North American Union Protests coming up in the next few days

gue_barium

godpt3 wrote:

gah!!!! New World Order!!!!! Run Away!!!!!

I just wonder if you guys even remotely understand the issues you're protesting against.

I understand where you're coming from, but it would be nice if you could elaborate on where the attitude is coming from. What do you know that these people don't?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Murder is ok...terrorism is all real.... "they hate us for our freedom"

oh yeah and false flag is all just BS...

right...

back to your plates of hay sheeples...nothing to see here.

godpt3

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Murder is ok...terrorism is all real.... "they hate us for our freedom"

Murder is NOT OK... Terrorism is real... and they hate us because we have a culture that believes "our god is better than your god" and because "Allah" says so.

Any other questions...

godpt3

gue_barium wrote:

I understand where you're coming from, but it would be nice if you could elaborate on where the attitude is coming from. What do you know that these people don't?

Because there are serious issues to be discussed and the lunatic fringe on both the left and the right aren't doing themselves any favors by acting like such dicks. It's hard to take Chicken Little seriously when he doesn't have a telescope to prove that the sky is, indeed, falling.


If the crazy people would stop being crazy for one moment, and learn to articulate their positions in a rational manner, we might actually get something accomplished.

gue_barium

godpt3 wrote:

Because there are serious issues to be discussed and the lunatic fringe on both the left and the right aren't doing themselves any favors by acting like such dicks. It's hard to take Chicken Little seriously when he doesn't have a telescope to prove that the sky is, indeed, falling.


If the crazy people would stop being crazy for one moment, and learn to articulate their positions in a rational manner, we might actually get something accomplished.

So...
what's your rational argument?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

godpt3 wrote:

Murder is NOT OK... Terrorism is real... and they hate us because we have a culture that believes "our god is better than your god" and because "Allah" says so.

Any other questions...

And more towards the heart of the matter....false flag operations?

I mean why don't you just say you want to wipe out Muslims and don't give a crap what it takes already.

sigh...

godpt3

gue_barium wrote:

So...
what's your rational argument?

that we DO need to be concerned about further opening the borders, not because of some wild-eyed NWO conspiracy, but because of legitimate safety concerns. They're building a massive transportation line going all the way from Mexico to Canada, travelling along U.S. highways in many cases. Unfortunately, Mexican safety regulations aren't up to par with even American standards.



*some people are scared, because it's all they know how to do*

godpt3

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I mean why don't you just say you want to wipe out Muslims and don't give a crap what it takes already.

Sounds like a plan to me. Start with the muslims, and then move on to the Christians. Eradicate this "god" virus once and for all.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

godpt3 wrote:

Sounds like a plan to me. Start with the muslims, and then move on to the Christians. Eradicate this "god" virus once and for all.

Actually that's pretty damn funny, now that you put it like that.

I hate to say it, but you have a point there, and I can see what you're saying.

I suddenly just got a vision about 1000 years from now looking into the worlds history books and reading about what's happening now with regards to mankind's different era's on the evolutionary time line.

Interesting perspective. I'd hate to lose my country over it though.

Looking at it from that point of view, it's inevitable.

gue_barium

godpt3 wrote:

that we DO need to be concerned about further opening the borders, not because of some wild-eyed NWO conspiracy, but because of legitimate safety concerns. They're building a massive transportation line going all the way from Mexico to Canada, travelling along U.S. highways in many cases. Unfortunately, Mexican safety regulations aren't up to par with even American standards.

That reminds of that line from the Cable Guy. please don't go bungee jumping in Mexico...they just don't have the regulations.

godpt3 wrote:

*some people are scared, because it's all they know how to do*

How ironic.

angelica

surferdude wrote:

I'm much more with you than you think. When I see the size and bloated power we've given government it's because we've gladly given over power and responsibility. With every social program we've given over power and responsibility.

From my point of view if you really were for the empowerment of people you'd be chanting for an abolishment of every social program there is. Either you're not doing this or I'm hearing you wrong. But once you want to keep even one social program you are no longer for the empowerment of people. The insistance of social programs comes at the price of individual empowerent and that's the catch-22. When we as a people demanded government do what was and should still be individual responsibility we handed over individual empowerment. You cannot be empowered while relying on government for health care, retirement or jobs.

You are talking about how my view fits in your agenda.

I'm talking about my view/agenda.

I know there's no turning back the social programs, that's reality. So we are stuck with government that continues to grow in power and not necessarily corruption but having it's own agenda. Government that does not dilineate between for the benefit of the government from for the benefit of the people.

There is corruption where we have human beings operating. I'm looking at empowerment, strategy and minimization of fallout through observation, awareness and understanding.

surferdude

angelica wrote:

There is corruption where we have human beings operating. I'm looking at empowerment, strategy and minimization of fallout through observation, awareness and understanding.

But what do you do about the people who just don't care? From your post I believe you said you want to act "for the benefit of the people". But is this how you really want to act when "for the benefit of the people" may not be in Angelica's best interests? If so, why do popose you can work aroung this conundrum while those in power can't?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I think it can be done better, in a more peaceful fashion.

Maybe I'm just some crazy "old world" hopeless romantic and there's no hope left for us now but to wipe out entire races of people one way or the other to survive.

In order for us to be here the Native Americans had to be cleansed and beaten down into submission. Now we need oil so we cleanse and beat down where we have to go to find it.

I was hoping to get more out of mankind and evolution. I was expecting a kinder gentler world without all the death and suffering.

angelica

surferdude wrote:

But is this how you really want to act when "for the benefit of the people" may not be in Angelica's best interests?

You see what you want to see, surferdude. Your conflict remains your own.

surferdude

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Maybe I'm just some crazy "old world" hopeless romantic and there's no hope left for us now but to wipe out entire races of people one way or the other to survive.

How is NAU going to lead to the wiping out of entire races of people? I can follow and appreciate your concern over the implementation of the NAU but I fail to see how it leads to the wiping out of entire races of people.

surferdude

angelica wrote:

Your conflict remains your own.

But I'm not conflicted at the moment. So I think you are seeing conflict where there is none. What would Freud say about that?

angelica

surferdude wrote:

But I'm not conflicted at the moment.

Great. Problem solved, then.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

surferdude wrote:

How is NAU going to lead to the wiping out of entire races of people? I can follow and appreciate your concern over the implementation of the NAU but I fail to see how it leads to the wiping out of entire races of people.

The NAU spreads the just recently shredded American constitution, patriot acts 1,2 and everything else in the name of any and all "opposition" I mean terrorism.

First off it obliterates 2 countries and everything they have stood for, and ever were, up until this point. All the laws, rights to privacy and everything the countries were before from an operational perspective, will now be gone. So it homogenizes the entire continent under one form of singularity or rule. It's a death blow to cultural diversity and uniqueness in North America. It will progress truly into a singular entity over time. You have to look about 10-20 years down the road past it's inception. And they want their hooks into the banks let me tell you. Obviously....it's the first thing on the list at all the meetings I can guarantee it.

Make no mistake Canada, US, and Mexico will be ghosts of the past as time goes on if this goes through. Follow any takeover of any business. I've weathered 2 of them. First they say they aren't going to change anything. Next thing you know they got you upside down chanting their daily mantra's after all the previous heads have been chopped off and have rolled away into memory This is how it works.

War the in middle east will remain persistent and cleansing. Breaking the will of those peoples to protect their own land. The occupation is only creating conflict. Those in power know it (obviously)...and choose to disregard it. People cry: "It's only creating more terrorism" they reply: "no it's not...we need more troops...more war....hoo-ha" *thumps chest*

There are invisible people to hunt down and to kill now, and new ones are born all the time.

All forms of resistance is now terrorism. The supreme power has "reactions" to "react" against and eliminate from existence in an endless cycle until one is exterminated and the victor remains.

Much blood will be shed. Cheney has gone on public record to say the wars to fight in the middle east will go on for a long....long time long after our lifetimes.

It makes perfect sense what they are doing once you understand it. Eliminate the opposition at all costs both home and abroad. Spy on people, no fair trials, anyone can be the enemy, with us or against us, if you're deemed a terrorist, they can even torture a confession out of you, the list goes on and on...and on...the stripping away citizens rights....all new laws enacted in the past few years since 9/11 to clamp down on everything. False flag...look the other way..incompetent...whatever you want to call it. There was a grain of purpose and intent not pure naivety.

Yet so many are not alarmed, because they want to feel "safe". Safe from what? If we spent a fraction of the time promoting peace in the media instead promoting fear and hate all of this wouldn't be necessary. How much oil could 500 billion buy?

The heart of it is really there in my signature.

choose the pill: peace v.s. war....ying v.s. yang.... love v.s. hate

Since the dawn of time.. it's decision we all have to make.

godpt3

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The NAU spreads the just recently shredded American constitution, patriot acts 1,2 and everything else in the name of any and all "opposition" I mean terrorism.

First off it obliterates 2 countries and everything they have stood for, and ever were, up until this point. All the laws, rights to privacy and everything the countries were before from an operational perspective, will now be gone. So it homogenizes the entire continent under one form of singularity or rule. It's a death blow to cultural diversity and uniqueness in North America. It will progress truly into a singular entity over time. You have to look about 10-20 years down the road past it's inception. And they want their hooks into the banks let me tell you. Obviously....it's the first thing on the list at all the meetings I can guarantee it.

you know, I keep expecting you to spontaneously burst into flames while running away screaming.

angelica

godpt3 wrote:

you know, I keep expecting you to spontaneously burst into flames while running away screaming.

Each time you resort to an insult, you reveal to us that you do not have an intelligent argument.