Ankle-biting Democrats

HughFreakingDillon

Tim Simmons said:

This isn't fighting. 

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/theres-a-new-budget-showdown-senate-dems-current-plan-is-bullshit

Why do we want these people to remain in power if they aren't even gonna try?

I can't read the entire thing, as it's paywalled, but because dems are between a rock and a hard place. 

You fight? You get accused of holding up government funding. And the majority of the country believes it. Oddly, the opposite doesn't seem to happen. When the dems are in power and the R's stonewall, it's for "legit reasons". 

Lerxst1992

tempo_n_groove said:

Lerxst1992 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/01/democrats-fret-the-zohran-mamdani-effect-will-cost-them-next-year-00531906

Zohran Mamdani’s front-running campaign to lead the nation’s largest city is stoking fear among moderate Democrats that his far-left politics will cost them at the ballot box.

They worry a Mamdani mayoralty will deepen an existential crisis for a party desperate to win back power in Congress — simultaneously handing Republicans a cudgel to paint their moderate opponents as socialists and encouraging hard-left copy cat candidates to primary Democratic incumbents, potentially pushing the party further to the left.

Republicans are giving the 33-year-old democratic socialist a starring role in digital ads and fundraising appeals — affixing him to moderate Democrats who represent swing seats in the New York City suburbs and nationwid

A video this month by the House GOP’s campaign arm warned that Democrats “want to turn America into a socialist, crime-filled dystopia” and features a clip of Mamdani discussing the “abolition of private property.”

“I’ve never seen Republicans more giddy about the idea of a socialist mayor of New York City,” said former Nassau County executive Laura Curran, a Democrat. “They’re more excited about this than Mamdani’s followers or supporters

“Mamdani is the greatest threat to Democrats probably since Ronald Reagan because he’s everything Democrats have been accused of being and in fact is — to the extreme,” said Hank Sheinkopf, a longtime New York Democratic operative who is advising one of the anti-Mamdani groups. “Republican ad makers will know what to do with this.”

Democratic Rep. Laura Gillen, whose swing House seat on Long Island will be a top target for Republicans next year, called Mamdani “too extreme to lead New York City.”

Bernie Sanders, remember him?  We all liked him.  Well he's doing an anti oligarchy tour and Mandani is invited.  I'm sure Bernie doesn't see him as too extreme.

Is that the same Bernie Sanders who ran for president a few times and never got nominated?

How many electoral votes in the history of the country has someone like Bernie Sanders received? How many swing state senate elections has Bernie Sanders ever won?

How many cities with the visibility of New York City has Bernie Sanders ever run? These Zohan policies blow up and the Democrats are going to look like stooges. Again and again and again

Tim Simmons

Maybe because he's been sandbagged by establishment Dems (The same ones that push center and slightly center left positions to minimal success)? Lets put candidates like him up and have them sell their positions and see how they do.

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

Maybe because he's been sandbagged by establishment Dems (The same ones that push center and slightly center left positions to minimal success)? Lets put candidates like him up and have them sell their positions and see how they do.

We did in 2020, the moderate Biden beat them all. Then Biden got old unfortunately and somehow out came a much more liberal version of him, complete with a magic autopen.

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

This isn't fighting. 

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/theres-a-new-budget-showdown-senate-dems-current-plan-is-bullshit

Why do we want these people to remain in power if they aren't even gonna try?

Because Democrats always lose when the govt is shutdown. 


They need the things they like such as food for the hungry and housing.  The gop would let that crap stay closed all year.

Go ahead, make their day. 

Go Beavers

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Maybe because he's been sandbagged by establishment Dems (The same ones that push center and slightly center left positions to minimal success)? Lets put candidates like him up and have them sell their positions and see how they do.

We did in 2020, the moderate Biden beat them all. Then Biden got old unfortunately and somehow out came a much more liberal version of him, complete with a magic autopen.

I must have missed the much more liberal papa Joe. 

HughFreakingDillon

liberal joe. hahahaha

Halifax2TheMax

HughFreakingDillon said:

liberal joe. hahahaha

Brandliberalon.

Lerxst1992

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Maybe because he's been sandbagged by establishment Dems (The same ones that push center and slightly center left positions to minimal success)? Lets put candidates like him up and have them sell their positions and see how they do.

We did in 2020, the moderate Biden beat them all. Then Biden got old unfortunately and somehow out came a much more liberal version of him, complete with a magic autopen.

I must have missed the much more liberal papa Joe. 

Did you lift a finger to do any research on that accurate point or are you prouder at producing maga level biased content.

..

Yes, Joe Biden's record on immigration shows a significant shift from his earlier career in the Senate to his presidency. His policies as president were generally seen as more liberal than those he supported in the 1990s.

Earlier Career (1990s)

During his time as a senator, particularly in the mid-1990s, Biden was a proponent of more restrictive immigration policies. Key points from this era include:

 * Tough-on-Crime Stance: He was a key figure in the "tough on crime" movement and supported legislation that expanded the federal government's power to detain and deport immigrants.

 * Immigration Legislation: He voted for bills in 1996 that significantly increased deportations and expanded grounds for the indefinite detention of immigrants. This legislation contributed to a sharp increase in deportations in the years that followed.

Presidency

As president, his administration pursued policies that were often in direct contrast to his earlier record. He campaigned on a platform to reform the immigration system and reverse many of the policies of the previous administration.

 * Early Actions: Upon taking office, he moved quickly to halt construction of the border wall, end the "Muslim travel ban," and establish a task force to reunite families separated at the border.

 * Expansion of Legal Pathways: His administration prioritized restoring and expanding legal immigration. This included raising the annual cap on refugee admissions, which had fallen to historic lows, and creating new humanitarian parole programs for migrants from specific countries.

 * Legislative Proposals: He sent a comprehensive immigration bill to Congress that would have provided a pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants already in the country. This was a significant departure from his earlier focus on enforcement.

 * Mixed Record on Enforcement: While his administration initially sought to end some of the more restrictive policies, it also faced record numbers of migrant encounters at the border. This led to a mix of policies, including reliance on some Trump-era measures like Title 42, which allowed for rapid expulsions during the pandemic. His administration also carried out a high number of deportations.

In summary, while there were elements of enforcement in his presidential policies, the overall direction and stated goals of his administration were a clear break from his more enforcement-focused record in the 1990s.

tempo_n_groove

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Maybe because he's been sandbagged by establishment Dems (The same ones that push center and slightly center left positions to minimal success)? Lets put candidates like him up and have them sell their positions and see how they do.

We did in 2020, the moderate Biden beat them all. Then Biden got old unfortunately and somehow out came a much more liberal version of him, complete with a magic autopen.

I must have missed the much more liberal papa Joe. 

Did you lift a finger to do any research on that accurate point or are you prouder at producing maga level biased content.

..

Yes, Joe Biden's record on immigration shows a significant shift from his earlier career in the Senate to his presidency. His policies as president were generally seen as more liberal than those he supported in the 1990s.

Earlier Career (1990s)

During his time as a senator, particularly in the mid-1990s, Biden was a proponent of more restrictive immigration policies. Key points from this era include:

 * Tough-on-Crime Stance: He was a key figure in the "tough on crime" movement and supported legislation that expanded the federal government's power to detain and deport immigrants.

 * Immigration Legislation: He voted for bills in 1996 that significantly increased deportations and expanded grounds for the indefinite detention of immigrants. This legislation contributed to a sharp increase in deportations in the years that followed.

Presidency

As president, his administration pursued policies that were often in direct contrast to his earlier record. He campaigned on a platform to reform the immigration system and reverse many of the policies of the previous administration.

 * Early Actions: Upon taking office, he moved quickly to halt construction of the border wall, end the "Muslim travel ban," and establish a task force to reunite families separated at the border.

 * Expansion of Legal Pathways: His administration prioritized restoring and expanding legal immigration. This included raising the annual cap on refugee admissions, which had fallen to historic lows, and creating new humanitarian parole programs for migrants from specific countries.

 * Legislative Proposals: He sent a comprehensive immigration bill to Congress that would have provided a pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants already in the country. This was a significant departure from his earlier focus on enforcement.

 * Mixed Record on Enforcement: While his administration initially sought to end some of the more restrictive policies, it also faced record numbers of migrant encounters at the border. This led to a mix of policies, including reliance on some Trump-era measures like Title 42, which allowed for rapid expulsions during the pandemic. His administration also carried out a high number of deportations.

In summary, while there were elements of enforcement in his presidential policies, the overall direction and stated goals of his administration were a clear break from his more enforcement-focused record in the 1990s.

He basically undid what Trump was doing.  I wouldn't call that Liberal Joe.

Halifax2TheMax

Posting copy and pasting is “lifting a finger.”

HughFreakingDillon

Halifax2TheMax said:

Posting copy and pasting is “lifting a finger.”

LOL

Go Beavers

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Maybe because he's been sandbagged by establishment Dems (The same ones that push center and slightly center left positions to minimal success)? Lets put candidates like him up and have them sell their positions and see how they do.

We did in 2020, the moderate Biden beat them all. Then Biden got old unfortunately and somehow out came a much more liberal version of him, complete with a magic autopen.

I must have missed the much more liberal papa Joe. 

Did you lift a finger to do any research on that accurate point or are you prouder at producing maga level biased content.

..

Yes, Joe Biden's record on immigration shows a significant shift from his earlier career in the Senate to his presidency. His policies as president were generally seen as more liberal than those he supported in the 1990s.

Earlier Career (1990s)

During his time as a senator, particularly in the mid-1990s, Biden was a proponent of more restrictive immigration policies. Key points from this era include:

 * Tough-on-Crime Stance: He was a key figure in the "tough on crime" movement and supported legislation that expanded the federal government's power to detain and deport immigrants.

 * Immigration Legislation: He voted for bills in 1996 that significantly increased deportations and expanded grounds for the indefinite detention of immigrants. This legislation contributed to a sharp increase in deportations in the years that followed.

Presidency

As president, his administration pursued policies that were often in direct contrast to his earlier record. He campaigned on a platform to reform the immigration system and reverse many of the policies of the previous administration.

 * Early Actions: Upon taking office, he moved quickly to halt construction of the border wall, end the "Muslim travel ban," and establish a task force to reunite families separated at the border.

 * Expansion of Legal Pathways: His administration prioritized restoring and expanding legal immigration. This included raising the annual cap on refugee admissions, which had fallen to historic lows, and creating new humanitarian parole programs for migrants from specific countries.

 * Legislative Proposals: He sent a comprehensive immigration bill to Congress that would have provided a pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants already in the country. This was a significant departure from his earlier focus on enforcement.

 * Mixed Record on Enforcement: While his administration initially sought to end some of the more restrictive policies, it also faced record numbers of migrant encounters at the border. This led to a mix of policies, including reliance on some Trump-era measures like Title 42, which allowed for rapid expulsions during the pandemic. His administration also carried out a high number of deportations.

In summary, while there were elements of enforcement in his presidential policies, the overall direction and stated goals of his administration were a clear break from his more enforcement-focused record in the 1990s.

Good goal post move. You made reference to moderate Joe of 2020, not 1990s. And much of the post claiming he’s moved left turns out to be republicans moving further right as well as being more anti immigrant since the 90s. 

Gern Blansten

Talarico looking for TX Senate run.... I like him 

gimmesometruth27

Gern Blansten said:

Talarico looking for TX Senate run.... I like him 

hes gonna get jerrymandered out because texas.

DE4173

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Talarico looking for TX Senate run.... I like him 

hes gonna get jerrymandered out because texas.

Tim Simmons

Reminds me of some people who post here

Halifax2TheMax

Tim Simmons said:

Reminds me of some people who post here

Nevermind her credentials. But you know, “the other.”