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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    ForestBrain wrote:
    Stupid was for the ones who have abortions. I have utmost respect for women that take responsibility for their actions. The Bible says God hates those that shed innocent blood. And I can't think of blood any more innocent than an unborn child's. (that was in reference to those who say I'm being judgmental). I would be judgmental if I said a person was for sure going to hell, but if I see somebody actually sinning, and tell them they are, that is in no way judging them. As the Bible says, ye shall know them by their fruit.
    Yeah, it does take two people. The guy who got the woman pregnant should help take care of the kid. But, we live in a crappy world, and that doesn't always happen. Which is why it's a lot smarter to wait until you're married. But, of course, people have no self control, and don't think it's at all wrong to sleep around.

    but see here's the thing. how do you know i've only been pregnant 4 times?
    so that would make me stupid for both giving birth to 4 children and aborting. in all instances i would have been taking responsibilty for my actions and those my partner.

    funnily enough i never fell pregnant while 'sleeping around'. it was always when i was in a stable monogamous relationship.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    ForestBrain wrote:
    I am a woman. And I am a virgin. I won't do it until I'm married. I'm 22.

    You also believe in a God and you believe God has something to say about abortion. Well, that's entirely a belief.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    ForestBrain wrote:
    Stupid was for the ones who have abortions. I have utmost respect for women that take responsibility for their actions. The Bible says God hates those that shed innocent blood. And I can't think of blood any more innocent than an unborn child's. (that was in reference to those who say I'm being judgmental). I would be judgmental if I said a person was for sure going to hell, but if I see somebody actually sinning, and tell them they are, that is in no way judging them. As the Bible says, ye shall know them by their fruit.
    Yeah, it does take two people. The guy who got the woman pregnant should help take care of the kid. But, we live in a crappy world, and that doesn't always happen. Which is why it's a lot smarter to wait until you're married. But, of course, people have no self control, and don't think it's at all wrong to sleep around.

    Here is a news flash, not everyone shares your beliefs. If you think abortion is immoral that is fine, but it's ridiculous to think that every other person on this planet has to see the world the same way you do. No one is telling you that you are wrong or stupid for holding the beliefs that you do. Worry about your own life and the lives of those closest to you and let everyone else worry about theirs.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    ForestBrain wrote:
    I am a woman. And I am a virgin. I won't do it until I'm married. I'm 22.

    good. at least you're consistent.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    ForestBrain wrote:
    I am a woman. And I am a virgin. I won't do it until I'm married. I'm 22.

    what happens if you NEVER get married?
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  • Alex_Coe
    Alex_Coe Posts: 762
    What I don't understand is why can't the mothers go through with the birth then offer the baby up for adoption? And if you can't put your newborn up for adoption, why not?

    Because IMO a lot of abortions would be prevented if the mom had a humane way to have her baby but not have to support it due to whatever reason.
  • tooferz
    tooferz Posts: 135
    ForestBrain wrote:
    Stupid was for the ones who have abortions. I have utmost respect for women that take responsibility for their actions. The Bible says God hates those that shed innocent blood. And I can't think of blood any more innocent than an unborn child's. (that was in reference to those who say I'm being judgmental). I would be judgmental if I said a person was for sure going to hell, but if I see somebody actually sinning, and tell them they are, that is in no way judging them. As the Bible says, ye shall know them by their fruit.
    Yeah, it does take two people. The guy who got the woman pregnant should help take care of the kid. But, we live in a crappy world, and that doesn't always happen. Which is why it's a lot smarter to wait until you're married. But, of course, people have no self control, and don't think it's at all wrong to sleep around.

    i was married and already had 2 kids when i had an abortion. it was a health decision...not life or death at the moment...but just an added problem i didn't want to deal with. if it had affected my health adversely, and caused my death earlier...what about the 2 kids i already had? give my life for 1 unborn and then leave 3 motherless? yeah that makes sense.

    there are hundreds of different reasons women get abortions and they aren't all stupid women with no self control. and yes you ARE judging people. calling people stupid for doing something you considered a sin is judgmental. you have no idea what life will throw at you in the future.
  • tooferz
    tooferz Posts: 135
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    What I don't understand is why can't the mothers go through with the birth then offer the baby up for adoption? And if you can't put your newborn up for adoption, why not?

    Because IMO a lot of abortions would be prevented if the mom had a humane way to have her baby but not have to support it due to whatever reason.
    that way is already here. adoption has always been an option...yet abortion rates haven't dropped.
  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    catefrances wrote:
    what happens if you NEVER get married?


    I would've had to remain a virgin forever



    fuck that :D
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  • Alex_Coe
    Alex_Coe Posts: 762
    tooferz wrote:
    that way is already here. adoption has always been an option...yet abortion rates haven't dropped.

    Well that's fucking ridiculou. If you don't even have to take care of the baby after birth, then you (the mother) has a much smaller problem. You're absolved of virtually all responsibility for your accident. Can't the mother at least deal with him for 9 months if it means he'll get to live?
  • ForestBrain
    ForestBrain Posts: 460
    The problem I have with abortion is the torture it inflicts on the child. Does nobody even consider that? are you all too selfish to think of that?! Freaking mad scientists came up with the methods. Selfish, selfish, selfish. I'm completely sickened by people. You have no heart, no soul. Abortion is filthy, and only scum will get one. The doctors! Oh my gosh! I need to quit thinking about this. Those poor little babies.
    I suppose I could take ya'll's stance. If I see a child getting abused....well, it's the right of the parent to abuse him. If I see somebody getting killed, well...it's the murderers right to kill them.
    Murderers.
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  • ForestBrain
    ForestBrain Posts: 460
    catefrances wrote:
    what happens if you NEVER get married?
    I guess I would never be unvirginized.
    People have no morals.
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • Alex_Coe
    Alex_Coe Posts: 762
    ForestBrain wrote:
    The problem I have with abortion is the torture it inflicts up the child. Does nobody even consider that? are you all too selfish to think of that?! Freaking mad scientists came up with the methods. Selfish, selfish, selfish. I'm completely sickened by people. You have no heart, no soul. Abortion is filthy, and only scum will get one. The doctors! Oh my gosh! I need to quit thinking about this. Those poor little babies.
    I suppose I could take ya'll's stance. If I see a child getting abused....well, it's the right of the parent to abuse him. If I see somebody getting killed, well...it's the murderers right to kill them.
    Murderers.

    seconded. You should put up with the fetus for 9 months, at the very least. Then if you don't want him, we'll give him a real home. There's lots of women (I believe 1.5% of the women in the US) who can't have children at all.
  • ForestBrain
    ForestBrain Posts: 460
    ^ I think they prefer the easier way. Just slaughter their little baby by melting it...or chopping it up in pieces. MUCH easier than taking responsibility and birthing it for adoption. Who wants to do that?
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    ForestBrain wrote:
    The problem I have with abortion is the torture it inflicts on the child. Does nobody even consider that? are you all too selfish to think of that?! Freaking mad scientists came up with the methods. Selfish, selfish, selfish. I'm completely sickened by people. You have no heart, no soul. Abortion is filthy, and only scum will get one. The doctors! Oh my gosh! I need to quit thinking about this. Those poor little babies.
    I suppose I could take ya'll's stance. If I see a child getting abused....well, it's the right of the parent to abuse him. If I see somebody getting killed, well...it's the murderers right to kill them.
    Murderers.

    since when is a tiny blob of cells a child? lemme guess? you're too selfish to think of that
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  • ForestBrain
    ForestBrain Posts: 460
    ^You suck. I'm glad I don't know you.
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Then if you don't want him, we'll give him a real home. There's lots of women (I believe 1.5% of the women in the US) who can't have children at all.

    There are hundreds of thousands of kids out there that already need a home. Are you ready to give them a home?

    I always say, it's easy to be against abortion because all you have to do is state your opinion and walk away. It's a lot harder to give a damn about all of the kids that are already out there and desperately need a family to come home to.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    ForestBrain wrote:
    The problem I have with abortion is the torture it inflicts on the child. Does nobody even consider that? are you all too selfish to think of that?! Freaking mad scientists came up with the methods. Selfish, selfish, selfish. I'm completely sickened by people. You have no heart, no soul. Abortion is filthy, and only scum will get one. The doctors! Oh my gosh! I need to quit thinking about this. Those poor little babies.
    I suppose I could take ya'll's stance. If I see a child getting abused....well, it's the right of the parent to abuse him. If I see somebody getting killed, well...it's the murderers right to kill them.
    Murderers.

    What babies?
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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    ForestBrain wrote:
    ^You suck. I'm glad I don't know you.

    How Christlike of you! I'm sure you're making God proud tonight. :)
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    How Christlike of you! I'm sure you're making God proud tonight. :)

    God kills babies too.
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