Mindless Sheep? Enlighten Me.....

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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    nathanastin wrote:
    What happens when we all make the same and act the same and live the same? Will that be a great America?

    you are taking things to such huge extremes ... do you relaly think Obama's tax plan will result in everyone "making the same"? C'mon.
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  • HermanBloom
    HermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    Thanks for the attempt at a debate; I am out for the weekend, but I hope I come back some posts that left answers for me.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    nathanastin wrote:
    Once again, the PJ fans fail and cannot resist being ignorant assholes.

    what a good christian :rolleyes:
  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    nathanastin wrote:
    You mean it is historic because a black man was voted into office? That is a great accomplishment and should be applauded, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't question him at all. I understand you see it as passion, but I also see completely following without questioning; unfortunately, the media has not helped on this part. I honestly hope Obama is successful and helps this country forward. I just hope we can call him when he is wrong.


    For the first time in this thread I actually agree with you.

    However
    The pedals apear to be backing up here compared to your original post which was very critical and pessimistic towards a President Elect whom hasn't even taken office yet.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,705
    I do want to honestly understand ...

    you can't your filled with too much hate & bigotry get out some leave the backwoods where you live see the world ..clueless soul .
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • HermanBloom
    HermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    jimed14 wrote:
    you are taking things to such huge extremes ... do you relaly think Obama's tax plan will result in everyone "making the same"? C'mon.
    No, but isn't that where it could lead?
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  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    nathanastin wrote:
    What happens when we all make the same and act the same and live the same? Will that be a great America?

    I imagine that dogs and cats will live together first. So, you'll have sufficient notice to begin the rioting.

    You still didn't answer my last question or comment regarding redistribution. You know, the one where I pointed out the irony of the wealthy complaining about redistribution.

    But, I get it. You are kind of having a lot of conversations at once with people here. Best to ignore the more difficult questions.
  • HermanBloom
    HermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    josevolution wrote:
    I do want to honestly understand ...

    you can't your filled with too much hate & bigotry get out some leave the backwoods where you live see the world ..clueless soul .
    You answered my question; those who you disagree with are ignorant and backwoods. How am I hatefilled and bigoted if I disagree with you? I don't hate anyone for following Obama or mindlessly following Obama, even if I disagree.
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    nathanastin wrote:
    No, but isn't that where it could lead?

    no.
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  • HermanBloom
    HermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    anotherclone wrote:
    I imagine that dogs and cats will live together first. So, you'll have sufficient notice to begin the rioting.

    You still didn't answer my last question or comment regarding redistribution. You know, the one where I pointed out the irony of the wealthy complaining about redistribution.

    But, I get it. You are kind of having a lot of conversations at once with people here. Best to ignore the more difficult questions.
    I don't see that as redistribution. They make the money, they should keep an equal percent as everyone else. I disagree with Robin Hood politics.
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  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    nathanastin wrote:
    I honestly hope Obama is successful

    You hope Obama is successful about as much as you plan on being the best man in a gay wedding. I didn't think it was possible to be so transparant and dense at the same time.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    nathanastin wrote:
    You answered my question; those who you disagree with are ignorant and backwoods. How am I hatefilled and bigoted if I disagree with you? I don't hate anyone for following Obama or mindlessly following Obama, even if I disagree.

    ha ha ha...you're cracking me up...you come here claiming to seek a honest debate. then in your second post in this thread you call folks assholes...now suddenly your the victim...

    haaaa haaaa haaaaa

    this is good stuff....
  • HermanBloom
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    You hope Obama is successful about as much as you plan on being the best man in a gay wedding. I didn't think it was possible to be so transparant and dense at the same time.
    Nice name calling. Didn't gay weddings just get voted down?
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  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    nathanastin wrote:
    Nice name calling. Didn't gay weddings just get voted down?


    Oh, you know it did and watched with smug satisfaction the entire time. You can admit it to me...
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  • HermanBloom
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    inmytree wrote:
    ha ha ha...you're cracking me up...you come here claiming to seek a honest debate. then in your second post in this thread you call folks assholes...now suddenly your the victim...

    haaaa haaaa haaaaa

    this is good stuff....
    If I wasn't attacked I would not respond. I just respond like that because no one on here ever wants to be civil, so I just brought it down to that level after I knew no one would respond to my questions without calling me ignorant, close-minded, backwoods, bigoted, etc.
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  • HermanBloom
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    Oh, you know it did and watched with smug satisfaction the entire time. You can admit it to me...
    I have no satisfaction in that; I know it will be overturned by legislating judges.
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  • inmytree
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    nathanastin wrote:
    If I wasn't attacked I would not respond. I just respond like that because no one on here ever wants to be civil, so I just brought it down to that level after I knew no one would respond to my questions without calling me ignorant, close-minded, backwoods, bigoted, etc.

    does someone need a whaaaaaambulance....?

    dude, you set the tone of this thread...quit playing the victim and make your point...
  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    nathanastin wrote:
    If I wasn't attacked I would not respond. I just respond like that because no one on here ever wants to be civil, so I just brought it down to that level after I knew no one would respond to my questions without calling me ignorant, close-minded, backwoods, bigoted, etc.

    There's a saying...

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  • HermanBloom
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    inmytree wrote:
    does someone need a whaaaaaambulance....?

    dude, you set the tone of this thread...quit playing the victim and make your point...
    My points were in my original post and no one wants to respond to them. Please reread it and then answer some of the things I posited.
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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    I don't see mindless worship of Obama, I see a passionate response towards possible change. It's been a while, but I'm sure the response was close but not completely similar to when Clinton was elected. This was an historic election, afterall. That is the tremendous part!

    If Republicans didn't want change then the current president would have had a bigger role in supporting McCain. When the dust has settled the passionate response to the win will become an anxious anticipation. So much we didn't know could happen has happened in the past 8 years, and it's safe to assume that we don't know what is in store.



    well said.


    besides the fact....the WAY overused 'mindless sheep' has been an equal opportunity slur. i've seen it used for reps, dems and nader supporters...so it's non-discriminatory. :p that and 'drinking the kool-aide'........bah. :rolleyes:
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