GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Hamas' top leaders in Gaza and Syria warned the moderate Palestinian president Friday not to "fall into the trap" of an upcoming U.S.-sponsored peace conference with Israel.
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Ismail Haniyeh, who was deposed as Palestinian prime minister after Hamas violently seized Gaza in June, urged President Mahmoud Abbas to mend his rift with the Islamic militant group and criticized him for planning to attend the peace conference next month.
"Don't fall into the trap of the coming conference. Don't make new compromises on Jerusalem, on our sovereignty," Haniyeh said, speaking to thousands of cheering supporters for the Muslim Eid al-Fitr holiday.
Hamas' Syria-based supreme leader, Khaled Mashaal, echoed the warning in his own holiday message, accusing Israel and the U.S. of taking advantage of the Palestinian rift to try to wrest concessions in peace negotiations.
Abbas retaliated for Hamas' takeover of the Gaza Strip by expelling the group from his government and setting up his own administration in the West Bank. Mashaal urged Abbas to accept the Islamists' invitations for dialogue.
Abbas and his allies "will find out that they are pursuing nothing but a mirage," Mashaal said on Hamas radio.
Israel and the Palestinians hope to present the contours of a final peace accord at the conference, tentatively set for Annapolis, Md., at the end of November.
I think the following comment answers your lame attempt at defending Israeli terrorism quite nicely...
"The significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process...prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on refugees, the borders, and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda.."
Israeli PM Ariel Sharon's senior advisor Dov Weisglass during an interview published in Ha'aretz newspaper Friday magazine, Oct 8th, 2004.
I think the following comment answers your lame attempt at defending Israeli terrorism quite nicely...
"The significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process...prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on refugees, the borders, and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda.."
Israeli PM Ariel Sharon's senior advisor Dov Weisglass during an interview published in Ha'aretz newspaper Friday magazine, Oct 8th, 2004.
how about we deal with the present? that was over 3 years ago. and who knows if this 1 statement was taken out of context or what. who knows. lots of....in there.
I dont believe either of these guys have any influence on whats happening today. sharon is practically dead isnt he?
how about we deal with the present? that was over 3 years ago. and who knows if this 1 statement was taken out of context or what. who knows. lots of....in there.
I dont believe either of these guys have any influence on whats happening today. sharon is practically dead isnt he?
Yeah, your probably right. Most of the top rank of the Israeli government have probably had a change of heart over the past couple of years. I mean, it certainly looks like they've all recently become eligible for sainthood.
Yeah, your probably right. Most of the top rank of the Israeli government have probably had a change of heart over the past couple of years. I mean, it certainly looks like they've all recently become eligible for sainthood.
like I said, lets try and stick to the present instead of quoting advisors of former almost dead prime ministers.
Friday October 26, 2007 11:52 by Nisreen Qumsieh - IMEMC News& agencies nisreen at imemc dot org
One Palestinian was killed, and another four injured, as the Israeli military shelled ash-Shija'iyeh neighborhood of Gaza city on Friday morning.
Local sources reported that an Israeli military jet opened fire on a group of Palestinians, killing Mohammad Hasnounah, 22, and injuring other four others.
Hasnounah is the fourth Palestinian to be killed by Israeli forces on Friday.'
Friday October 26, 2007 11:52 by Nisreen Qumsieh - IMEMC News& agencies nisreen at imemc dot org
One Palestinian was killed, and another four injured, as the Israeli military shelled ash-Shija'iyeh neighborhood of Gaza city on Friday morning.
Local sources reported that an Israeli military jet opened fire on a group of Palestinians, killing Mohammad Hasnounah, 22, and injuring other four others.
Hasnounah is the fourth Palestinian to be killed by Israeli forces on Friday.'
and this was in response to rocket attacks launched into Israel..
A few years back this topic was discussed on this board just like it is now. What you realise is that it goes no where.
My dads parents are 1949 refugees to Lebanon. He was born on the border while his parents were fleeing. I got accused of lying about it back then.
My mother is actually Lebanese and lives in Lebanon now and she experienced the attack last year, so did all her extended family. I went there in December and saw some of the damage that was caused. People fail to see that the Israelis struck deep into Christian areas. Areas which back in the civil war were sided with the Israelis. How do they explain their attacks? "Hizbullah presence"? Then you take a look at the number of Lebanese civilians killed compared to the number of Hizbullah fighters killed.. you compare that with the number of Israeli military personnel killed compared to their civilians and you wonder how Hizbullah were able to kill a higher ratio of military with their unsophisticated weaponry (relative to the Israelis). Then you wonder about striking the electric power plant in its oil depots contaminating all of the Lebanese coast when they could of simply struck any other region in the plant if they wanted to disable it. I can go on forever...
As a person whose origin is from that region I am not that optimistic. And its really sad because its so rich and beautiful.
Robert Fisk once mentioned thats there is a lot going on in the background that normal civilians dont know about. He interviewed a leader from Hamas once and the guy told him that both Hamas and Israeli goverment officials meet and discuss occasionally but they do it in secrecy because they both need to keep their appearances to their public.
A few years back this topic was discussed on this board just like it is now. What you realise is that it goes no where.
My dads parents are 1949 refugees to Lebanon. He was born on the border while his parents were fleeing. I got accused of lying about it back then.
My mother is actually Lebanese and lives in Lebanon now and she experienced the attack last year, so did all her extended family. I went there in December and saw some of the damage that was caused. People fail to see that the Israelis struck deep into Christian areas. Areas which back in the civil war were sided with the Israelis. How do they explain their attacks? "Hizbullah presence"? Then you take a look at the number of Lebanese civilians killed compared to the number of Hizbullah fighters killed.. you compare that with the number of Israeli military personnel killed compared to their civilians and you wonder how Hizbullah were able to kill a higher ratio of military with their unsophisticated weaponry (relative to the Israelis). Then you wonder about striking the electric power plant in its oil depots contaminating all of the Lebanese coast when they could of simply struck any other region in the plant if they wanted to disable it. I can go on forever...
As a person whose origin is from that region I am not that optimistic. And its really sad because its so rich and beautiful.
Robert Fisk once mentioned thats there is a lot going on in the background that normal civilians dont know about. He interviewed a leader from Hamas once and the guy told him that both Hamas and Israeli goverment officials meet and discuss occasionally but they do it in secrecy because they both need to keep their appearances to their public.
You're right. It goes nowhere. But I still can't sit back and tolerate people spouting lies, and half-truths, and even blatantly cheering the main catalyst in all of this. Someone needs to ping this bullshit back at them.
A few years back this topic was discussed on this board just like it is now. What you realise is that it goes no where.
My dads parents are 1949 refugees to Lebanon. He was born on the border while his parents were fleeing. I got accused of lying about it back then.
My mother is actually Lebanese and lives in Lebanon now and she experienced the attack last year, so did all her extended family. I went there in December and saw some of the damage that was caused. People fail to see that the Israelis struck deep into Christian areas. Areas which back in the civil war were sided with the Israelis. How do they explain their attacks? "Hizbullah presence"? Then you take a look at the number of Lebanese civilians killed compared to the number of Hizbullah fighters killed.. you compare that with the number of Israeli military personnel killed compared to their civilians and you wonder how Hizbullah were able to kill a higher ratio of military with their unsophisticated weaponry (relative to the Israelis). Then you wonder about striking the electric power plant in its oil depots contaminating all of the Lebanese coast when they could of simply struck any other region in the plant if they wanted to disable it. I can go on forever...
As a person whose origin is from that region I am not that optimistic. And its really sad because its so rich and beautiful.
Robert Fisk once mentioned thats there is a lot going on in the background that normal civilians dont know about. He interviewed a leader from Hamas once and the guy told him that both Hamas and Israeli goverment officials meet and discuss occasionally but they do it in secrecy because they both need to keep their appearances to their public.
and this is one of the exact reasons why I dislike Israel. they hit back much too aggressively
Frustrated by near-daily rocket attacks from the Hamas-controlled strip Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Thursday approved cutting off electricity to Gaza for steadily increasing periods every time rockets hit Israel, in the hope that residents would pressure militants to halt the attacks. He gave no timeline for implementing the measure.
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I think the following comment answers your lame attempt at defending Israeli terrorism quite nicely...
"The significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process...prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on refugees, the borders, and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda.."
Israeli PM Ariel Sharon's senior advisor Dov Weisglass during an interview published in Ha'aretz newspaper Friday magazine, Oct 8th, 2004.
how about we deal with the present? that was over 3 years ago. and who knows if this 1 statement was taken out of context or what. who knows. lots of....in there.
I dont believe either of these guys have any influence on whats happening today. sharon is practically dead isnt he?
Yeah, your probably right. Most of the top rank of the Israeli government have probably had a change of heart over the past couple of years. I mean, it certainly looks like they've all recently become eligible for sainthood.
like I said, lets try and stick to the present instead of quoting advisors of former almost dead prime ministers.
O.k...
http://www.imemc.org/article/51101
'One Palestinian killed, four injured, as Israeli army shells Gaza
Friday October 26, 2007 11:52 by Nisreen Qumsieh - IMEMC News& agencies nisreen at imemc dot org
One Palestinian was killed, and another four injured, as the Israeli military shelled ash-Shija'iyeh neighborhood of Gaza city on Friday morning.
Local sources reported that an Israeli military jet opened fire on a group of Palestinians, killing Mohammad Hasnounah, 22, and injuring other four others.
Hasnounah is the fourth Palestinian to be killed by Israeli forces on Friday.'
and this was in response to rocket attacks launched into Israel..
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/world/middleeast/08mideast.html
No it wasn't. Your article is dated Oct. 7.
A few years back this topic was discussed on this board just like it is now. What you realise is that it goes no where.
My dads parents are 1949 refugees to Lebanon. He was born on the border while his parents were fleeing. I got accused of lying about it back then.
My mother is actually Lebanese and lives in Lebanon now and she experienced the attack last year, so did all her extended family. I went there in December and saw some of the damage that was caused. People fail to see that the Israelis struck deep into Christian areas. Areas which back in the civil war were sided with the Israelis. How do they explain their attacks? "Hizbullah presence"? Then you take a look at the number of Lebanese civilians killed compared to the number of Hizbullah fighters killed.. you compare that with the number of Israeli military personnel killed compared to their civilians and you wonder how Hizbullah were able to kill a higher ratio of military with their unsophisticated weaponry (relative to the Israelis). Then you wonder about striking the electric power plant in its oil depots contaminating all of the Lebanese coast when they could of simply struck any other region in the plant if they wanted to disable it. I can go on forever...
As a person whose origin is from that region I am not that optimistic. And its really sad because its so rich and beautiful.
Robert Fisk once mentioned thats there is a lot going on in the background that normal civilians dont know about. He interviewed a leader from Hamas once and the guy told him that both Hamas and Israeli goverment officials meet and discuss occasionally but they do it in secrecy because they both need to keep their appearances to their public.
You're right. It goes nowhere. But I still can't sit back and tolerate people spouting lies, and half-truths, and even blatantly cheering the main catalyst in all of this. Someone needs to ping this bullshit back at them.
and this is one of the exact reasons why I dislike Israel. they hit back much too aggressively
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071026/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians
Frustrated by near-daily rocket attacks from the Hamas-controlled strip Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Thursday approved cutting off electricity to Gaza for steadily increasing periods every time rockets hit Israel, in the hope that residents would pressure militants to halt the attacks. He gave no timeline for implementing the measure.