i'm sure of one thing. life WILL throw you a curve at sometime. absolutely...positively. shit happens...LIFE happens.
when i was 22, i never dreamed i'd get cancer at 29. nor that i'd get pregnant at 31 while on chemo and get an abortion. divorced at 32. a gramma at 41. the people i've met along the way who've changed my perceptions and my world. i am NOTHING like the innocent child i was at 22.
if you honestly doubt life will bite you in the ass at least once, you are sadly living with your eyes closed.
I wasn't talking about things happening in life that are unexpected. Of course that happens, that happens all of the time. I'm really young, but I've had one rough life (yeah, and life has bitten me in the butt). I was talking about him having a reason to laugh at me....because I think abortion is horrible. That's really sad. What a sad state of mind. The thing I am certain of is that there is a God, and he is a God of vengeance and retribution.
I think all people should have to be told exactly what happens before they get an abortion. Kind of like how a doctor explains to you what you are going to be going through with chemo, and how you will feel. It's not right to keep people ignorant. I'm sorry I came off so obnoxious, I was ranting because I really hate abortion and I had to vent. I can understand why it's not good to be pregnant while in chemo....but I'm not going to get into that, because I'll probably offend you.
And, no, I'm not Baptist either. I'm non-denominational, I don't go to church, I just read the Bible and do my best to do what it says.
When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
I wasn't talking about things happening in life that are unexpected. Of course that happens, that happens all of the time. I'm really young, but I've had one rough life (yeah, and life has bitten me in the butt). I was talking about him having a reason to laugh at me....because I think abortion is horrible. That's really sad. What a sad state of mind. The thing I am certain of is that there is a God, and he is a God of vengeance and retribution.
I think all people should have to be told exactly what happens before they get an abortion. Kind of like how a doctor explains to you what you are going to be going through with chemo, and how you will feel. It's not right to keep people ignorant. I'm sorry I came off so obnoxious, I was ranting because I really hate abortion and I had to vent. I can understand why it's not good to be pregnant while in chemo....but I'm not going to get into that, because I'll probably offend you.
And, no, I'm not Baptist either. I'm non-denominational, I don't go to church, I just read the Bible and do my best to do what it says.
Of course you think that way, that's part of indoctrinating someone prior to brain development.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
^ I'm sorry I don't conform to popular belief like so many other mindless robots.
But you are a conformist. You see, you seek to non-conform to religious doctrine, but this makes you a non-conformist, and as non-conformists go, you conform. Follow? The best thing about gays, is almost every single one swallows. But you still operate within the context of the Bible and only the gospels included in it. You don't see everything else that goes on outside of that. Like for example the mass murdering of non-christians that lead to Christianity being the largest religion in the world. And consequently why it's often viewed as the only religion. The story of Noah's Ark was taken from the Sumerian tablets that predate the Judeo-Christian account by about 5 centuries. It's religious lore, and I say, you do conform to belief and you are a robot.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I wasn't talking about things happening in life that are unexpected. Of course that happens, that happens all of the time. I'm really young, but I've had one rough life (yeah, and life has bitten me in the butt). I was talking about him having a reason to laugh at me....because I think abortion is horrible. That's really sad. What a sad state of mind. The thing I am certain of is that there is a God, and he is a God of vengeance and retribution.
I think all people should have to be told exactly what happens before they get an abortion. Kind of like how a doctor explains to you what you are going to be going through with chemo, and how you will feel. It's not right to keep people ignorant. I'm sorry I came off so obnoxious, I was ranting because I really hate abortion and I had to vent. I can understand why it's not good to be pregnant while in chemo....but I'm not going to get into that, because I'll probably offend you.
And, no, I'm not Baptist either. I'm non-denominational, I don't go to church, I just read the Bible and do my best to do what it says.
no i wouldn't laugh at you because you believe abortion is wrong. i thought you were telling me i was heartless scum because of the choice i made and believing life would always be easy and when it did eventually get you, i'd laugh.
i still don't believe in abortion so much as i believe it is a woman's choice. the same as if my dr finds a tumor and i decide to leave it in me. it is MY body...it is MY choice. no one else lives my life...no one else has to deal with whatever vengeance your god wants to extract of me for my choices except ME.
and no you can't offend me over my choice to abort while on chemo. i did it with no regrets. i had 2 kids who were 3 and 9 that needed their mom and a choice to go thru a pregnancy that by it's very design makes cancer grow fast and furious in me and birth a child who quite possibly would be detrimentally affected by chemo or i could abort. my living, thinking, feeling children needed me more than a clump of cells.
How do you torture something that can't feel anything?
You do not know if the baby feels pain or not. That has not been proven at all. Why take the chance? I know from much experience that newborns are HIGHLY sensitive to touch. Most science is conjecture and theory. Why don't you go watch some abortion videos?
When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
You do not know if the baby feels pain or not. That has not been proven at all. Why take the chance? I know from much experience that newborns are HIGHLY sensitive to touch. Most science is conjecture and theory. Why don't you go watch some abortion videos?
I think I learned about that one in first grade.
Seems ya'll are lacking the part in the brain that is compassion, though. Go ahead, be ignorant. Enjoy it while it lasts.
When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I think I learned about that one in first grade.
Seems ya'll are lacking the part in the brain that is compassion, though. Go ahead, be ignorant. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Well do you understand the purpose of the central nervous system?
You do not know if the baby feels pain or not. That has not been proven at all. Why take the chance? I know from much experience that newborns are HIGHLY sensitive to touch. Most science is conjecture and theory. Why don't you go watch some abortion videos?
Right ... and a newborn is exactly the same as a 10 week-old fetus :rolleyes:
I give up, this is like arguing with a toddler.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
Oh religion is real :rolleyes: Not on topic... but I am reading this amazing book called " Under the Banner of Heaven " which is about the Mormon church and its foundation etc. I have never really gotten religion but it just amazes me the shit believe and then DO all in the name of something so abstract
Oh religion is real :rolleyes: Not on topic... but I am reading this amazing book called " Under the Banner of Heaven " which is about the Mormon church and its foundation etc. I have never really gotten religion but it just amazes me the shit believe and then DO all in the name of something so abstract
Now back to the hamster wheel topic at hand.
I read that book! How far disconnected from reality do you have to be in order to believe some of that shit?! Scary, isn't it?
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
I read that book! How far disconnected from reality do you have to be in order to believe some of that shit?! Scary, isn't it?
So scary, seriously I have NO idea how far out you need to be. When I finish we should have a thread on it because HOLY FUCK, people. Is it just me or did you have troubling following who marries who?
So scary, seriously I have NO idea how far out you need to be. When I finish we should have a thread on it because HOLY FUCK, people. Is it just me or did you have troubling following who marries who?
It's impossible to keep track without drawing a diagram.
I was going to start a thread when I finished it, but it was so damn weird and confusing I couldn't even figure out how to make a thread about it, lol.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
"In Under the Banner of Heaven, he turn his attention to fundamentalist zealots of the Mormon church. Centering his novel around brothers Dan and Ron Lafferty, who murdered Ron's wife and infant daughter, ostensibly under God's orders. Telling the story of their violent and virulent beliefs, Krakauer also ties in Mormon history from Joseph Smith, Jr. and Brigham Young to the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart. The sect of Mormons that still practice polygamy practice a system of feminine abuse, rape, incest, and intermarriage in the belief that they are preparing for the the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord. It's an eye-opening look at the history of polygamy within the Mormon church and the abuse and violence it often engenders. The San Francisco Chronicle says of Under the Banner of Heaven, "His new work is a fantastic read, right up there with In Cold Blood and The Executioner's Song in its depiction of that strange American blend of piety, violence and longing for the End Times."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
It's impossible to keep track without drawing a diagram.
I was going to start a thread when I finished it, but it was so damn weird and confusing I couldn't even figure out how to make a thread about it, lol.
They must have quite the family trees :eek: sadly it is probably only about three branches.
Good point how do you even explain it because while reading it I keep going WTF??? . It is fascinating though. I had NO idea they were so ... homogenized? and holy misogyny :eek:
Makes me think I could go out and start my own religion tomorrow.
Oh religion is real :rolleyes: Not on topic... but I am reading this amazing book called " Under the Banner of Heaven " which is about the Mormon church and its foundation etc. I have never really gotten religion but it just amazes me the shit believe and then DO all in the name of something so abstract
Now back to the hamster wheel topic at hand.
Religion is a tool.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
well let's face it, how difficult could it possibly be. L. Ron Hubbard did it.
To be honest, Scientology is easier to believe than the Christian faith. I'd even be more inclined to go with Hinduism or Buddhism. Out of all the faiths the Judea-Christian faiths are the most eccentric. IMO.
It makes everything black or white.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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I think all people should have to be told exactly what happens before they get an abortion. Kind of like how a doctor explains to you what you are going to be going through with chemo, and how you will feel. It's not right to keep people ignorant. I'm sorry I came off so obnoxious, I was ranting because I really hate abortion and I had to vent. I can understand why it's not good to be pregnant while in chemo....but I'm not going to get into that, because I'll probably offend you.
And, no, I'm not Baptist either. I'm non-denominational, I don't go to church, I just read the Bible and do my best to do what it says.
Of course you think that way, that's part of indoctrinating someone prior to brain development.
But you are a conformist. You see, you seek to non-conform to religious doctrine, but this makes you a non-conformist, and as non-conformists go, you conform. Follow? The best thing about gays, is almost every single one swallows. But you still operate within the context of the Bible and only the gospels included in it. You don't see everything else that goes on outside of that. Like for example the mass murdering of non-christians that lead to Christianity being the largest religion in the world. And consequently why it's often viewed as the only religion. The story of Noah's Ark was taken from the Sumerian tablets that predate the Judeo-Christian account by about 5 centuries. It's religious lore, and I say, you do conform to belief and you are a robot.
How do you torture something that can't feel anything?
~Ron Burgundy
Got a couple things to do first. I'll put up a new gabbly thread in a little bit.
tis the season to be gabblish,...
~Ron Burgundy
no i wouldn't laugh at you because you believe abortion is wrong. i thought you were telling me i was heartless scum because of the choice i made and believing life would always be easy and when it did eventually get you, i'd laugh.
i still don't believe in abortion so much as i believe it is a woman's choice. the same as if my dr finds a tumor and i decide to leave it in me. it is MY body...it is MY choice. no one else lives my life...no one else has to deal with whatever vengeance your god wants to extract of me for my choices except ME.
and no you can't offend me over my choice to abort while on chemo. i did it with no regrets. i had 2 kids who were 3 and 9 that needed their mom and a choice to go thru a pregnancy that by it's very design makes cancer grow fast and furious in me and birth a child who quite possibly would be detrimentally affected by chemo or i could abort. my living, thinking, feeling children needed me more than a clump of cells.
Meh the world is over populated anyway hence this thread
Do you know what a central nervous system is?
Seems ya'll are lacking the part in the brain that is compassion, though. Go ahead, be ignorant. Enjoy it while it lasts.
And religion is?
Well do you understand the purpose of the central nervous system?
I give up, this is like arguing with a toddler.
Oh religion is real :rolleyes: Not on topic... but I am reading this amazing book called " Under the Banner of Heaven " which is about the Mormon church and its foundation etc. I have never really gotten religion but it just amazes me the shit believe and then DO all in the name of something so abstract
Now back to the hamster wheel topic at hand.
What??? You mean, you don't think we're going to resolve this argument within the confines of this thread once and for all?
I love the internet.
So scary, seriously I have NO idea how far out you need to be. When I finish we should have a thread on it because HOLY FUCK, people. Is it just me or did you have troubling following who marries who?
Well on the last thread about this I was sure we were almost there :rolleyes:
Ahhh yes the internet attracting the weird and wonderful and the down right looney
I was going to start a thread when I finished it, but it was so damn weird and confusing I couldn't even figure out how to make a thread about it, lol.
"In Under the Banner of Heaven, he turn his attention to fundamentalist zealots of the Mormon church. Centering his novel around brothers Dan and Ron Lafferty, who murdered Ron's wife and infant daughter, ostensibly under God's orders. Telling the story of their violent and virulent beliefs, Krakauer also ties in Mormon history from Joseph Smith, Jr. and Brigham Young to the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart. The sect of Mormons that still practice polygamy practice a system of feminine abuse, rape, incest, and intermarriage in the belief that they are preparing for the the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord. It's an eye-opening look at the history of polygamy within the Mormon church and the abuse and violence it often engenders. The San Francisco Chronicle says of Under the Banner of Heaven, "His new work is a fantastic read, right up there with In Cold Blood and The Executioner's Song in its depiction of that strange American blend of piety, violence and longing for the End Times."
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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They must have quite the family trees :eek: sadly it is probably only about three branches.
Good point how do you even explain it because while reading it I keep going WTF???
Makes me think I could go out and start my own religion tomorrow.
well let's face it, how difficult could it possibly be. L. Ron Hubbard did it.
take a good look
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OMG!!! too funny!
Religion is a tool.
To be honest, Scientology is easier to believe than the Christian faith. I'd even be more inclined to go with Hinduism or Buddhism. Out of all the faiths the Judea-Christian faiths are the most eccentric. IMO.
It makes everything black or white.