Hilary Clinton proposes 401(k)s, matching funds

gue_barium

onelongsong wrote:

what is money? people here aren't old enough to remember money as it should be. they've accepted paper as having worth.
here's an example. let's say you got a gold coin in 1880 worth $10.00. in 1900 the price of gold is up and that coin is now worth $15.00. in 1960 someone gave you a $10.00 bill; it's now worth maybe $7.00.
this is why i convert paper to gold. the price may vary but your money will always make a profit. gold i bought in the 1970's for $280.00/ oz is now worth close to $1000/oz.

i think the people control the market. someone decided a 25 cent cup of coffee was worth $5.00 and people paid the price. it's the same for anything else. if people are willing to pay that price; that sets the market.

Yeah.

I just hate the "I'm white and repentent" types.

SilverSeed

gue_barium wrote:

Hmmph. You come on board on this topic saying what a privileged White man you are, the implication being that economic hardship equals Non-white folks, therefore, that's what this is about.

I have a problem with you making a dollar and cents issue into a racial one. In the same fell swoop you bring an American issue into the spectrum of those few men around "the world" who are extremely wealthy and "white."

My point about being a white male was concerning my own views in how wealth should be divided, when confronted with the well thought out "Its my money bitches!" argument. Race certainly is not an issue here, anyone with the requisite amount of money outlined in the program should pay.

I think you're getting lost in language:

In the same fell swoop you bring an American issue into the spectrum of those few men around "the world" who are extremely wealthy and "white."

I am bringing my own context to an American issue. What is this spectrum of worldwide rich white males? And how did I bring anything into it? Certainly past American systematic repression warrants current legislation to see it doesn't happen again.

(Why so many quotations? We know what white means, and what the world is)

SilverSeed

gue_barium wrote:

Yeah.

I just hate the "I'm white and repentent" types.

Damn from getting upset about apparent rudeness to hate now. You're an interesting character...

inmytree

SilverSeed wrote:

Damn from getting upset about apparent rudeness to hate now. You're an interesting character...

you learn quickly...:D

it's funny, some will keep going and going and going...like a broken record...

you just happened to meet that "some" today...

gue_barium

inmytree wrote:

you learn quickly...:D

it's funny, some will keep going and going and going...like a broken record...

you just happened to meet that "some" today...

I'm no broken record.

It's just apparent that to some posters in this thread that the Clinton proposition seems like a racially motivated vote-getting scheme that some think are fair and others think are just political.

This board has a lot of stupid people. I'm not one of them.

jlew24asu

I beg to differ

Kel Varnsen

onelongsong wrote:

what is money? people here aren't old enough to remember money as it should be. they've accepted paper as having worth.
here's an example. let's say you got a gold coin in 1880 worth $10.00. in 1900 the price of gold is up and that coin is now worth $15.00. in 1960 someone gave you a $10.00 bill; it's now worth maybe $7.00.
this is why i convert paper to gold. the price may vary but your money will always make a profit. gold i bought in the 1970's for $280.00/ oz is now worth close to $1000/oz.

Actually I hate to break it to you but I saw this interesting article in the paper today today about how gold prices no longer keep rising with inflation.

Forget the golden rule about bullion

inmytree

gue_barium wrote:

I'm no broken record.

It's just apparent that to some posters in this thread that the Clinton proposition seems like a racially motivated vote-getting scheme that some think are fair and others think are just political.

This board has a lot of stupid people. I'm not one of them.

who said I was referring to you...feeling guilty...?

SilverSeed

gue_barium wrote:

I'm no broken record.

It's just apparent that to some posters in this thread that the Clinton proposition seems like a racially motivated vote-getting scheme that some think are fair and others think are just political.

This board has a lot of stupid people. I'm not one of them.

And again! Anger at my saying you ask stupid questions turns into calling others stupid.

Let's go take a nap and come back to this after some cocoa.

gue_barium

inmytree wrote:

who said I was referring to you...feeling guilty...?

You replied to a post via a reply to me.

inmytree

gue_barium wrote:

You replied to a post via a reply to me.

All I know is somebody said something about being "white" and it was mentioned over and over and over and over....and over again...

was that you...?

gue_barium

SilverSeed wrote:

And again! Anger at my saying you ask stupid questions turns into calling others stupid.

Let's go take a nap and come back to this after some cocoa.

No anger here.

gue_barium

inmytree wrote:

All I know is somebody said something about being "white" and it was mentioned over and over and over and over....and over again...

was that you...?

Well, as suspected, you don't know much. I mean, all you gotta do is look at the freaking thread.

gue_barium

Btw, I'm not "white."

Just to be clear.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

I have no idea what is being argued about now.

gue_barium

MrSmith wrote:

I have no idea what is being argued about now.

That's right.

inmytree

gue_barium wrote:

Well, as suspected, you don't know much. I mean, all you gotta do is look at the freaking thread.

I did

I did

I did

I did...

onelongsong

SilverSeed wrote:

Damn from getting upset about apparent rudeness to hate now. You're an interesting character...

he's just got it out for me for some reason. i don't know why but i don't hold it against him. some day he'll PM me and we'll work it out. for right now; the hate is directed at me.

gue_barium

onelongsong wrote:

he's just got it out for me for some reason. i don't know why but i don't hold it against him. some day he'll PM me and we'll work it out. for right now; the hate is directed at me.

I wasn't directing it at you, dude. I have no hate for you. I have no hate for anyone in particular. I hate some of the "types" of thinking here. Well, I hate it in most political proccesses, especially when you get no-brains like you-know-who into the mix. And that's inevitable.

onelongsong

gue_barium wrote:

I'm no broken record.

It's just apparent that to some posters in this thread that the Clinton proposition seems like a racially motivated vote-getting scheme that some think are fair and others think are just political.

This board has a lot of stupid people. I'm not one of them.

come on gue. we all see that hillary is playing robin hood and wants to take from the rich and give to the [minority] poor. she's buying votes. promising minorities money if they vote for her.
i have a lot of doctors and i consider all of them rich. they flaunt it quite well. not one is white though. most are indian and 2 are black. the indian doctors send their money back to india. how does hillary's plan work when the wealthy send money out of the country? it doesn't. her plan only takes money from americans who keep their money in the country; not americans who send their money back to their native countries.