
Maybe the american MILITARY (or weapons stockpile) is strong enough to back any currency, but the actual numbers on our books are looking pretty bad...The Real National Debt by John Rubino
!
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Ignorance, defiance, and self perceived intelligence...bad combination.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Given no opposition, the current US govt will melt down, and amalgamate, all of north America's borders, and internal infrastructure from A-Z, and combine it's currency into one singular currency under one form of ultimate government rule.
It will either be done in the name of terrorism, or a cataclysmic event such as an induced economic collapse.
At present, it's happening, and it will continue to happen, if people choose to remain asleep about this very serious issue.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Who cares if North America switches to this?
Well ... by your innocuous 'North America' you are partly reffering to the soverign constitutional republic known as The United States of America, which does have its own formal constitution. I know, it's "just a goddamn piece of paper" ... we've all been brainwashed in to thinking it is an outdated document that need not necessarily apply to the modern world. However may i point you to
The United States Constitution
Article I
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives... Section 8 -
The Congress shall have Power... To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
We don't even need to get in to the OTHER constitutional issues raised by the idea of creating some supranational entity entitled The North American Union that has its own goddamn currency.
By the way, just for shits and giggles, this is what Thomas Jefferson had to say about the creation of the FIRST National Bank (precursor to the Federal Reserve, which ALSO is unconstitutional) -
"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground--that all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states, or to the people (12th amend.). To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition.
The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill, have not, in my opinion, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution."
-Thomas Jefferson
Oh, and ...
Have you looked at our national debt recently?
Maybe the american MILITARY (or weapons stockpile) is strong enough to back any currency, but the actual numbers on our books are looking pretty bad...The Real National Debt by John Rubino
Given no opposition, the current US govt will melt down, and amalgamate, all of north America's borders, and internal infrastructure from A-Z, and combine it's currency into one singular currency under one form of ultimate government rule.
It will either be done in the name of terrorism, or a cataclysmic event such as an induced economic collapse.
At present, it's happening, and it will continue to happen, if people choose to remain asleep about this very serious issue.
you are driftin need to help build each others bunkers. start planting your seeds for some rice...maybe some wheat. the end of civilization is near.
It's all part of the new world order, one where there is a world goverment.
There is no paranoia. It's just happening.
I guess we will see soon if the stock markets crash and if the amerio comes in.
I wouldn't write it off though jlew.
I'm not saying it will happen for sure just that it could well happen, so don't be too quick to dismiss it.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Amero is not going to happen in any of our lifetimes. mark my words. you are the rest of the looney toon crew can call me out if I'm wrong k ?
here is some advice. just because it is on the internet, doesn't automatically make it true.
Your not very open to a different way of thinking are you jlew.
People have linked to goverment websites on here and i believe theres news items from you tube too.
That to me says it's not just some conspircy theory.
Now when or if it happens is another matter. But i won't pretend it's not true.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Your not very open to a different way of thinking are you jlew.
People have linked to goverment websites on here and i believe theres news items from you tube too.
That to me says it's not just some conspircy theory.
Now when or if it happens is another matter. But i won't pretend it's not true.
While I wouldn't entirely say it is impossible, why does it seem that no one ever believes what the government tells them unless it is in support of a conspiracy, or conspiracy theory?
While I wouldn't entirely say it is impossible, why does it seem that no one ever believes what the government tells them unless it is in support of a conspiracy, or conspiracy theory?
Well i cannot speak for other people, but myself i have spent alot of time learning how goverments work by reading books not internet websites, and indeed know a few people who have worked close to that field enough to know that what you are told is not always the truth, there is always some spin and manipulation going on.
How is the Amero a conspircy theory though?
If we had all been about before the Euro came into being would people have called that conspircy theory too?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Well i cannot speak for other people, but myself i have spent alot of time learning how goverments work by reading books not internet websites, and indeed know a few people who have worked close to that field enough to know that what you are told is not always the truth, there is always some spin and manipulation going on.
How is the Amero a conspircy theory though?
If we had all been about before the Euro came into being would people have called that conspircy theory too?
I didn't mean it definitely was a conspiracy theory - that's why I said a conspiracy (meaning the governments are trying to do it) or a conspiracy theory (meaning they aren't but we think they are).
In your post you used the internet websites given out by the gov't and youtube as sources of the NAU existence, or did I misunderstand this?
I work for a european company, and I discuss the EU from time to time with different Europeans in my office. The overwhelming concenses is that they do no approve of the EU. They were lied to and told it was nothing more then a trade agreement.....now they are in the process of creating a government that will rule over Europe.....far different from what was originally said. When governments expand, the peoples voice gets smaller and it is much more difficult to protest and get results. Sovereinty is being lost.
This is the same thing happening in North America, and it's only to benifit the extremely wealthy. They are following 1984 like it's a play book. Divide the world into three powers, and use terrorism to keep people afraid. What a joke of a world we live in.
I work for a european company, and I discuss the EU from time to time with different Europeans in my office. The overwhelming concenses is that they do no approve of the EU. They were lied to and told it was nothing more then a trade agreement.....now they are in the process of creating a government that will rule over Europe.....far different from what was originally said. When governments expand, the peoples voice gets smaller and it is much more difficult to protest and get results. Sovereinty is being lost.
This is the same thing happening in North America, and it's only to benifit the extremely wealthy. They are following 1984 like it's a play book. Divide the world into three powers, and use terrorism to keep people afraid. What a joke of a world we live in.
why dont you do something about it then.
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When you combine the infrastructure for 3 countries you have to do something about the banking system. It combines as well. what do you think happens to the currency?
Does the European Union and the Euro ring any bells?
I'm amazed at what people criticize on this board.
It must be an American experience.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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and if you haven't seen evidence that the economy is starting a downward spiral, you haven't been reading or watching any news in the past weeks and months.
as for this NAU (it has had different names over the years), I HAVE read quotes from Canadian and US politicians and ambassadors on this, so it's NOT something that Roland made up out of the clear blue. though what I read from the US ambassador to Canada said he didn't think a common currency would be used. but if the dollar tanks, which the Canadian and Mexican currency is so closely tied to, I would imagine a common currency is one of the first things they'd consider.
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I think it's because I asked an extremely obscure question about a subject that essentially nobody is aware of, and of immense importance in tight political circles, so I rose to the top of the queue and got personalized attention. Most likely because no one at the bottom levels knew how to respond, or even what I was talking about.
That's my hypothesis anyways...
edit: It Wasn't the PM of Canada if you go back and read what was there.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Lets each put $10,000 in a trust account, and if the Amero happens, you will be the beneficiary of the trust, but if it doesn't, I get the $20,000.
Put your money where your mouth is, my friend.
Can't you add anything here except for some macho bs?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
That's entirely in your perception. I never really expect you agree with anything I say regardless of whether it makes sense to you or not.
If you like the idea state why, instead of citing my character in a negative light. I can do the same bs to you right back...I'm no slouch at it....so fun... so constructive.
If you want the NAU/SPP say why you think it's good for North America.
Did you hear about it here first or something? and you're taking stabs at me for informing you about it?
Hey...thanks man...no really.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
"We accept the Amero at Valero".
Their name was created for the sake of the Rhyming scheme!
I can't wait to wear an Amero Sombrero!
lol @ idiotto!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
http://www.mikecann.net/2009/02/best-smoking-song-poll.html
Vote on Our Best Smoking Poll with Pearl Jam song!
I am far from macho....you are convinced one way, and I the other, so I am giving you a chance to take $10,0000 from me.
If you are so sure, why not accept the proposition?
What more do you want me to add?.....this is not a factual debate!
Hate to break the news to you but the US economy is not strong enough to cover the US dollar or the debt it entails. The entitlement money (from SS and medicare) has been spent, so in order to cover the people that need to be covered is going to make a Big Mac cost a $100 in the near future. Are you aware that the US dollar is at an all time low. Lost 50% of it's value against other debt based (also worthless) currencies. Which means you and I have lost 50% of our buying power in less that three years. And this is just the beginning. More dollars, more debt, more inflation. Americans will lose their healthcare, savings, safety net in the near future. That's reality. The US dollar as king is over. The debt and printing of US dollars around the clock is here.
http://www.mikecann.net/2009/02/best-smoking-song-poll.html
Vote on Our Best Smoking Poll with Pearl Jam song!
Why don't you just stop pissing in this thread then...k thanks.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Well ... how about Lou Dobbs waxing Orwellian about the NAU and a 'brave new world' ?
scared yet?
Here is some more of the main stream media trying to downplay The NAU with a special guest spot by alleged loonie and 44th tier presidential canditate Ron Paul, and then, oh ... more crazy talk from Lou Dobbs.
Ok?
and here is the Steve Previs interview from CNBC that Roland was quoting
Now.
As for you, JLew, my little pretty ...
Where to start. Hmm ...
Who cares if North America switches to this?
Well ... by your innocuous 'North America' you are partly reffering to the soverign constitutional republic known as The United States of America, which does have its own formal constitution. I know, it's "just a goddamn piece of paper" ... we've all been brainwashed in to thinking it is an outdated document that need not necessarily apply to the modern world. However may i point you to
The United States Constitution
Article I
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives...
Section 8 -
The Congress shall have Power... To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
We don't even need to get in to the OTHER constitutional issues raised by the idea of creating some supranational entity entitled The North American Union that has its own goddamn currency.
By the way, just for shits and giggles, this is what Thomas Jefferson had to say about the creation of the FIRST National Bank (precursor to the Federal Reserve, which ALSO is unconstitutional) -
"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground--that all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states, or to the people (12th amend.). To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition.
The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill, have not, in my opinion, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution."
-Thomas Jefferson
Oh, and ...
Have you looked at our national debt recently?
Maybe the american MILITARY (or weapons stockpile) is strong enough to back any currency, but the actual numbers on our books are looking pretty bad...The Real National Debt by John Rubino
!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Ignorance, defiance, and self perceived intelligence...bad combination.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Aug 17th, 2007...
Given no opposition, the current US govt will melt down, and amalgamate, all of north America's borders, and internal infrastructure from A-Z, and combine it's currency into one singular currency under one form of ultimate government rule.
It will either be done in the name of terrorism, or a cataclysmic event such as an induced economic collapse.
At present, it's happening, and it will continue to happen, if people choose to remain asleep about this very serious issue.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
you are driftin need to help build each others bunkers. start planting your seeds for some rice...maybe some wheat. the end of civilization is near.
im so impressed how ahead of the game you are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia
It's all part of the new world order, one where there is a world goverment.
There is no paranoia. It's just happening.
I guess we will see soon if the stock markets crash and if the amerio comes in.
I wouldn't write it off though jlew.
I'm not saying it will happen for sure just that it could well happen, so don't be too quick to dismiss it.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I was just thinking along those lines when I checked out the coins.
ok ready, here goes.
Aug 17th, 2007
Amero is not going to happen in any of our lifetimes. mark my words. you are the rest of the looney toon crew can call me out if I'm wrong k ?
here is some advice. just because it is on the internet, doesn't automatically make it true.
Your not very open to a different way of thinking are you jlew.
People have linked to goverment websites on here and i believe theres news items from you tube too.
That to me says it's not just some conspircy theory.
Now when or if it happens is another matter. But i won't pretend it's not true.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I admit, discussions have taken place. after all, it really is on the internet.
people are takin bets. I'm betting it wont happen.
While I wouldn't entirely say it is impossible, why does it seem that no one ever believes what the government tells them unless it is in support of a conspiracy, or conspiracy theory?
Well i cannot speak for other people, but myself i have spent alot of time learning how goverments work by reading books not internet websites, and indeed know a few people who have worked close to that field enough to know that what you are told is not always the truth, there is always some spin and manipulation going on.
How is the Amero a conspircy theory though?
If we had all been about before the Euro came into being would people have called that conspircy theory too?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I didn't mean it definitely was a conspiracy theory - that's why I said a conspiracy (meaning the governments are trying to do it) or a conspiracy theory (meaning they aren't but we think they are).
In your post you used the internet websites given out by the gov't and youtube as sources of the NAU existence, or did I misunderstand this?
This is the same thing happening in North America, and it's only to benifit the extremely wealthy. They are following 1984 like it's a play book. Divide the world into three powers, and use terrorism to keep people afraid. What a joke of a world we live in.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)