Can Obama defeat McCain?

chipboy

I would think the fact that McCain can't comb his hair by himself and he is one stumble away from breaking his hip should factor in considerably.

blackredyellow

chipboy wrote:

I would think the fact that McCain can't comb his hair by himself and he is one stumble away from breaking his hip should factor in considerably.

I think the combing his own hair comment is out of line, but I agree about his age being a factor.

I'm surprised that the republicans would do this to themselves. They put Bush in office with a VP that had no interest in running for president, thus putting themselves in this un-republican like fight for the nomination, and now they are basically nominating a one-term candidate.

chipboy

Nothing is out of line when it comes to politics. There was an hour discussion about his inability to raise his hands over his head on public radio last night. Sure it was the result of him breaking both his arms after ejecting from his fighter plane over Vietnam and he was refused medical attention and tortured for 6 years but hey what difference does that make on election day. He still is old and crippled. It's a big factor. Almost as big a factor as Barack Husein Obama's name and skin color.

Uncle Leo

It's looking like Hillary v McCain, thank you Superdelegates.

Hillary will bring out a HUGE voter turnout...against her. We're going to remember just how hated she is. Over/under on # of states she wins is 5.

Obama would have a shot.

Keating 5.

mca47

Uncle Leo wrote:

It's looking like Hillary v McCain, thank you Superdelegates.

Hillary will bring out a HUGE voter turnout...against her. We're going to remember just how hated she is. Over/under on # of states she wins is 5.

Obama would have a shot.

Keating 5.

Obama is going to do very well in Feb. He is polling better then Clinton in the next three states...I think what it will come down to is Texas and Ohio. Clinton just dropped $5 mil of her own money to combat Obama's record fundraising effort. He's going to have the $ to flood the airways. Superdelagates are important, but he's still drawing MUCH, MUCH more money then she is and has the time to spend it.

Obama vs. McCain

Obama wins.

Thecure

chipboy wrote:

Nothing is out of line when it comes to politics. There was an hour discussion about his inability to raise his hands over his head on public radio last night. Sure it was the result of him breaking both his arms after ejecting from his fighter plane over Vietnam and he was refused medical attention and tortured for 6 years but hey what difference does that make on election day. He still is old and crippled. It's a big factor. Almost as big a factor as Barack Husein Obama's name and skin color.

sadly, i agree with you. ofcourse the public radio that talked about his inability for McCain to raise his arm is a disgrace. you might not liek McCain but he is a guy who actually went into war unlike BUSH 2 and Clinton. all i know is that if i had to pick a commander in chief of teh army i would want someone who has fought in a war

Steve Dunne

well here we are 4 months later...and the question proved prophetic in a way...we still don't know who the veeps will be, but it looks like obama and mccain.

that said, i think obama can win, whereas back in january i wasn't so sure. i believe mccain is just a scapegoat candidate that the repubs are putting up there because there really is no way to defend the idiocy of the repub party and what's it's done to this country's morale and yet mccain is steadfast in his belief that the war (in iraq) was justified. i remember thinking when congress voted to ok military force in iraq that whatever democrat didn't vote along with it was going to be a frontrunner in this election. obama was one of them. clinton's vote, no matter how much she tries to backtrack it, has cursed her election run. my opinion.

puremagic

Yes, because the Republican party can not control McCain. McCain is not running for President of the United States, he his running for Commander-In-Chief. McCain's foreign policy positions are unstable and when he speaks on current war related issues, you get a sense there's some confusion between the past and present enemies.

Of late, we have been seeing are lobbyist distancing themselves from the potential scrunity that McCain brings because he's too unpredictable. McCain speaks without thinking, then goes all senile, leaving up to others to clean up his mess. Lobbyists don't want to be on the front page, they don't even want to be known. McCain is becoming a liability for bigtime contributors. So unless the Republican party can find a way to direct McCain's path he'll lose because McCain has not demonstrated any willingness to be guided by the RNC.

g under p

Today I saw my first McCain sticker here in Washington DC.

Peace

Steve Dunne

g under p wrote:

Today I saw my first McCain sticker here in Washington DC.

Peace

I believe the guy was a better candidate in 2000 than he is now. And that's w/out GWB in the picture.

Steve Dunne

bumping for relevance 7 months after the original post...i think he can win it all...depending upon who his veep is. but again, mccain was a better candidate in 2000.

Thecure

Steve Dunne wrote:

bumping for relevance 7 months after the original post...i think he can win it all...depending upon who his veep is. but again, mccain was a better candidate in 2000.

i agree that he was a better candidate in 2000 but ithink teh sad part is that he is running for president now but lost in 2000. makes you wonder if the world has changed?

decides2dream

Steve Dunne wrote:

bumping for relevance 7 months after the original post...i think he can win it all...depending upon who his veep is.

most definitely agree, and not even so much on who is his VP choice. obviously yes, it IS important...but given the other choises out ther for president, i don't think who he chooses as his running mate will have AS much significance as it may have during other elections, with other candidates.


however, i also thought that NO way would GWB ever get elected to a second term, so i certainly don't want to jinx anything now...:o

Steve Dunne

decides2dream wrote:

most definitely agree, and not even so much on who is his VP choice. obviously yes, it IS important...but given the other choises out ther for president, i don't think who he chooses as his running mate will have AS much significance as it may have during other elections, with other candidates.


however, i also thought that NO way would GWB ever get elected to a second term, so i certainly don't want to jinx anything now...:o

agree. i remember watching the '04 election trying to put together a rolling cutting board thing for my kitchen and it ended up looking like a ping pong table by 11pm. ps - how's the foot?

decides2dream

Steve Dunne wrote:

agree. i remember watching the '04 election trying to put together a rolling cutting board thing for my kitchen and it ended up looking like a ping pong table by 11pm. ps - how's the foot?

hahahahaha.

i was just soooo PISSED OFF with anyone who voted for bush. i couldn't believe he got elected once...but TWICE?! sweet bejeebus. and then i learn that my supposedly liberal sister actually voted FOR him, b/c of the war, etc. let me tell you, that made for some pretty heated family discussions. i already KNEW my other sister, and my mom, would vote for him...no surprise there, bu thte fact that my other sister got roped in, well it shows what happened. damn...it still pisses me off.


anyhoo, end rant...what's done is done and all that, eh?



and, the ankle is good. still hurts, still a wee bit swollen, but no longer all the colors of the rainbow, no crutches, and getting better. thanks!




and yes...i want to be HOPEFUL in november, and really feel like we as a country are working on taking a turn, changing stance....working on the future instead of burying it. i DO think it's possible...but hell yes, most definitely a long, long road....

Steve Dunne

Interesting what's happened over the last 9 months...wonder what the next 9 will bring!?!?!

Steve Dunne

Afuckingmen i wish i could predict tonight's lottery numbers.

Mutiny! he cried

t

chipboy wrote:

It looks like it could be my doom day scenario. McCain vs Obama. Old vs young. Pro-war vs anti-war. Insider vs newcomer. All should mean an easy Obama victory but I fear the one I left off will be the determining factor. White vs black. If McCain wins in a close controversial way like Bush beat Gore I can see riots. If Obama wins I can see an assasination attempt leading to the same. I know it sounds ignorant to suggest such things but the black people I work with say the same thing so I know I'm not alone in thinking it.

you better not let a post-election obama supporter catch you saying he is anti-war, apparently they feel only a complete moron thought th