Why can't politically conservative people write good music?

3inputchick

Because they are too busy fixing all the libs mistakes!

DEAL WITH IT

down_ski

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

FUCKING BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

You stole my line!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

It's just the way it is....

godpt3

Kenny Olav wrote:

blues traveler (well, john popper... don't know about the rest of the band) is libertarian, not conservative. there's a significant difference between the two.

well, at least that would explain why he got busted on gun and drug charges awhile back. IIRC, he had enough weaponry to overthrow a small third world country.

godpt3

_outlaw wrote:

I think in the Ramones- Johnny was "conservative" and Joey was "liberal."

I think Joey wrote The KKK Took My Baby Away because Johnny stole his girl. And Bonzo Goes to Bitburgh had "(My Brain is Hangin' Upside Down" added to the title because Johnny didn't like how the song portrayed Reagan. You see, there was an old movie called "Bedtime for Bonzo" starring, you guessed it... Ronald Reagan. Bonzo, the chimp, had better acting chops than Ronnie.

godpt3

MLC2006 wrote:

Cash sang many songs for the common man, which is what a ton of old country singers have done, when there actually was REAL country music. but I don't know whatever gave you the idea that he was a liberal. or anti-establishment.

JC was without a doubt, a very religious and spiritual man. But to call him "conservative" is quite a stretch. Conservatives only talk the talk. Johnny walked the walk.

godpt3

sweetpotato wrote:

This might explain it:

[size=+2]"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people... it is true that most stupid people are conservative."[/size]

~John Stuart Mill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stuart_Mill

I like this one better:

"Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from a liberal, who wishes to replace them with others."
--Ambrose Bierce

godpt3

Cropduster84 wrote:

Radiohead
Beatles
Bob Dylan
Nirvana

I don't know about any of the guys from radiohead or Mr. Zimmerman, but I do know that half the Beatles and Kurt were all left-handed. And studies have shown that left-handed people also tend to be more creative.


Of course, Son of Sam and Jack the Ripper were also left-handed, so take it for what it's worth.

godpt3

MLC2006 wrote:

a quote from a guy that's been dead 130 years, pretty relevant. most of the high school dropouts in this country vote democrat.

"My country right or wrong" is like saying, "My mother drunk or sober."
-- G.K. Chesterton

godpt3

MLC2006 wrote:

Nirvana was about as non-political as a rock band could be. I don't know that I've ever heard any of the 3 members say anything whatsoever about politics.

Kurt was somewhat vocal about politics, and Krist is about as political as they get rockstar-wise. You know, what with the whole forming his own PAC and running for Lt. Governor.

MLC2006

godpt3 wrote:

Of course, Son of Sam and Jack the Ripper were also left-handed, so take it for what it's worth.

just a note fwiw, Jack the Ripper was never identified. but it's fairly accepted that the victims were killed by a right-handed person. I've read much on that whole subject.

MLC2006

godpt3 wrote:

Kurt was somewhat vocal about politics, and Krist is about as political as they get rockstar-wise. You know, what with the whole forming his own PAC and running for Lt. Governor.

has Noveselic done anything musical in the past decade? as for Kurt, I've never heard him say anything close to being political, got a link?



as for this whole thread, I think a more accurate statement would be that drug addicts and/or people from broken homes write the best music. now, if you were to conclude that drug addicts and/or people from broken homes are more likely to be liberals, then maybe there's a point. but I imagine it has more to do with upbringing and environment than it does with political leanings.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

underwear too tight...

it's hard to be creative with your balls in a nit.

catefrances

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

underwear too tight...

it's hard to be creative with your balls in a nit.

wasnt aware cons had balls. thats why i thought they were conservative. too secure within the bosom of society to challenge.

jeffbr

godpt3 wrote:

Kurt was somewhat vocal about politics, and Krist is about as political as they get rockstar-wise. You know, what with the whole forming his own PAC and running for Lt. Governor.

Yeah, not sure about Kurt vocalizing his views, but Krist definitely did. I was at a few Nirvana shows and he wasn't shy. And post-Nirvana he has been very active. His biggest issue locally was all-ages rock shows. Seattle has/had strange laws about all-ages shows, and Krist's PAC was very instrumental influencing policy change. Never really had a shot at Lt. Gov.

weenie

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

That shows you didn't go to school. Read The Long Revolution by the late Marxist cultural theorist and literary critic Professor Raymond Williams, and you will discover the link between political liberalism and the medieval concept of the liberal arts in the provincial guilds of England. However, I expect you won't bother. Thank you for your time.

You make me laugh. Do you think every major requires reading on Marxist cultural theory? Do you think every "school" has curriculum that includes required reading of Raymond Williams?

You have succeeded in giving credibility to some of the descriptions of a liberal posted on this thread.

By the way, are you referring to pre-school, elementary school, middle school, high school, undergraduate school, graduate school or post graduate school?

robbie

It is the same reason why so many pro athletes are republican/conservative....think back to high school, the creative kids, the outcasts... those are your rock stars/actors.... your jocks who beat up the creative kids... those are your meat head Conservatives. you would assume the rock stars/actors would be republican because they are wealthy and republicans certainly look out for the wealthy, but they also seem to have a conscious and an empathy for human suffering, and tend to be appalled by social injustice in spite of the tax cuts they could receive from republican government. pro athletes were and always have been meat head jocks who thrive on "might makes right" philosophy. they just see the world in different ways. "Andrew Clark" grows up conservative taping hairy kids ass cheeks together ..."Allison Reynolds" grows up liberal. sorry for the breakfast club reference.. but you get the gist.

FinsburyParkCarrots

weenie wrote:

You make me laugh. Do you think every major requires reading on Marxist cultural theory? Do you think every "school" has curriculum that includes required reading of Raymond Williams?

You have succeeded in giving credibility to some of the descriptions of a liberal posted on this thread.

By the way, are you referring to pre-school, elementary school, middle school, high school, undergraduate school, graduate school or post graduate school?

Not in the States, for sure, but in Britain, no undergraduate course that deals with critical theory seriously, in the field of arts and humanities and particularly in Literatures in English, can claim credibility without informing some basic knowledge of Marxist notions of art and material production. Literature degrees, undergraduate and higher, inexorably require knowledge of the writings of Raymond Williams and newer methodologies such as cultural materialism. You should know the historical, originative link between liberalism and the liberal arts before even starting to discuss the matter, but if you don't, and if you see someone making a connection you don't understand, you should ask why the connection is being proposed, instead of assuming it is irrelevant and tangential. It's that lack of curiosity and absence of lateral thinking that defines a conservative mindset.

shes a peach

ItsEvolutionBaby74 wrote:

Oingo Boingo!

I am so disillusioned.

weenie

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Not in the States, for sure, but in Britain, no undergraduate course that deals with critical theory seriously, in the field of arts and humanities and particularly in Literatures in English, can claim credibility without informing some basic knowledge of Marxist notions of art and material production. Literature degrees, undergraduate and higher, inexorably require knowledge of the writings of Raymond Williams and newer methodologies such as cultural materialism. You should know the historical, originative link between liberalism and the liberal arts before even starting to discuss the matter, but if you don't, and if you see someone making a connection you don't understand, you should ask why the connection is being proposed, instead of assuming it is irrelevant and tangential. It's that lack of curiosity and absence of lateral thinking that defines a conservative mindset.

Well I don't know about Britain, but the US has a Constitution that guarantees us the right to speak our opinions with or without foreknowledge of a given writer. That's pretty much what this message pit is about as well.

I for one don't appreciate elitists like yourself, whether you're impressing others with your knowledge, or just impressed with yourself, for trying to shoot down the opinions of others when they question the validity of a point you try to make.

That's it for me. I'm pretty much over this thread.