dont say that or she will call you a raving anti -meixcan
First off I'm a he. Second Fanch has not said anything remotely negative about Central/South Americans. I call you that because all of you threads/posts here attempt to portray Central/South Americans, especially Mexicans, in a negative manner.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
First off I'm a he. Second Fanch has not said anything remotely negative about Central/South Americans. I call you that because all of you threads/posts here attempt to portray Central/South Americans, especially Mexicans, in a negative manner.
well to tell you the truth i dont much want to travel to mexico unless it changed --costa rica i think id like ok and possibly puerto rico and spain i like
maybe i should leve a post about the dawn wilson case
i wonder if you hate anglos and so you look for hate in others to justify your hate?
so i ask: have you hated anglos?
do you think the minutemen are evil? of course 20% of them are hispanics too and blacks
That's easy to explain. If you live in a community that is predominant Polish, Russian, or Central/South American you will probably run into many small family owned business where employees don't necessarily speak english. Should they try harder to learn English, or course, but many times these people live in a community where their native tongue is widely spoken. I saw it a lot growing up in Newark, NJ. The area I grew up in was mostly Portuguese and there where plenty of little stores where the counter person didn't speak english because 99.9% of their clientel was Portuguese. That's what you have in South Florida. I still believe that these people should make the effort to learn the language simply because it will open up many opportunites for them.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
well to tell you the truth i dont much want to travel to mexico unless it changed --costa rica i think id like ok and possibly puerto rico and spain i like
maybe i should leve a post about the dawn wilson case
i wonder if you hate anglos and so you look for hate in others to justify your hate?
so i ask: have you hated anglos?
do you think the minutemen are evil? of course 20% of them are hispanics too and blacks
i really wanna meet you someday. i dont know if it's just the way you write, but you seem crazy as a bedbug. you can't possibly be this incomprehensible in real life? your grasp of english seems pretty poor yourself... or maybe it's just an inability to formulate logical written argument.
well to tell you the truth i dont much want to travel to mexico unless it changed --costa rica i think id like ok and possibly puerto rico and spain i like
maybe i should leve a post about the dawn wilson case
i wonder if you hate anglos and so you look for hate in others to justify your hate?
so i ask: have you hated anglos?
do you think the minutemen are evil? of course 20% of them are hispanics too and blacks
I don't judge people by the race, ethnicity, country or origin, or religion. The only anglo I don't like right now is my soon to be ex-wife because she is making my life a living hell, but that has nothing to do with her skin color. I have mixed feelings about the Minutemen but most of it has to do with over-sight. I like to look at people and embrace their diversity and see the good that their ethnicity, race, religion, etc... has to offer. I don't focus on the negative statistics of their race, ethnicity, religion, etc...
By the way i've been to Costa Rica twice. it's a beautifull country. I actually have a friend who lives there now and as soon as my hellish divorce is finalized I plan of taking a little sabatical there for a week or two.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
That's easy to explain. If you live in a community that is predominant Polish, Russian, or Central/South American you will probably run into many small family owned business where employees don't necessarily speak english. Should they try harder to learn English, or course, but many times these people live in a community where their native tongue is widely spoken. I saw it a lot growing up in Newark, NJ. The area I grew up in was mostly Portuguese and there where plenty of little stores where the counter person didn't speak english because 99.9% of their clientel was Portuguese. That's what you have in South Florida. I still believe that these people should make the effort to learn the language simply because it will open up many opportunites for them.
I think most of these people do in fact make the effort. But second language acquisition in a area where that language isn't the first language, often goes hand in hand with fossilisation in that second language i.e. they learn enough to get by. They are not stimulated by their enivorment to learn more. If they want to buy something in the grocery store a few words and the basics will do. These guys don't need to know how to make a complex sentence to get by, vocabulary will take them a long way.
I think most of these people do in fact make the effort. But second language acquisition in a area where that language isn't the first language, often goes hand in hand with fossilisation in that second language i.e. they learn enough to get by. They are not stimulated by their enivorment to learn more. If they want to buy something in the grocery store a few words and the basics will do. These guys don't need to know how to make a complex sentence to get by, vocabulary will take them a long way.
I agree.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
That's easy to explain. If you live in a community that is predominant Polish, Russian, or Central/South American you will probably run into many small family owned business where employees don't necessarily speak english. Should they try harder to learn English, or course, but many times these people live in a community where their native tongue is widely spoken. I saw it a lot growing up in Newark, NJ. The area I grew up in was mostly Portuguese and there where plenty of little stores where the counter person didn't speak english because 99.9% of their clientel was Portuguese. That's what you have in South Florida. I still believe that these people should make the effort to learn the language simply because it will open up many opportunites for them.
i've found that in families where the parents speak english; no matter how broken or bad; the children speak english and learn it much better. in my family; the adults spoke polish only when they didn't want us to know what they're saying. after english was mastered; we then were taught polish.
The only anglo I don't like right now is my soon to be ex-wife because she is making my life a living hell, but that has nothing to do with her skin color.
By the way i've been to Costa Rica twice. it's a beautifull country. I actually have a friend who lives there now and as soon as my hellish divorce is finalized I plan of taking a little sabatical there for a week or two.
I don't judge people by the race, ethnicity, country or origin, or religion. The only anglo I don't like right now is my soon to be ex-wife because she is making my life a living hell, but that has nothing to do with her skin color. I have mixed feelings about the Minutemen but most of it has to do with over-sight. I like to look at people and embrace their diversity and see the good that their ethnicity, race, religion, etc... has to offer. I don't focus on the negative statistics of their race, ethnicity, religion, etc...
By the way i've been to Costa Rica twice. it's a beautifull country. I actually have a friend who lives there now and as soon as my hellish divorce is finalized I plan of taking a little sabatical there for a week or two.
so we have something in common after all
i want to learn spanish - i bought a course but its slow going ,also french
im supposed to be part indian so i can understand the past and how usa forced english on natives and i think its sick -they beat them- same as in canada
but i suppose id make english official,id let indians teach in all indian languages and supply the funds if wanted
as for spanish only funds for them holding green cards and here leaglly i guess
but you cannot stop an idea whose time has come (someone famous said that). it just takes long, patient effort. the annoying thing about liberals is they dont want to do that, they want things their way NOW.
Right....that's why republicans would rather build a billion dollar fence than work towards fixing the social problems that create the need for that fence. They just want things their way NOW.
What you're doing is confusing the differences between the time it takes for an idea to be convincing, and the time it takes for people to let go of their fear of change. Those two things are not the same. That's your lesson for today.
Right....that's why republicans would rather build a billion dollar fence than work towards fixing the social problems that create the need for that fence. They just want things their way NOW.
What you're doing is confusing the differences between the time it takes for an idea to be convincing, and the time it takes for people to let go of their fear of change. Those two things are not the same. That's your lesson for today.
im not a republican and i think that fence is the dumbest idea i've ever heard.
those two things happen simultaneously. as the idea become convincing, the people who fear it dwindle. this is the way the world works. you must be 18 or 19 or so to think with such naive ideology.
this is the way the world works. you must be 18 or 19 or so to think with such naive ideology
Correct...I'd be naive to think it isn't the way the world works. But, it is the way the world has worked, it is isn't impossible for that to change.
And, as you've said before, the observance of ethnic culture is dwindling at no real price to progress. So, again, you just succeed repeatedly at contradicting yourself.
Correct...I'd be naive to think it isn't the way the world works. But, it is the way the world has worked, it is isn't impossible for that to change.
And, as you've said before, the observance of ethnic culture is dwindling at no real price to progress. So, again, you just succeed repeatedly at contradicting yourself.
i meant you're naive to think somehow if we stop talking about ethniciy then prejudice and discrimination will disappear. they won't. we'll find ways around it. and ethnicity is only lessening in importance in america becos of the melting pot. there's this little country in iraq... they still take ethnicity pretty serious there. or the middle east. or france. you cannot eradicate something that is genetically ingrained.
i meant you're naive to think somehow if we stop talking about ethniciy then prejudice and discrimination will disappear. they won't. we'll find ways around it. and ethnicity is only lessening in importance in america becos of the melting pot. there's this little country in iraq... they still take ethnicity pretty serious there. or the middle east. or france. you cannot eradicate something that is genetically ingrained.
Now you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say discrmination would disappear. I said it's the first battle of an extended war, and one that is one of the more detrimental to people caught on the wrong side of it.
I say yes, and at the same time, to graduate jr high, you need at least one semester of a foreign language, and to graduate high school, you need at least two semesters of a foreign language.
If we keep things the way they are, then why spent money on english as a second language, lol ... this is just a joke!
"Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)
Now you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say discrmination would disappear. I said it's the first battle of an extended war, and one that is one of the more detrimental to people caught on the wrong side of it.
which is why we have title vii. dont worry, your job is safe.
all those other countries and mexico have no stinkin fence(we dont need no stinkin fence!!) and yet pretty much enforce immigration laws
mexico has lots of billionares ,mexicans pay 17% tax i think
they pay less and get less
the rich rip off the poor ,but maybe they want to pay little tax
i dont know who to blame
maybe maximillian would have been a better emperor or maybe not
i dont like how foriegnors come here and have tons of kids at our expense while stupid american liberals have few if any and feel they owe them something
which is why we have title vii. dont worry, your job is safe.
Nearly impossible to prove in a court of law unless the discrimination is practically constant and practiced in front of witnesses. Any workplace discrimination lawyer will tell you this. This explains why you never answered my question about your work experience. U prolly don't have much.
Nearly impossible to prove in a court of law unless the discrimination is practically constant and practiced in front of witnesses. Any workplace discrimination lawyer will tell you this. This explains why you never answered my question about your work experience. U prolly don't have much.
ive worked since i was 16 in a variety of environments, but was never discriminated against. however, in addition to my work experience, i have spent most of this semester at law school studying employment law and title vii in particular. i think if someone asked if you were a snobbish jap and then fired you, you'd have a pretty decent case.
ive worked since i was 16 in a variety of environments, but was never discriminated against. however, in addition to my work experience, i have spent most of this semester at law school studying employment law and title vii in particular. i think if someone asked if you were a snobbish jap and then fired you, you'd have a pretty decent case.
A decent case with no witnesses except for myself? I doubt she'd be honest about it if looking at a lawsuit.
and if she was a COWORKER she doesn't have the power to fire you.
But she is a manager with the power to shape the opinions of my co-workers, who might also harbor the same preconceptions about certain cultures. I say she is a co-worker because she doesn't have direct authority over me, and we sometimes work together. Even if she wasn't a manager, she could still have social influence amongst the office sewing circles.
As a matter of fact, another co-worker of mine mysteriously knew that I am half japanese. We were talking about foreign languages, and he goes, "So you probably speak japanese then?" Word gets around. Of course, he didn't call me snotty.
But she is a manager with the power to shape the opinions of my co-workers, who might also harbor the same preconceptions about certain cultures. I say she is a co-worker because she doesn't have direct authority over me, and we sometimes work together. Even if she wasn't a manager, she could still have social influence amongst the office sewing circles.
if your office sewing circle (which sounds like every bit as much of a derogative generality as snobbish japanese) is so easily influenced that one prejudiced manager can turn the whole office against you becos they're all secretly latent racists... maybe you should be finding a new job anyway?
oooorrrrr... maybe it was a reasonable question from someone who was just trying to make conversation and in reality might have some stereotypes in her mind but is in no way, shape, or form prejudiced and never even considered demoting you or letting the ideas influence her judgment of your work and your job was never in any jeopardy beyond that which your hyper-sensitive, overly-PC imagination lead you to believe was the inevitable result of the racist persecution you had to suffer in that inane water cooler chat.
oooorrrrr... maybe it was a reasonable question from someone who was just trying to make conversation and in reality might have some stereotypes in her mind but is in no way, shape, or form prejudiced and never even considered demoting you or letting the ideas influence her judgment of your work and your job was never in any jeopardy beyond that which your hyper-sensitive, overly-PC imagination lead you to believe was the inevitable result of the racist persecution you had to suffer in that inane water cooler chat.
im going with option b.
She thinks the japanese culture is snotty. You think that's a steretype that bears no prejudice? I think you're just trying to minimize the reality of the situation by playing into the many "what if's" that any person with enough time on their hands can play out on a message board. It's no less suppositional than anything said thus far, so while you might prefer option b over a, there is nothing substantially evident for you to base that preference on with any real sense of objectivity.
She thinks the japanese culture is snotty. You think that's a steretype that bears no prejudice? I think you're just trying to minimize the reality of the situation by playing into the many "what if's" that any person with enough time on their hands can play out on a message board. It's no less suppositional than anything said thus far, so while you might prefer option b over a, there is nothing substantially evident for you to base that preference on with any real sense of objectivity.
then if it's option a, maybe you should change jobs. if the work environment is soo hostile to you because of your heritage, maybe you should go work elsewhere. and then when you get there you can make prejudicial comments about the office sewing circle.
then if it's option a, maybe you should change jobs. if the work environment is soo hostile to you because of your heritage, maybe you should go work elsewhere. and then when you get there you can make prejudicial comments about the office sewing circle.
You know little of office politics if you believe they don't exist.
And, again, you're putting more words in my mouth. I did not say that I am being discrminated against. I said I was asked a closed-minded question that made me concerned. You have this tendency to paint a polarized view onto my posts so you have a bigger target for you to take aim at. It's sloppy character asssassination. Is that what they've been teaching you in law school?
You know little of office politics if you believe they don't exist.
And, again, you're putting more words in my mouth. I did not say that I am being discrminated against. I said I was asked a closed-minded question that made me concerned. You have this tendency to paint a polarized view onto my posts so you have a bigger target for you to take aim at. It's sloppy character asssassination. Is that what they've been teaching you in law school?
attack credibility first
and i think the only close-minded part of it was her saying she finds the japanese snobbish on the whole. her initial question seemed utterly reasonable to me. as did the guy asking if you speak 2 languages. i dont think you have any idea how sheltered white americans are... as a child i didnt see a black man until i was about 5 and promptly asked my dad why the man was chocolate. if you grow up in a lily-white suburb, people from different backgrounds are fascinating, cos you dont get to meet many people but other WASPS. on top of that, i think a lot of those questions are driven by jealousy, becos white americans really have no such heritage to claim as their own and most of them seem to miss it. it's why i've taken such a keen interest in my irish ancestry. we dont have that, so we live vicariously through people that might have a closer connection to their history. there's a great quote in the good sheperd about how the italians have family and the church, the irish have their homeland, and the blacks have their music, then he asks the wasp "what dyou have?" his only response is "i have the united state of america, the rest of you are just passing through." that really is how bankrupt suburban culture is... they have no sense of identity and it shows in their obsession with the identity of others.
perhaps this is an opportunity for you to show her that any such perceptions about the japanese as snobbish are wrong, instead of copping an attitude and acting like they're all idiots for even thinking to ask about your heritage. cos acting like you are superior to all those other "close-minded" people is... well... kinda snobbish.
and i think the only close-minded part of it was her saying she finds the japanese snobbish on the whole. her initial question seemed utterly reasonable to me. as did the guy asking if you speak 2 languages. i dont think you have any idea how sheltered white americans are... as a child i didnt see a black man until i was about 5 and promptly asked my dad why the man was chocolate. if you grow up in a lily-white suburb, people from different backgrounds are fascinating, cos you dont get to meet many people but other WASPS. on top of that, i think a lot of those questions are driven by jealousy, becos white americans really have no such heritage to claim as their own and most of them seem to miss it. it's why i've taken such a keen interest in my irish ancestry. we dont have that, so we live vicariously through people that might have a closer connection to their history. there's a great quote in the good sheperd about how the italians have family and the church, the irish have their homeland, and the blacks have their music, then he asks the wasp "what dyou have?" his only response is "i have the united state of america, the rest of you are just passing through." that really is how bankrupt suburban culture is... they have no sense of identity and it shows in their obsession with the identity of others.
perhaps this is an opportunity for you to show her that any such perceptions about the japanese as snobbish are wrong, instead of copping an attitude and acting like they're all idiots for even thinking to ask about your heritage. cos acting like you are superior to all those other "close-minded" people is... well... kinda snobbish.
Wow, that really is a pompous point of view. I hate saying that because I find myself to be pompous quite often. But, you really think you have some kind of profound insight on how I should view the people I am surrounded by.
In any other context, I would exercise the same kind of relaxed acceptance of inferred prejudice that you so arrogantly preach. But, this concerns my livelihood. It concerns my career. It concerns matters that warrant the extra special attention that I give it. You don't seem to be keen to that yet. Maybe when you graduate from your character assassination school and start building a professional career, you'll understand the mindset that I am plagued by.
And for someone who is so open-minded about another person's prejudicical tendencies, the following statement made by you in regards to the "N" word in another thread is somewhat enigmatic:
regardless of whether or not they say, most people think it. or even if they dont think "nigger" they start making assumptions about the person's characteristics based on their looks. that's just human nature. it applies to blacks, mexicans, hicks, dumb blondes. we all form judgments based on people's external appearances.
So, based on skin color alone, most people think the "N" word. Is this one of those instances where people are just sheltered and are trying to start conversation?
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First off I'm a he. Second Fanch has not said anything remotely negative about Central/South Americans. I call you that because all of you threads/posts here attempt to portray Central/South Americans, especially Mexicans, in a negative manner.
that did answer my question. thank you. i agree.
well to tell you the truth i dont much want to travel to mexico unless it changed --costa rica i think id like ok and possibly puerto rico and spain i like
maybe i should leve a post about the dawn wilson case
i wonder if you hate anglos and so you look for hate in others to justify your hate?
so i ask: have you hated anglos?
do you think the minutemen are evil? of course 20% of them are hispanics too and blacks
http://groups.msn.com/PearlJamNirvana/messages.msnw
That's easy to explain. If you live in a community that is predominant Polish, Russian, or Central/South American you will probably run into many small family owned business where employees don't necessarily speak english. Should they try harder to learn English, or course, but many times these people live in a community where their native tongue is widely spoken. I saw it a lot growing up in Newark, NJ. The area I grew up in was mostly Portuguese and there where plenty of little stores where the counter person didn't speak english because 99.9% of their clientel was Portuguese. That's what you have in South Florida. I still believe that these people should make the effort to learn the language simply because it will open up many opportunites for them.
i really wanna meet you someday. i dont know if it's just the way you write, but you seem crazy as a bedbug. you can't possibly be this incomprehensible in real life? your grasp of english seems pretty poor yourself... or maybe it's just an inability to formulate logical written argument.
I don't judge people by the race, ethnicity, country or origin, or religion. The only anglo I don't like right now is my soon to be ex-wife because she is making my life a living hell, but that has nothing to do with her skin color. I have mixed feelings about the Minutemen but most of it has to do with over-sight. I like to look at people and embrace their diversity and see the good that their ethnicity, race, religion, etc... has to offer. I don't focus on the negative statistics of their race, ethnicity, religion, etc...
By the way i've been to Costa Rica twice. it's a beautifull country. I actually have a friend who lives there now and as soon as my hellish divorce is finalized I plan of taking a little sabatical there for a week or two.
I think most of these people do in fact make the effort. But second language acquisition in a area where that language isn't the first language, often goes hand in hand with fossilisation in that second language i.e. they learn enough to get by. They are not stimulated by their enivorment to learn more. If they want to buy something in the grocery store a few words and the basics will do. These guys don't need to know how to make a complex sentence to get by, vocabulary will take them a long way.
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I agree.
i've found that in families where the parents speak english; no matter how broken or bad; the children speak english and learn it much better. in my family; the adults spoke polish only when they didn't want us to know what they're saying. after english was mastered; we then were taught polish.
I'm tellin ya, dese whyte bytchez ain't shyt!
so we have something in common after all
i want to learn spanish - i bought a course but its slow going ,also french
im supposed to be part indian so i can understand the past and how usa forced english on natives and i think its sick -they beat them- same as in canada
but i suppose id make english official,id let indians teach in all indian languages and supply the funds if wanted
as for spanish only funds for them holding green cards and here leaglly i guess
http://groups.msn.com/PearlJamNirvana/messages.msnw
Right....that's why republicans would rather build a billion dollar fence than work towards fixing the social problems that create the need for that fence. They just want things their way NOW.
What you're doing is confusing the differences between the time it takes for an idea to be convincing, and the time it takes for people to let go of their fear of change. Those two things are not the same. That's your lesson for today.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
im not a republican and i think that fence is the dumbest idea i've ever heard.
those two things happen simultaneously. as the idea become convincing, the people who fear it dwindle. this is the way the world works. you must be 18 or 19 or so to think with such naive ideology.
Correct...I'd be naive to think it isn't the way the world works. But, it is the way the world has worked, it is isn't impossible for that to change.
And, as you've said before, the observance of ethnic culture is dwindling at no real price to progress. So, again, you just succeed repeatedly at contradicting yourself.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
i meant you're naive to think somehow if we stop talking about ethniciy then prejudice and discrimination will disappear. they won't. we'll find ways around it. and ethnicity is only lessening in importance in america becos of the melting pot. there's this little country in iraq... they still take ethnicity pretty serious there. or the middle east. or france. you cannot eradicate something that is genetically ingrained.
Now you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say discrmination would disappear. I said it's the first battle of an extended war, and one that is one of the more detrimental to people caught on the wrong side of it.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
If we keep things the way they are, then why spent money on english as a second language, lol ... this is just a joke!
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which is why we have title vii. dont worry, your job is safe.
mexico has lots of billionares ,mexicans pay 17% tax i think
they pay less and get less
the rich rip off the poor ,but maybe they want to pay little tax
i dont know who to blame
maybe maximillian would have been a better emperor or maybe not
i dont like how foriegnors come here and have tons of kids at our expense while stupid american liberals have few if any and feel they owe them something
i could go on and on but id just be called racist
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Nearly impossible to prove in a court of law unless the discrimination is practically constant and practiced in front of witnesses. Any workplace discrimination lawyer will tell you this. This explains why you never answered my question about your work experience. U prolly don't have much.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
ive worked since i was 16 in a variety of environments, but was never discriminated against. however, in addition to my work experience, i have spent most of this semester at law school studying employment law and title vii in particular. i think if someone asked if you were a snobbish jap and then fired you, you'd have a pretty decent case.
A decent case with no witnesses except for myself? I doubt she'd be honest about it if looking at a lawsuit.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
and if she was a COWORKER she doesn't have the power to fire you.
But she is a manager with the power to shape the opinions of my co-workers, who might also harbor the same preconceptions about certain cultures. I say she is a co-worker because she doesn't have direct authority over me, and we sometimes work together. Even if she wasn't a manager, she could still have social influence amongst the office sewing circles.
As a matter of fact, another co-worker of mine mysteriously knew that I am half japanese. We were talking about foreign languages, and he goes, "So you probably speak japanese then?" Word gets around. Of course, he didn't call me snotty.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
if your office sewing circle (which sounds like every bit as much of a derogative generality as snobbish japanese) is so easily influenced that one prejudiced manager can turn the whole office against you becos they're all secretly latent racists... maybe you should be finding a new job anyway?
oooorrrrr... maybe it was a reasonable question from someone who was just trying to make conversation and in reality might have some stereotypes in her mind but is in no way, shape, or form prejudiced and never even considered demoting you or letting the ideas influence her judgment of your work and your job was never in any jeopardy beyond that which your hyper-sensitive, overly-PC imagination lead you to believe was the inevitable result of the racist persecution you had to suffer in that inane water cooler chat.
im going with option b.
She thinks the japanese culture is snotty. You think that's a steretype that bears no prejudice? I think you're just trying to minimize the reality of the situation by playing into the many "what if's" that any person with enough time on their hands can play out on a message board. It's no less suppositional than anything said thus far, so while you might prefer option b over a, there is nothing substantially evident for you to base that preference on with any real sense of objectivity.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
then if it's option a, maybe you should change jobs. if the work environment is soo hostile to you because of your heritage, maybe you should go work elsewhere. and then when you get there you can make prejudicial comments about the office sewing circle.
You know little of office politics if you believe they don't exist.
And, again, you're putting more words in my mouth. I did not say that I am being discrminated against. I said I was asked a closed-minded question that made me concerned. You have this tendency to paint a polarized view onto my posts so you have a bigger target for you to take aim at. It's sloppy character asssassination. Is that what they've been teaching you in law school?
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
attack credibility first
and i think the only close-minded part of it was her saying she finds the japanese snobbish on the whole. her initial question seemed utterly reasonable to me. as did the guy asking if you speak 2 languages. i dont think you have any idea how sheltered white americans are... as a child i didnt see a black man until i was about 5 and promptly asked my dad why the man was chocolate. if you grow up in a lily-white suburb, people from different backgrounds are fascinating, cos you dont get to meet many people but other WASPS. on top of that, i think a lot of those questions are driven by jealousy, becos white americans really have no such heritage to claim as their own and most of them seem to miss it. it's why i've taken such a keen interest in my irish ancestry. we dont have that, so we live vicariously through people that might have a closer connection to their history. there's a great quote in the good sheperd about how the italians have family and the church, the irish have their homeland, and the blacks have their music, then he asks the wasp "what dyou have?" his only response is "i have the united state of america, the rest of you are just passing through." that really is how bankrupt suburban culture is... they have no sense of identity and it shows in their obsession with the identity of others.
perhaps this is an opportunity for you to show her that any such perceptions about the japanese as snobbish are wrong, instead of copping an attitude and acting like they're all idiots for even thinking to ask about your heritage. cos acting like you are superior to all those other "close-minded" people is... well... kinda snobbish.
Wow, that really is a pompous point of view. I hate saying that because I find myself to be pompous quite often. But, you really think you have some kind of profound insight on how I should view the people I am surrounded by.
In any other context, I would exercise the same kind of relaxed acceptance of inferred prejudice that you so arrogantly preach. But, this concerns my livelihood. It concerns my career. It concerns matters that warrant the extra special attention that I give it. You don't seem to be keen to that yet. Maybe when you graduate from your character assassination school and start building a professional career, you'll understand the mindset that I am plagued by.
And for someone who is so open-minded about another person's prejudicical tendencies, the following statement made by you in regards to the "N" word in another thread is somewhat enigmatic:
So, based on skin color alone, most people think the "N" word. Is this one of those instances where people are just sheltered and are trying to start conversation?
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