See, that's the beauty of the burden. I don't have to prove they're wrong. They have to prove they're right.
Or you could do it the easier way. Film yourself saying that anyone who believes in these outlandish claims is a lunatic. Then post it on youtube, link to the video here and you have irrefutable proof. You could even go a step further and create a wikipedia page about it. It's always good to have multiple sources.
Well all I see are repetitive and pithy jerk off comments that 10 year old could make, so I highly doubt the "Oh I'm the top of the game big world talker.."
Or you could do it the easier way. Film yourself saying that anyone who believes in these outlandish claims is a lunatic. Then post it on youtube, link to the video here and you have irrefutable proof. You could even go a step further and create a wikipedia page about it. It's always good to have multiple sources.
Do you realize this union stuff is happening outside of the political scope? It is happening on the outside of "Canada" technically agreeing. Therefore it is happening outside any democratic process.
But it's not. The Three Amigos meetings taking place are in the current news and making front page of Canada.com. Harper, our elected Prime Minister is at these meetings. How much more deomcratic do we need to get? When Roland emailed Harper there was no hiding agendas by the government. They pointed him to the website with public information. When Harper signs anything it is the end result of a very democratic process. For better or worse the democratic process we've signed up for gives leaders near unlimited power for short periods of time. Harper's working within the rules and as I see it that makes it as democratic as Canada can get.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Well all I see are repetitive and pithy jerk off comments that 10 year old could make, so I highly doubt the "Oh I'm the top of the game big world talker.."
No offense, but gmab...what utter bullshit.
Not sure if you were being funny or not. But if you weren't;
"topic integrity please...thanks.This site has PM"
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Why has all this loss of sovereign countries not happened in the EU? England is still England, France has not gone away, even the smaller countries have maintained their uniqueness.
You've mentioned that EU was the first experiment fo rthis 50 years ago. Yet they don't get embroiled in the ongoing wars in the middle east. I wonder why you think they can stay out but Canada would not be able to. I think you do a disservice to just about everyone by seemingly acting as if we are Jews happily going to the gas chambers. I get the impression that you think if someone does not react to the news in the same manner as you that they either uneducated on the subject, don't care or are stupid. Sorry but I find that insulting.
The NAU is inevitable. It's the UN on a more limited scope. NATO for trade purposes. Yes, it will mean change but I don't see the change as near perpetual war. A world with less borders is a good thing.
Europe isn't physically attached to the US, which happens to be the country that is radically changing the world at the moment.
Physical separation by land mass accounts for a lot more than you think.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Not sure if you were being funny or not. But if you weren't;
"topic integrity please...thanks.This site has PM"
Pardon me? I am the one being attacked here this is my thread in case you didn't realize.
Feel free to start your own and say whatever.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
If you could actually say something of importance related to this thread please.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Jlew why are you just being a jackass? It's pretty sad man I hope the admins here delete the crap you guys are just barfing up like pretend scholars.
Did you miss the first post? How short is your memory span?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
But it's not. The Three Amigos meetings taking place are in the current news and making front page of Canada.com. Harper, our elected Prime Minister is at these meetings. How much more deomcratic do we need to get? When Roland emailed Harper there was no hiding agendas by the government. They pointed him to the website with public information. When Harper signs anything it is the end result of a very democratic process. For better or worse the democratic process we've signed up for gives leaders near unlimited power for short periods of time. Harper's working within the rules and as I see it that makes it as democratic as Canada can get.
When Harper signs his bank loan it's Canada being democratic?
This is the key point here: They are walking fine lines and are not accountable for the actions they are making, to their countries at this point. That is why they can deny everything. They are just "talking" and "cooperating". This is the point about how they have the foot in the door, and they have people either generally entirely ignorant to what is happening or, they have them docile-like completely going along for the ride.
When Roland emailed, the agendas may be out in the open, however, they are still not committed in any way that they can be held to account yet. And by the time it moves into the realm of being countries committing, we will be so there alongside them, because we've psychologically acquiesced all along. It's the old bait and switch. Like how Sadam got switched in place of Osama Bin Laden. No one seemed to really notice how that happened--we decided to accept that terrorists were interchangeable, even though it makes no sense whatsover. This is the power of psychological ploys. by the time our government needs our consent, we'll be there ready to hand it to them. Unless we pay attention to what their agendas are as well, and thereby see the big picture.
So, again, do you prefer actions taken on behalf of your country to be part of a democratic process?
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Pardon me? I am the one being attacked here this is my thread in case you didn't realize.
Feel free to start your own and say whatever.
I am not attacking you. I'm asking questions because you see the effect the NAU as something all together different than me. Maybe your take is right, but in order for me to assess this I have to ask questions to get more information.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
fine... prove, in one paragraph or less, that the "North American Union" is real and not just the figment of a delusional imagination.
I guess you don't read anything at all except the title of the thread before you start sarcastically commenting on it. shame.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I asked how I can help protest since I cant make it to seattle.
ps. this is a message board. you are king of trolling and cracking jokes at people. chill the fuck out. booo wooo for this being your thread.
Hey Jlew why don't you start a serious discussion that really matters so I can act like a shit in it...
It would really give me the shits and giggles...
sometimes things in life get serious son...sorry to be the one
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I guess you don't read anything at all except the title of the thread before you start sarcastically commenting on it. shame.
all I've seen are a bunch of links and posts from conspiracy-theory oriented websites. None of which are credible or backed up with concrete proof. And the coin was already debunked.
"If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
—Dorothy Parker
But it's not. The Three Amigos meetings taking place are in the current news and making front page of Canada.com. Harper, our elected Prime Minister is at these meetings. How much more deomcratic do we need to get? When Roland emailed Harper there was no hiding agendas by the government. They pointed him to the website with public information. When Harper signs anything it is the end result of a very democratic process. For better or worse the democratic process we've signed up for gives leaders near unlimited power for short periods of time. Harper's working within the rules and as I see it that makes it as democratic as Canada can get.
Yeah but where's the media? I was informed strictly out of legal obligation to the public. There are changes being proposed will that affect hundreds of millions of people. You would think it would sell a few newspapers, or cause listeners to tune in.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I've asked you twice now how I can protest since I cant go to seattle.
I didn't believe you were genuine, and for good reason (and I still don't), so I didn't bother replying.
All you had to do was check the link that I posted, if you were at all interested, and you would know because it was all there if you took the time.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
all I've seen are a bunch of links and posts from conspiracy-theory oriented websites. None of which are credible or backed up with concrete proof. And the coin was already debunked.
Then you missed everything past the first post. How is it my fault you aren't following the thread?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Yeah but where's the media? I was informed strictly out of legal obligation to the public. There are changes being proposed will that affect hundreds of millions of people. You would think it would sell a few newspapers, or a cause listeners to tune in.
Canada.com is reporting on it on their front page.
Canada.com is as mainstream as you can get. It's out there, people are either indifferent or just don't care.
Yes, NOW is exactly when it's getting out. The video I posted where the three leaders met was I believe March, two years ago. Paul Martin was involved! All this time, our mainstream awareness is completely unaware. Why, when it affects us all, so intrinsically??
You have been not-so-subtly implying this is about my personal agenda. I am perfectly willing to see this fall as it may. As long as people are aware and know it's happening. I trust how it'll go then. However, when it's secretive, and covert, and operating outside our ability to even debate, prepare, adjust or exercise our voice on this, no matter what our views are, that's not okay.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I don't know if everyone caught it, but if you really want to understand the intricacies of what the NAU entails,listen to Connie Fogal talk about it. Try to keep a relatively open mind, she really gets into he guts of how it affects us all on a per citizen/democratic basis.
I believe Ahnimus posted it several months ago (credit where it's due).
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Canada.com is as mainstream as you can get. It's out there, people are either indifferent or just don't care.
Thanks for this.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
the EU is a large success so far... there is dissent, but still overall it is working well
?
Ask yourself if Europe right now would be willing to fall under US government mandate and scrutiny.
I think you'd be lucky to escape the room without a few scratches.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Ask yourself if Europe right now would be willing to fall under US government mandate and scrutiny.
I think you'd be lucky to escape the room without a few scratches.
not sure what your saying there?
honestly, i am not sure what to make of it all, right now... but... it does appear the planet is shifting, for various reasons, to more "union" style trade and organization. mostly fueld by technology and communication technology IMO. i am not sure if i have a problem with this. i like the idea of the european union in some ways. i am not a big fan of an all seeing all being govt, but i do like cooperation and fair trading between nations. the EU has helped Europe become a world superpower, mostly through trading and economics. while at the same time providing social services and a safety net for its people (imagine that).
i think the NAU has become a priority for the western elite because of the emergence of the EU as an economic superpower. perhaps THE economic superpower.
honestly, i am not sure what to make of it all, right now... but... it does appear the planet is shifting, for various reasons, to more "union" style trade and organization. mostly fueld by technology and communication technology IMO. i am not sure if i have a problem with this. i like the idea of the european union in some ways. i am not a big fan of an all seeing all being govt, but i do like cooperation and fair trading between nations. the EU has helped Europe become a world superpower, mostly through trading and economics. while at the same time providing social services and a safety net for its people (imagine that).
i think the NAU has become a priority for the western elite because of the emergence of the EU as an economic superpower. perhaps THE economic superpower.
The US is going to impose it's laws and policies on Canada and Mexico. Not the other way around. It might just start with trade, but it will expand over time to become one single country in every aspect of the word. They essentially openly admit to this already and that it will include combining military infrastructure, so right there that turns me off. The Iraq war was a farce. US foreign policy is oppressive.
Someone tell me Bush is really just a f-in awesome face value guy, and maybe I'll reconsider. Same with my PM. I don't trust him for one second. People in Canada call Harper a Bush puppet. Same deal for Mexico's puppet.
Right now it's sheer idiocy to even think about doing this. Let alone be subject to three shady politicians trying and fool an entire continent into swallowing some secret back room deal.
This should have been out in the open in the public eye from day one!
Right there it tells you what kind of situation we have going on.
Also, I like my currency, and my country's banking system, and the value of my dollar, exactly the way it is.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Or you could do it the easier way. Film yourself saying that anyone who believes in these outlandish claims is a lunatic. Then post it on youtube, link to the video here and you have irrefutable proof. You could even go a step further and create a wikipedia page about it. It's always good to have multiple sources.
"Quad Ruby", National Forensics League
http://www.nflonline.org/
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
"topic integrity please...thanks.This site has PM"
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Europe isn't physically attached to the US, which happens to be the country that is radically changing the world at the moment.
Physical separation by land mass accounts for a lot more than you think.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
(")_(")
Pardon me? I am the one being attacked here this is my thread in case you didn't realize.
Feel free to start your own and say whatever.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
If you could actually say something of importance related to this thread please.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
(")_(")
http://www.therogers5.com/Image/Rogers%20Family/04-13-2002/Chloe%20Crying.JPG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy
Jlew why are you just being a jackass? It's pretty sad man I hope the admins here delete the crap you guys are just barfing up like pretend scholars.
Did you miss the first post? How short is your memory span?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I asked how I can help protest since I cant make it to seattle.
ps. this is a message board. you are king of trolling and cracking jokes at people. chill the fuck out. booo wooo for this being your thread.
When Harper signs his bank loan it's Canada being democratic?
This is the key point here: They are walking fine lines and are not accountable for the actions they are making, to their countries at this point. That is why they can deny everything. They are just "talking" and "cooperating". This is the point about how they have the foot in the door, and they have people either generally entirely ignorant to what is happening or, they have them docile-like completely going along for the ride.
When Roland emailed, the agendas may be out in the open, however, they are still not committed in any way that they can be held to account yet. And by the time it moves into the realm of being countries committing, we will be so there alongside them, because we've psychologically acquiesced all along. It's the old bait and switch. Like how Sadam got switched in place of Osama Bin Laden. No one seemed to really notice how that happened--we decided to accept that terrorists were interchangeable, even though it makes no sense whatsover. This is the power of psychological ploys. by the time our government needs our consent, we'll be there ready to hand it to them. Unless we pay attention to what their agendas are as well, and thereby see the big picture.
So, again, do you prefer actions taken on behalf of your country to be part of a democratic process?
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
fine... prove, in one paragraph or less, that the "North American Union" is real and not just the figment of a delusional imagination.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a meeting of the Flat Earth Society to attend.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I guess you don't read anything at all except the title of the thread before you start sarcastically commenting on it. shame.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Hey Jlew why don't you start a serious discussion that really matters so I can act like a shit in it...
It would really give me the shits and giggles...
sometimes things in life get serious son...sorry to be the one
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
all I've seen are a bunch of links and posts from conspiracy-theory oriented websites. None of which are credible or backed up with concrete proof. And the coin was already debunked.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
I've asked you twice now how I can protest since I cant go to seattle.
Yeah but where's the media? I was informed strictly out of legal obligation to the public. There are changes being proposed will that affect hundreds of millions of people. You would think it would sell a few newspapers, or cause listeners to tune in.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I didn't believe you were genuine, and for good reason (and I still don't), so I didn't bother replying.
All you had to do was check the link that I posted, if you were at all interested, and you would know because it was all there if you took the time.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Then you missed everything past the first post. How is it my fault you aren't following the thread?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
http://www.canada.com/
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics/story.html?id=6754e78c-237e-482c-9ff3-076273a72cbc&k=99590
Yesterday (August 16, 2007) as one of the top four headline stories was Dcueppe slamming the "secretive" meetings
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics/story.html?id=62ebe319-5e2c-4750-9a47-c0be2ce3e765&k=54425
They also ran a story called Montebello Alert! yesterday (August 16, 2007)
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=ad6d5403-a4c5-4523-a51f-acb48ce48617&k=49211
Canada.com is as mainstream as you can get. It's out there, people are either indifferent or just don't care.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
You have been not-so-subtly implying this is about my personal agenda. I am perfectly willing to see this fall as it may. As long as people are aware and know it's happening. I trust how it'll go then. However, when it's secretive, and covert, and operating outside our ability to even debate, prepare, adjust or exercise our voice on this, no matter what our views are, that's not okay.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1355300745194023737
I believe Ahnimus posted it several months ago (credit where it's due).
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Thanks for this.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
the EU is a large success so far... there is dissent, but still overall it is working well
?
Ask yourself if Europe right now would be willing to fall under US government mandate and scrutiny.
I think you'd be lucky to escape the room without a few scratches.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
not sure what your saying there?
honestly, i am not sure what to make of it all, right now... but... it does appear the planet is shifting, for various reasons, to more "union" style trade and organization. mostly fueld by technology and communication technology IMO. i am not sure if i have a problem with this. i like the idea of the european union in some ways. i am not a big fan of an all seeing all being govt, but i do like cooperation and fair trading between nations. the EU has helped Europe become a world superpower, mostly through trading and economics. while at the same time providing social services and a safety net for its people (imagine that).
i think the NAU has become a priority for the western elite because of the emergence of the EU as an economic superpower. perhaps THE economic superpower.
The US is going to impose it's laws and policies on Canada and Mexico. Not the other way around. It might just start with trade, but it will expand over time to become one single country in every aspect of the word. They essentially openly admit to this already and that it will include combining military infrastructure, so right there that turns me off. The Iraq war was a farce. US foreign policy is oppressive.
Someone tell me Bush is really just a f-in awesome face value guy, and maybe I'll reconsider. Same with my PM. I don't trust him for one second. People in Canada call Harper a Bush puppet. Same deal for Mexico's puppet.
Right now it's sheer idiocy to even think about doing this. Let alone be subject to three shady politicians trying and fool an entire continent into swallowing some secret back room deal.
This should have been out in the open in the public eye from day one!
Right there it tells you what kind of situation we have going on.
Also, I like my currency, and my country's banking system, and the value of my dollar, exactly the way it is.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")