maybe the type of person you need to plant wmd's is not the type of person you want to have wmds.
That's quite possible. Who do you trust in a game where everyone is corrupt and in it for themselves?
Blackmail opportunities abound I'm sure. I suppose unless Bush, Cheney, or Rice etc.. personally strap on the boots and ski masks and tip toe in the night it can be seen as a loss of control of the situation.
Here.....you go plant the murder weapon. No way...you go plant it. Well who's going to plant it? fuck...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
That's quite possible. Who do you trust in a game where everyone is corrupt and in it for themselves?
Blackmail opportunities abound I'm sure. I suppose unless Bush, Cheney, or Rice etc.. personally strap on the boots and ski masks and tip toe in the night it can be seen as a loss of control of the situation.
Here.....you go plant the murder weapon. No way...you go plant it. Well who's going to plant it? fuck...
So this administration was smart enough to plan and execute the murder of 3,000 of its own civilians, with the help of a bunch of Islamic fascists sworn to hate us, plan it down to the tiniest detail and keep the whole thing under wraps for seven years ... but too stupid to be able to throw some WMD out in the desert?
Give me a break.
There's an old tenet of science that says, in 99.9 percent of circumstances, the most reasonable explanation is usually the correct one.
In this instance, it's that this group of Islamic terrorists who have been threatening to blow up something on U.S. soil -- and EVEN TRIED TO BLOW UP THE WTC BEFORE 9/11 -- actually did what they said they were going to do. I don't know why you won't believe them. It's weird.
In the WMD instance, the most reasonable explanation is the administration figured, "Hell, Saddam has used WMD before. We even GAVE him some back in the 80s. It's a pretty sure-fire bet we'll turn up something to justify this invasion."
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Why risk planting WMD's? At the beginning of the Iraq war we didn't need the WMD excuse 70+% of the US citizens were for the war.
.
If they had planted WMDs and "found" them, 70 percent of the U.S. citizenry would still be for the war. That's why you risk it. And frankly, what risk? Just call a press conference, say, "Look what we found," payoff the appropriate people to back the story, and voila. It's not really that hard.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
If they had planted WMDs and "found" them, 70 percent of the U.S. citizenry would still be for the war. That's why you risk it. And frankly, what risk? Just call a press conference, say, "Look what we found," payoff the appropriate people to back the story, and voila. It's not really that hard.
I don't see planting a WMD as simple as a cop planting a bag of crack on a street hoodlum.
No one would ask questions where that came from.
You go planting WMD's in Iraq then you open a whole 'nother can o worms.
You couldn't plant Nukes...there would just be way too many questions to have to fabricate for that. Where did they come from??? Who would we point the finger at???
Biological weapons???? Way too dangerous to be hauling those around in a Uhaul van in Iraq. Besides "how did they get there?" would be the question on everyone's lips...so then they would have to sneak in some lab and plant it....
Gas???...we knew Saddam had gas anyway ...so that wouldn't be great enough WMD.
So we would really have to come up with a whole bunch of answers to cover up WMD's....besides if we planted WMD's all of a sudden this scares the shit out of everyone.... how effective would the troops be if actual WMD's were discovered???? Would the common citizenry of the US be so gallant to send their children swashbuckling around in a country with dangerous weapons at hand???
Who knows, there may have actually been WMD's and they didn't tell us about them for fear of fear.
This is why I say if Iran actually had a nuke we wouldn't be so brash about all this talk of invasion. We'd be much nicer to them ala North Korea.
I don't see planting a WMD as simple as a cop planting a bag of crack on a street hoodlum.
No one would ask questions where that came from.
You go planting WMD's in Iraq then you open a whole 'nother can o worms.
You couldn't plant Nukes...there would just be way too many questions to have to fabricate for that. Where did they come from??? Who would we point the finger at???
I think this is how this was put to bed last time it came up. There would have been a demand for international inspection of what was found....they would have either had to have been proven to be Iraqi-made, or stolen from some other country, which would have dragged said country into the fray to defend themselves...way too risky. As was stated, they didn't need to find them to go invade, so why would they bother?
If they had planted WMDs and "found" them, 70 percent of the U.S. citizenry would still be for the war. That's why you risk it. And frankly, what risk? Just call a press conference, say, "Look what we found," payoff the appropriate people to back the story, and voila. It's not really that hard.
You can't payoff governments that hate the USA to NOT disclose SATELLITE PHOTOGRAPHS
ask Bush Sr., Powell, and his cronies how that worked out following the first Gulf War, when Russia released satellite photos proving that no tanks were on the border of Kuwait.
:rolleyes:
Think about it.
Planting WMDs involves a rather large gathering of troops in flat desert.
Not exactly hard to play "spot the US troops" in that situation, when you already know where they "found" them.
You just go back through the satellite imagery of that area, and look.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Also, FYI ... and you can see this for yourself in the movie "Washington, You're Fired",
American WMDs are marked with color coded bars.
Middle eastern WMDs are marked with arabic letters.
That means we would either have to FAKE the writing on arabic WMDs, or buy them creating a potential paper trail, or plant our OWN WMDs, which would then just give the international community another reason to laugh at us ... because we would be in violation of international law by selling those things to Saddam in the first place.
That is why in "Washington, You're Fired" you see US soldiers filming a bunker in Iraq full of US ORIGIN WMDs (filming, AGAINST orders, by the way) RIGHT BEFORE THEY BLOW THE WHOLE THING UP.
Why did they blow it up?
Just like i said,
it would be a HUGE embarrassement to actualy FIND WMDs, but then have the world realize they were OUR WMDs!
How do you respond to that?
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Also, FYI ... and you can see this for yourself in the movie "Washington, You're Fired",
American WMDs are marked with color coded bars.
Middle eastern WMDs are marked with arabic letters.
That means we would either have to FAKE the writing on arabic WMDs, or buy them creating a potential paper trail, or plant our OWN WMDs, which would then just give the international community another reason to laugh at us ... because we would be in violation of international law by selling those things to Saddam in the first place.
That is why in "Washington, You're Fired" you see US soldiers filming a bunker in Iraq full of US ORIGIN WMDs (filming, AGAINST orders, by the way) RIGHT BEFORE THEY BLOW THE WHOLE THING UP.
Why did they blow it up?
Just like i said,
it would be a HUGE embarrassement to actualy FIND WMDs, but then have the world realize they were OUR WMDs!
How do you respond to that?
Level with me, Driftin' ... You're just like The Dude from the Big Lebowski, aren't you?
Also, FYI ... and you can see this for yourself in the movie "Washington, You're Fired",
American WMDs are marked with color coded bars.
Middle eastern WMDs are marked with arabic letters.
That means we would either have to FAKE the writing on arabic WMDs, or buy them creating a potential paper trail, or plant our OWN WMDs, which would then just give the international community another reason to laugh at us ... because we would be in violation of international law by selling those things to Saddam in the first place.
That is why in "Washington, You're Fired" you see US soldiers filming a bunker in Iraq full of US ORIGIN WMDs (filming, AGAINST orders, by the way) RIGHT BEFORE THEY BLOW THE WHOLE THING UP.
Why did they blow it up?
Just like i said,
it would be a HUGE embarrassement to actualy FIND WMDs, but then have the world realize they were OUR WMDs!
How do you respond to that?
We don't have a single person in America who knows how to paint the letters "W," "M" and "D" in Arabic? Jesus, we're more fucked than I thought.
But seriously ... I'm willing to admit that it probably would be difficult to plant W.M.D. in Iraq ... but more difficult than the U.S. government conspiring with Al Qaeda to blow up the WTC towers, hit the Pentagon, kill 3,000 people and keep it all under wraps in the planning, execution and cover-up stages?
Nah, I'm not buying it.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
So this administration was smart enough to plan and execute the murder of 3,000 of its own civilians, with the help of a bunch of Islamic fascists sworn to hate us, plan it down to the tiniest detail and keep the whole thing under wraps for seven years ... but too stupid to be able to throw some WMD out in the desert?
Give me a break.
There's an old tenet of science that says, in 99.9 percent of circumstances, the most reasonable explanation is usually the correct one.
In this instance, it's that this group of Islamic terrorists who have been threatening to blow up something on U.S. soil -- and EVEN TRIED TO BLOW UP THE WTC BEFORE 9/11 -- actually did what they said they were going to do. I don't know why you won't believe them. It's weird.
In the WMD instance, the most reasonable explanation is the administration figured, "Hell, Saddam has used WMD before. We even GAVE him some back in the 80s. It's a pretty sure-fire bet we'll turn up something to justify this invasion."
....eh
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
They would never ever allow 3000 people to be killed and allow 2 buildings to be blown up..never.
It's almost as crazy as saying they would allow 600,000 people to be murdered and allow hundreds upon hundreds of buildings to be blown up in Iraq..
It's all so different.
The people in Iraq deserved it....because everything thus far has been the truth.
uh-huh.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I think that's Rolandspeak for "Aw, fuck, he got me!".
lost lovers found...
touching.
pass the lube
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
So this administration was smart enough to plan and execute the murder of 3,000 of its own civilians, with the help of a bunch of Islamic fascists sworn to hate us, plan it down to the tiniest detail and keep the whole thing under wraps for seven years ... but too stupid to be able to throw some WMD out in the desert?
Give me a break.
There's an old tenet of science that says, in 99.9 percent of circumstances, the most reasonable explanation is usually the correct one.
In this instance, it's that this group of Islamic terrorists who have been threatening to blow up something on U.S. soil -- and EVEN TRIED TO BLOW UP THE WTC BEFORE 9/11 -- actually did what they said they were going to do. I don't know why you won't believe them. It's weird.
In the WMD instance, the most reasonable explanation is the administration figured, "Hell, Saddam has used WMD before. We even GAVE him some back in the 80s. It's a pretty sure-fire bet we'll turn up something to justify this invasion."
Actually they did try to use the old WMD's as an excuse remember how over 50% of dumb fucked people still thought they found WMD's in Iraq like years later?
Do you remember that? I'm thinking no.
First of all who is going to make them, and who is going to analyze them to verify their authenticity? Third parties are going to want to see them. Everyone is going to want to know every little detail about these holy grail WMD's that were made to destroy good ol the US of A. The Smithsonian will probably want one to put on display somewhere, as a reminder of the noble Iraq war and the total destruction of the USA that was thwarted in the nick of time..... nice pretty pictures....lots of fanfare and investigations, and endless questions and total societal focus on bogus weapons. hmm
I guess they just slap a sticker on them wave a magic wand and say mooga booga? three times and it's all good?
Uh yeah...they can test the strain of pathogen and trace it right back to it's point of origin...ever think of that?
Kinda like how anthrax has already been traced back to it's origin.
kinda a bum deal any way you slice it.
"Here's the murder weapon folks...we found them...take a good look...but not too good....wink wink..."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
If the U.S. government told you the sky was blue, you'd argue, wouldn't you?
Answer honestly.
hmm...what would you say?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Indeed! And if its Roland's lube, we'll know its not poisoned by some shady government official.
Just try not to splash any cum on me...
I don't do the guy thing
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
They would never ever allow 3000 people to be killed and allow 2 buildings to be blown up..never.
It's almost as crazy as saying they would allow 600,000 people to be murdered and allow hundreds upon hundreds of buildings to be blown up in Iraq..
It's all so different.
The people in Iraq deserved it....because everything thus far has been the truth.
uh-huh.
thats not proof. Saying they are capable of doing it isnt a valid basis for arguing that they did do it. Provide proof and a valid explanation for what really happened or admit you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. The burden of proof is on you.
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That's quite possible. Who do you trust in a game where everyone is corrupt and in it for themselves?
Blackmail opportunities abound I'm sure. I suppose unless Bush, Cheney, or Rice etc.. personally strap on the boots and ski masks and tip toe in the night it can be seen as a loss of control of the situation.
Here.....you go plant the murder weapon. No way...you go plant it. Well who's going to plant it? fuck...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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So why not plant WMDs if you're going to lie about them? We could have this circular argument all day.
for the least they could possibly do
It wasn't until the insurgency several months later that the media started asking the appropriate questions.
I'm suspicious of the "official" report of 9/11.
Al Queda? Yeah right....
So this administration was smart enough to plan and execute the murder of 3,000 of its own civilians, with the help of a bunch of Islamic fascists sworn to hate us, plan it down to the tiniest detail and keep the whole thing under wraps for seven years ... but too stupid to be able to throw some WMD out in the desert?
Give me a break.
There's an old tenet of science that says, in 99.9 percent of circumstances, the most reasonable explanation is usually the correct one.
In this instance, it's that this group of Islamic terrorists who have been threatening to blow up something on U.S. soil -- and EVEN TRIED TO BLOW UP THE WTC BEFORE 9/11 -- actually did what they said they were going to do. I don't know why you won't believe them. It's weird.
In the WMD instance, the most reasonable explanation is the administration figured, "Hell, Saddam has used WMD before. We even GAVE him some back in the 80s. It's a pretty sure-fire bet we'll turn up something to justify this invasion."
for the least they could possibly do
If they had planted WMDs and "found" them, 70 percent of the U.S. citizenry would still be for the war. That's why you risk it. And frankly, what risk? Just call a press conference, say, "Look what we found," payoff the appropriate people to back the story, and voila. It's not really that hard.
for the least they could possibly do
Nope im not dismissing you b/c of a label; im basing it based on posts.
I don't see planting a WMD as simple as a cop planting a bag of crack on a street hoodlum.
No one would ask questions where that came from.
You go planting WMD's in Iraq then you open a whole 'nother can o worms.
You couldn't plant Nukes...there would just be way too many questions to have to fabricate for that. Where did they come from??? Who would we point the finger at???
Biological weapons???? Way too dangerous to be hauling those around in a Uhaul van in Iraq. Besides "how did they get there?" would be the question on everyone's lips...so then they would have to sneak in some lab and plant it....
Gas???...we knew Saddam had gas anyway ...so that wouldn't be great enough WMD.
So we would really have to come up with a whole bunch of answers to cover up WMD's....besides if we planted WMD's all of a sudden this scares the shit out of everyone.... how effective would the troops be if actual WMD's were discovered???? Would the common citizenry of the US be so gallant to send their children swashbuckling around in a country with dangerous weapons at hand???
Who knows, there may have actually been WMD's and they didn't tell us about them for fear of fear.
This is why I say if Iran actually had a nuke we wouldn't be so brash about all this talk of invasion. We'd be much nicer to them ala North Korea.
You can't payoff governments that hate the USA to NOT disclose SATELLITE PHOTOGRAPHS
ask Bush Sr., Powell, and his cronies how that worked out following the first Gulf War, when Russia released satellite photos proving that no tanks were on the border of Kuwait.
:rolleyes:
Think about it.
Planting WMDs involves a rather large gathering of troops in flat desert.
Not exactly hard to play "spot the US troops" in that situation, when you already know where they "found" them.
You just go back through the satellite imagery of that area, and look.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
American WMDs are marked with color coded bars.
Middle eastern WMDs are marked with arabic letters.
That means we would either have to FAKE the writing on arabic WMDs, or buy them creating a potential paper trail, or plant our OWN WMDs, which would then just give the international community another reason to laugh at us ... because we would be in violation of international law by selling those things to Saddam in the first place.
That is why in "Washington, You're Fired" you see US soldiers filming a bunker in Iraq full of US ORIGIN WMDs (filming, AGAINST orders, by the way) RIGHT BEFORE THEY BLOW THE WHOLE THING UP.
Why did they blow it up?
Just like i said,
it would be a HUGE embarrassement to actualy FIND WMDs, but then have the world realize they were OUR WMDs!
How do you respond to that?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Level with me, Driftin' ... You're just like The Dude from the Big Lebowski, aren't you?
We don't have a single person in America who knows how to paint the letters "W," "M" and "D" in Arabic? Jesus, we're more fucked than I thought.
But seriously ... I'm willing to admit that it probably would be difficult to plant W.M.D. in Iraq ... but more difficult than the U.S. government conspiring with Al Qaeda to blow up the WTC towers, hit the Pentagon, kill 3,000 people and keep it all under wraps in the planning, execution and cover-up stages?
Nah, I'm not buying it.
for the least they could possibly do
I've said it before, and i'll say it again:
This unchecked agression will not stand!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
....eh
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Internet jackassery ... same as you.
for the least they could possibly do
....eh
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I think that's Rolandspeak for "Aw, fuck, he got me!".
a small victory is still a victory.
for the least they could possibly do
can i join this circle jerk, too?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
i don't know where you've been ...
for the least they could possibly do
It's almost as crazy as saying they would allow 600,000 people to be murdered and allow hundreds upon hundreds of buildings to be blown up in Iraq..
It's all so different.
The people in Iraq deserved it....because everything thus far has been the truth.
uh-huh.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
lost lovers found...
touching.
pass the lube
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Awesome ... Now's it officially a circle ... Um, a triangle. Anyone else want in? There's pump cheese!!!!
If the U.S. government told you the sky was blue, you'd argue, wouldn't you?
Answer honestly.
for the least they could possibly do
Indeed! And if its Roland's lube, we'll know its not poisoned by some shady government official.
Actually they did try to use the old WMD's as an excuse remember how over 50% of dumb fucked people still thought they found WMD's in Iraq like years later?
Do you remember that? I'm thinking no.
First of all who is going to make them, and who is going to analyze them to verify their authenticity? Third parties are going to want to see them. Everyone is going to want to know every little detail about these holy grail WMD's that were made to destroy good ol the US of A. The Smithsonian will probably want one to put on display somewhere, as a reminder of the noble Iraq war and the total destruction of the USA that was thwarted in the nick of time..... nice pretty pictures....lots of fanfare and investigations, and endless questions and total societal focus on bogus weapons. hmm
I guess they just slap a sticker on them wave a magic wand and say mooga booga? three times and it's all good?
Uh yeah...they can test the strain of pathogen and trace it right back to it's point of origin...ever think of that?
Kinda like how anthrax has already been traced back to it's origin.
kinda a bum deal any way you slice it.
"Here's the murder weapon folks...we found them...take a good look...but not too good....wink wink..."
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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hmm...what would you say?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Just try not to splash any cum on me...
I don't do the guy thing
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
thats not proof. Saying they are capable of doing it isnt a valid basis for arguing that they did do it. Provide proof and a valid explanation for what really happened or admit you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. The burden of proof is on you.