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  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    South of Seattle wrote:
    Well you'd be the one eating 1 million unborn children ;):p

    Meh the world is over populated anyway hence this thread :p;)
  • ForestBrain
    ForestBrain Posts: 460
    hippiemom wrote:
    You didn't answer my question.

    How do you torture something that can't feel anything?
    You do not know if the baby feels pain or not. That has not been proven at all. Why take the chance? I know from much experience that newborns are HIGHLY sensitive to touch. Most science is conjecture and theory. Why don't you go watch some abortion videos?
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    ForestBrain wrote:
    You do not know if the baby feels pain or not. That has not been proven at all. Why take the chance? I know from much experience that newborns are HIGHLY sensitive to touch. Most science is conjecture and theory. Why don't you go watch some abortion videos?

    Do you know what a central nervous system is?
  • ForestBrain
    ForestBrain Posts: 460
    I think I learned about that one in first grade.
    Seems ya'll are lacking the part in the brain that is compassion, though. Go ahead, be ignorant. Enjoy it while it lasts.
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    ForestBrain wrote:
    Most science is conjecture and theory.

    And religion is?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    ForestBrain wrote:
    I think I learned about that one in first grade.
    Seems ya'll are lacking the part in the brain that is compassion, though. Go ahead, be ignorant. Enjoy it while it lasts.

    Well do you understand the purpose of the central nervous system?
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Why are we wrong for having faith in science but you're right for having faith in God. (and a vengeful hateful God, at that!)
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    ForestBrain wrote:
    You do not know if the baby feels pain or not. That has not been proven at all. Why take the chance? I know from much experience that newborns are HIGHLY sensitive to touch. Most science is conjecture and theory. Why don't you go watch some abortion videos?
    Right ... and a newborn is exactly the same as a 10 week-old fetus :rolleyes:

    I give up, this is like arguing with a toddler.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    Ahnimus wrote:
    And religion is?

    Oh religion is real :rolleyes: Not on topic... but I am reading this amazing book called " Under the Banner of Heaven " which is about the Mormon church and its foundation etc. I have never really gotten religion but it just amazes me the shit believe and then DO all in the name of something so abstract :confused:

    Now back to the hamster wheel topic at hand.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    small town beck wrote:
    Oh religion is real :rolleyes: Not on topic... but I am reading this amazing book called " Under the Banner of Heaven " which is about the Mormon church and its foundation etc. I have never really gotten religion but it just amazes me the shit believe and then DO all in the name of something so abstract :confused:

    Now back to the hamster wheel topic at hand.
    I read that book! How far disconnected from reality do you have to be in order to believe some of that shit?! Scary, isn't it?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    small town beck wrote:
    Now back to the hamster wheel topic at hand.

    What??? You mean, you don't think we're going to resolve this argument within the confines of this thread once and for all? :D

    I love the internet. :D
  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    hippiemom wrote:
    I read that book! How far disconnected from reality do you have to be in order to believe some of that shit?! Scary, isn't it?

    So scary, seriously I have NO idea how far out you need to be. When I finish we should have a thread on it because HOLY FUCK, people. Is it just me or did you have troubling following who marries who? :confused::o
  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    What??? You mean, you don't think we're going to resolve this argument within the confines of this thread once and for all? :D

    I love the internet. :D


    Well on the last thread about this I was sure we were almost there :rolleyes: :p

    Ahhh yes the internet attracting the weird and wonderful and the down right looney :) Lucky I am just weird and wonderful :o
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    small town beck wrote:
    So scary, seriously I have NO idea how far out you need to be. When I finish we should have a thread on it because HOLY FUCK, people. Is it just me or did you have troubling following who marries who? :confused::o
    It's impossible to keep track without drawing a diagram.

    I was going to start a thread when I finished it, but it was so damn weird and confusing I couldn't even figure out how to make a thread about it, lol.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    That's some bleeped up shit right there...

    "In Under the Banner of Heaven, he turn his attention to fundamentalist zealots of the Mormon church. Centering his novel around brothers Dan and Ron Lafferty, who murdered Ron's wife and infant daughter, ostensibly under God's orders. Telling the story of their violent and virulent beliefs, Krakauer also ties in Mormon history from Joseph Smith, Jr. and Brigham Young to the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart. The sect of Mormons that still practice polygamy practice a system of feminine abuse, rape, incest, and intermarriage in the belief that they are preparing for the the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord. It's an eye-opening look at the history of polygamy within the Mormon church and the abuse and violence it often engenders. The San Francisco Chronicle says of Under the Banner of Heaven, "His new work is a fantastic read, right up there with In Cold Blood and The Executioner's Song in its depiction of that strange American blend of piety, violence and longing for the End Times."
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  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    hippiemom wrote:
    It's impossible to keep track without drawing a diagram.

    I was going to start a thread when I finished it, but it was so damn weird and confusing I couldn't even figure out how to make a thread about it, lol.

    They must have quite the family trees :eek: sadly it is probably only about three branches.

    Good point how do you even explain it because while reading it I keep going WTF??? :confused: . It is fascinating though. I had NO idea they were so ... homogenized? and holy misogyny :eek:

    Makes me think I could go out and start my own religion tomorrow. :p
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    small town beck wrote:
    Makes me think I could go out and start my own religion tomorrow. :p

    well let's face it, how difficult could it possibly be. L. Ron Hubbard did it. :D
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  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    catefrances wrote:
    well let's face it, how difficult could it possibly be. L. Ron Hubbard did it. :D

    OMG!!! too funny!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    small town beck wrote:
    Oh religion is real :rolleyes: Not on topic... but I am reading this amazing book called " Under the Banner of Heaven " which is about the Mormon church and its foundation etc. I have never really gotten religion but it just amazes me the shit believe and then DO all in the name of something so abstract :confused:

    Now back to the hamster wheel topic at hand.

    Religion is a tool.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    catefrances wrote:
    well let's face it, how difficult could it possibly be. L. Ron Hubbard did it. :D

    To be honest, Scientology is easier to believe than the Christian faith. I'd even be more inclined to go with Hinduism or Buddhism. Out of all the faiths the Judea-Christian faiths are the most eccentric. IMO.

    It makes everything black or white.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire

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