should the usa have one official language?

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    mammasan wrote:
    I'm aware of hispanic organizations with their hispanic power attitude, like Nation of Aztlan and the National Council of La Raza. These people are a minority though and 95% of hispanics pay them no mind. Just like 95% of Anglos pay the KKK no mind.

    very true; but look at all the media coverage the kkk gets and look at the uproar it caused here on the board. it only takes a spark to start a fire. look at the hatred and discrimination that 5% has caused. look at the fear that 5% has caused. you can see it on this board so imagine it on a national level. if hispanics start denouncing these organizations it would put them in a much better light. at this point in time; anyone carrying a mexican flag in america is a militant. it's not my doing but that's the way people think.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    onelongsong wrote:
    very true; but look at all the media coverage the kkk gets and look at the uproar it caused here on the board. it only takes a spark to start a fire. look at the hatred and discrimination that 5% has caused. look at the fear that 5% has caused. you can see it on this board so imagine it on a national level. if hispanics start denouncing these organizations it would put them in a much better light. at this point in time; anyone carrying a mexican flag in america is a militant. it's not my doing but that's the way people think.


    I guess hispanic don't openly denounce them because most hispanics don't even know that these organizations exist. Outside of California and the Southwest most hispanics have never heard of the Nation of Aztlan or the National Council of La Raza. I heard about the Nation of Aztlan because of Ravenna. Also these organizations don't have nearly a tenth of the membership of say the KKK or the national recognition. They are a small band of idiots. I'm sure that if more hispanics knew about them you would hear more hispanics speaking out against them.
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  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    I remember writing a paper against English-Only legislation in California in 1987 for a class. Obviously, this is not a new issue. I'm still against it or anything like it. In this day and age with the internet, and outsourcing, this type of political strategy is not conducive to thinking globally.
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    mammasan wrote:
    I guess hispanic don't openly denounce them because most hispanics don't even know that these organizations exist. Outside of California and the Southwest most hispanics have never heard of the Nation of Aztlan or the National Council of La Raza. I heard about the Nation of Aztlan because of Ravenna. Also these organizations don't have nearly a tenth of the membership of say the KKK or the national recognition. They are a small band of idiots. I'm sure that if more hispanics knew about them you would hear more hispanics speaking out against them.

    i heard about aztlan from revanna too. and about another from a neighbour that came here from LA. but i do agree with you.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    onelongsong wrote:
    i heard about aztlan from revanna too. and about another from a neighbour that came here from LA. but i do agree with you.

    I asked a few members of my family this weekend, including my parents, and my father was the only one who heard of any of the organizations. He knew about the National Council of La Raza. Like I said unlike the KKK these organizations do not have a national following or even national recognition.
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    I remember writing a paper against English-Only legislation in California in 1987 for a class. Obviously, this is not a new issue. I'm still against it or anything like it. In this day and age with the internet, and outsourcing, this type of political strategy is not conducive to thinking globally.

    maybe you didn't see this so i'll repost.
    arizona voted english as the official language of the state. i like to feel i'm responsable because i threatened a lawsuit and things moved very quickly. first; i was only taught english in school. if english is not the official language why was i taught it in school? i was discriminated against because i was not taught the other possible languages used in this country. second; because i don't speak spanish; the job market discriminates against me because without an official language; employers want bilingual people; thus the government is causing me to be discriminated against. thirdly; if we're going to accomidate spanish speaking people; we must also accomodate those others speaking their own languages. so i demanded the option to press 3 for polish. otherwise; they'd be discriminating against me because they accomodate one people and not another.
    so the options are to either legislate an official language or waste billions in tax dollars accomodating all languages. and believe me; your taxes will increase dramatically for government services. the constitution backs me as we must be equal to all.
    anyway; to answer your question; yes; america needs an official language.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    onelongsong wrote:
    very true; but look at all the media coverage the kkk gets and look at the uproar it caused here on the board. it only takes a spark to start a fire. look at the hatred and discrimination that 5% has caused. look at the fear that 5% has caused. you can see it on this board so imagine it on a national level. if hispanics start denouncing these organizations it would put them in a much better light. at this point in time; anyone carrying a mexican flag in america is a militant. it's not my doing but that's the way people think.
    How much time do you spend denouncing the KKK? I know that I spend virtually no time at all, nor does any "anglo" group that I can think of. When the topic comes up, I make jokes about their intelligence and their breeding, roll my eyes, and move on to the next topic.

    If they started to regain any sort of real political power and it looked like they might actually accomplish any of their lunatic goals, obviously the strategy would have to change, but for now I think to denounce them only lends them legitimacy. It implies that they are a force that needs to be reckoned with, and they're not. My guess is that the sane majority of the Hispanic population feels the same way about these fanatic Mexican groups.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    hippiemom wrote:
    How much time do you spend denouncing the KKK? I know that I spend virtually no time at all, nor does any "anglo" group that I can think of. When the topic comes up, I make jokes about their intelligence and their breeding, roll my eyes, and move on to the next topic.

    If they started to regain any sort of real political power and it looked like they might actually accomplish any of their lunatic goals, obviously the strategy would have to change, but for now I think to denounce them only lends them legitimacy. It implies that they are a force that needs to be reckoned with, and they're not. My guess is that the sane majority of the Hispanic population feels the same way about these fanatic Mexican groups.

    Or maybe that's what we want you to think. Kill Whitey!!!
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    mammasan wrote:
    Or maybe that's what we want you to think. Kill Whitey!!!
    Is this going to be like one of those zombie movies, where we're all going to wake up one day and our formerly peaceful Hispanic neighbors will be wandering the streets armed to the teeth, mowing us down left and right?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • yoke
    yoke Posts: 1,440
    Yes, The United States of America should have English as the official language.
    Thats a lovely accent you have. New Jersey?

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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    mammasan wrote:
    Or maybe that's what we want you to think. Kill Whitey!!!
    Oh, and one more thing .... are you in cahoots with other groups, or is this strictly a Hispanic thing? I need to know whether I should also be terrified of blacks and Asians and so on, or if you'll be killing them too. Thanks!
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    hippiemom wrote:
    Oh, and one more thing .... are you in cahoots with other groups, or is this strictly a Hispanic thing? I need to know whether I should also be terrified of blacks and Asians and so on, or if you'll be killing them too. Thanks!


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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    hippiemom wrote:
    Oh, and one more thing .... are you in cahoots with other groups, or is this strictly a Hispanic thing? I need to know whether I should also be terrified of blacks and Asians and so on, or if you'll be killing them too. Thanks!

    Well I don't know about our leadership but as far as I'm concerned it's only Whitey I'm gunning for. And to answer your other question, yes the whole think will be very Night of the Living Dead like. Did you know that George Romero is half Cuban. He was laying out the master plan right before your eyes.
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  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    onelongsong wrote:
    maybe you didn't see this so i'll repost.
    arizona voted english as the official language of the state. i like to feel i'm responsable because i threatened a lawsuit and things moved very quickly. first; i was only taught english in school. if english is not the official language why was i taught it in school? i was discriminated against because i was not taught the other possible languages used in this country. second; because i don't speak spanish; the job market discriminates against me because without an official language; employers want bilingual people; thus the government is causing me to be discriminated against. thirdly; if we're going to accomidate spanish speaking people; we must also accomodate those others speaking their own languages. so i demanded the option to press 3 for polish. otherwise; they'd be discriminating against me because they accomodate one people and not another.
    so the options are to either legislate an official language or waste billions in tax dollars accomodating all languages. and believe me; your taxes will increase dramatically for government services. the constitution backs me as we must be equal to all.
    anyway; to answer your question; yes; america needs an official language.
    That's too bad to hear. Your enthusiasm about only thinking of yourself saddens me.

    I don't know why you were only taught English in school. It should be English and at least 2 other languages like many European countries. I don't see a 2+2=4 equation that since you only speak English then the job market discriminates against you. Multi-lingualism means a person can speak to more people. Why would someone want to hire you as opposed to someone that can speak many languages if the position calls for a mulit-lingual person? If only this country embraced multi-lingualism . . . that would be something good! I would pay for increased taxes if it meant that the next generation was thinking more globally and less selfishly.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    mammasan wrote:
    Well I don't know about our leadership but as far as I'm concerned it's only Whitey I'm gunning for. And to answer your other question, yes the whole think will be very Night of the Living Dead like. Did you know that George Romero is half Cuban. He was laying out the master plan right before your eyes.
    No chance for amnesty? My best friend is from Panama! My first boyfriend in junior high was Puerto Rican! I speak a little Spanish! Just tossing it out there, can't hurt, right?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    hippiemom wrote:
    How much time do you spend denouncing the KKK? I know that I spend virtually no time at all, nor does any "anglo" group that I can think of. When the topic comes up, I make jokes about their intelligence and their breeding, roll my eyes, and move on to the next topic.

    If they started to regain any sort of real political power and it looked like they might actually accomplish any of their lunatic goals, obviously the strategy would have to change, but for now I think to denounce them only lends them legitimacy. It implies that they are a force that needs to be reckoned with, and they're not. My guess is that the sane majority of the Hispanic population feels the same way about these fanatic Mexican groups.

    when i was in the public eye; quite often. when brought up in public; most white officials denounce the kkk.
    i still think they should patrol the border though.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    onelongsong wrote:
    when i was in the public eye; quite often. when brought up in public; most white officials denounce the kkk.
    i still think they should patrol the border though.

    most? wow. how mighty big of them to do so. :rolleyes:
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  • miller8966
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    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    That's too bad to hear. Your enthusiasm about only thinking of yourself saddens me.

    I don't know why you were only taught English in school. It should be English and at least 2 other languages like many European countries. I don't see a 2+2=4 equation that since you only speak English then the job market discriminates against you. Multi-lingualism means a person can speak to more people. Why would someone want to hire you as opposed to someone that can speak many languages if the position calls for a mulit-lingual person? If only this country embraced multi-lingualism . . . that would be something good! I would pay for increased taxes if it meant that the next generation was thinking more globally and less selfishly.

    I have no problem learning another language. I have a problem when i cant communicate with someone in retail because they can barely speak english.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    hippiemom wrote:
    No chance for amnesty? My best friend is from Panama! My first boyfriend in junior high was Puerto Rican! I speak a little Spanish! Just tossing it out there, can't hurt, right?

    I could never hurt a fellow PJ fan. I'll make sure your all of the list, except for GutYouLikeaBarroomWhore. That kid is way to twisted in the head.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    americans amuse me when they get their noses out of joint about something. shit could you people be any whiter?

    how many words within the english language come from another language you reckon? every day we as english speakers use foreign language words.
    surely there's more to be concerned about than making english the official language of whitey land.
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